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Post by globe on Jul 23, 2013 2:34:52 GMT -5
I hadn't read anyone who I thought meant it seriously. Then again I haven't read all 21 pages as that would be really boring. Regardless, while I think Liam's behaviour is inexcusable I don't necessarily think it means he's a terrible person. He's simply a poor example of a human being, who was simply fortunate enough to be born with a decent voice and a talented brother. Other than that, he's dog shit. How the fuck do you know what kind of human being Liam is? Believe it or not, just because you are or have been a fan of the bands he's been in, doesn't mean you personally know him. Are you Jeremy Kyle? Get a fucking grip eh. Liam is clearly a bit of an arse when it comes to women, there are millions of guys like that all around the world.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jul 23, 2013 2:49:40 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to say it, I've now completely lost respect for Liam. I've always stuck up for Beady Eye and Liam's voice etc but after this?
It triggered as soon as he started becoming all angry and defensive about the album flopping, and then that god awful performance at TITP (and I've always defended his live voice, I thought it was great all through Oasis all the way up to 2009 and even all of the Beady Eye gigs up until TITP, which just god awful) and now he's gone and fucked up his marriage? He's lost everything he had, including respect from a lot of fans, including me. I'll continue to listen to the music, if its any good and if he bothers to make more (which he shouldn't) but I'm not going to see Beady Eye live again. I don't even think Oasis should reform, vocally he doesn't stand a chance. And none of this vocal chords shite, that would have no effect.
Anyway this is MY opinion so I'd rather steer clear of any arguments.
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Post by thetruth on Jul 23, 2013 3:30:04 GMT -5
For god sake, is that story really that scandalous ?
Has he made a child with a teenager ? A prostitute ? No. Was it a one night stand with a prostitute in a bar ? No.
He had a rather long affair with a woman his own age. He's just stupid to have a kid, but other than that, he's just a married man with an affair, simple as that, like millions of man, and about every rockstars
Does it change his music ?no. Does it affect his music in any way ? No.
Is it creepy ?only if you.re very sensitiv, to me it's a shocking by any means.
As for his mariage, you don't know anything about it, Nicole looks like a nice lady, she's been happy with him for 13 years, they were a great familly, it doesn't take it all that back, it doesn't make Liam a bad father to his sons suddenly. We don't know anything about his marriage, he had a long affair, maybe he had feelings for Liza, maybe he wasn't hapy with Nicole anymore, maybe she wasn't happy either. Maybe they'll work it out, I hope so.
But in the end, niether of you knows Liam, it doesn't change what he has to offer, his music.
Personnal matters of a rockstar don't change the music, it's two different things. And on the million scandals in wich rockstar have been involved since ever, this scandal isn't very shocking, it's really just is Nicole and. liam's buiseness.
And I would add that durig the time Noel was cheating on Meg with Sarah, some of you could have been shocked by it, when in the end, it was just a guy getting out of a bad marriage.It's very easy to look like the devil in tabloids. I' m sure Liam never been faithfull to a womanin his life, does it change his music ? Does it change the fact that he's been good to Nicole and is kids for 13 years ? I don't think so, life isn't that easy, things aren't black and white.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 23, 2013 3:32:52 GMT -5
Despite all the disgraceful things Liam has done, you still don't think he's a terrible person? Explains why you turned out the way you are. I challenge you to tell me one redeeming quality about Liam. Even when he was destroying Oasis with his crap voice, crap songs and obnoxious behaviour, he always had 'good family man' to fall back on. He's fucked that off too now. He's simply a poor example of a human being, who was simply fortunate enough to be born with a decent voice and a talented brother. Other than that, he's dog shit. Tom is going to come back with "but he is good to fans." In fact that is even more true now than ever. Seems if you are a female fans he may even do you the honour of screwing you...and if you are male perhaps he'll do your girlfriend for you. Its a very high horse you sit on GD. I hope you never fall off it. Age has little to do with it Ltram, there are some very grown up people who have affairs. Its just easy to say that. I know plenty of people who have made big mistakes and yeah they are decent people.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 4:17:05 GMT -5
Tom is going to come back with "but he is good to fans." In fact that is even more true now than ever. Seems if you are a female fans he may even do you the honour of screwing you...and if you are male perhaps he'll do your girlfriend for you. Its a very high horse you sit on GD. I hope you never fall off it. Age has little to do with it Ltram, there are some very grown up people who have affairs. Its just easy to say that. I know plenty of people who have made big mistakes and yeah they are decent people. she will never fall off her horse and if she did im sure Spaneli would catch her!!
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Post by andymorris on Jul 23, 2013 5:14:25 GMT -5
Does it change his music ?no. Does it affect his music in any way ? No. Well kinda, just read all the lyrics of his songs from BE. they're all about trust, love made to last, and soul mates. I mean...
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Post by oneeye on Jul 23, 2013 5:23:03 GMT -5
Just like the 90's this
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Post by Pat Butcher on Jul 23, 2013 5:27:47 GMT -5
Liam is a classless, selfish, self-centered neandrathol. But sure we've known this nearly 2 decades now.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 23, 2013 5:48:46 GMT -5
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Post by WirralRiddler on Jul 23, 2013 5:58:45 GMT -5
Some right knobs on this forum, so Liam has had an affair, big deal. Its his problem to sort out with his wife and his life at the end of the day.
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Post by WirralRiddler on Jul 23, 2013 6:11:43 GMT -5
Liam is a classless, selfish, self-centered neandrathol. But sure we've known this nearly 2 decades now. Says the twat trolling an internet forum. Why are you even on here you fucking sad prick?
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Post by Pat Butcher on Jul 23, 2013 6:40:14 GMT -5
Liam is a classless, selfish, self-centered neandrathol. But sure we've known this nearly 2 decades now. Says the twat trolling an internet forum. Why are you even on here you fucking sad prick? Passes the time between shooting scenes
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Post by thetruth on Jul 23, 2013 7:28:41 GMT -5
Does it change his music ?no. Does it affect his music in any way ? No. Well kinda, just read all the lyrics of his songs from BE. they're all about trust, love made to last, and soul mates. I mean... And ? You can't write song about love if you cheats on your wife ? First of all Liam wrote lyrics for the sake of it, I wouldn't read too much into them. second of all, you can write about anything, the lyrics of a song is supposed to reflect on you, the person who listen to it, not the person who wrote it. It's especially true with the Gallaghers, their lyrics are always very vague. then if you can't listen to a song about love because a rockstar cheated on is wife, then you're oversensitive and you shouldn't listen to rock n roll at all, since every rockstar on the planet has written love songs while cheating on their wives. did you know Noel was on drug when he wrote live forever, and he wrote a song about life, what a hypocrite, I will never listen to that song again !!!!!
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Post by thomas09 on Jul 23, 2013 7:39:24 GMT -5
Liam is a classless, selfish, self-centered neandrathol. But sure we've known this nearly 2 decades now. How you could ever say that about anyone after posting this is beyond me: Anyone who would post something like that is an absolute scumbag. Think it's good that 96 innocent people lost their lives that day??
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Post by andymorris on Jul 23, 2013 7:56:16 GMT -5
Well kinda, just read all the lyrics of his songs from BE. they're all about trust, love made to last, and soul mates. I mean... And ? You can't write song about love if you cheats on your wife ? First of all Liam wrote lyrics for the sake of it, I wouldn't read too much into them. second of all, you can write about anything, the lyrics of a song is supposed to reflect on you, the person who listen to it, not the person who wrote it. It's especially true with the Gallaghers, their lyrics are always very vague. then if you can't listen to a song about love because a rockstar cheated on is wife, then you're oversensitive and you shouldn't listen to rock n roll at all, since every rockstar on the planet has written love songs while cheating on their wives. did you know Noel was on drug when he wrote live forever, and he wrote a song about life, what a hypocrite, I will never listen to that song again !!!!! You're kinda very stupid. Lyrics reflects on the listener as much as they reflect on the writer. especially Liam's songs. Coz Liam is a monkey, he struggles with words, so his lyrics are as direct as they seem, they are VERY important, even more so than Noel's, which can be vague or meaningless. Then Oasis has always been about being true and keeping it real. It was their statement, above everything else. Even above the music. Seems like Liam forgot about that the last few years, playing the family man and stuff, cheating on the side. It's not being oversensitive, i'll still listen to the records, but that's truly shocking for someone saying everywhere he's better than you and everything else. Not that it keeps me up all night or anything. He's lost a lot of credibility, that's it. PS : drugs open the mind on what life is... that's what rock n roll is all about.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 23, 2013 7:58:23 GMT -5
So Pat Butcher mocks hillsborough and then calls someone classless. Wow.
Liam certainly won't lose many if any of the people who idolise him through this. So as long as the followers of this legendary man are still here, he will still be here.
Just remember that Pat, you being here is just a reminder of how popular this man still is.
Twat
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Post by thetruth on Jul 23, 2013 8:10:28 GMT -5
You're kinda very stupid. Lyrics reflects on the listener as much as they reflect on the writer. especially Liam's songs. Coz Liam is a monkey, he struggles with words, so his lyrics are as direct as they seem, they are VERY important, even more so than Noel's, which can be vague or meaningless. Then Oasis has always been about being true and keeping it real. It was their statement, above everything else. Even above the music. Seems like Liam forgot about that the last few years, playing the family man and stuff, cheating on the side. It's not being oversensitive, i'll still listen to the records, but that's truly shocking for someone saying everywhere he's better than you and everything else. Not that it keeps me up all night or anything. He's lost a lot of credibility, that's it. PS : drugs open the mind on what life is... that's what rock n roll is all about. My god. Liam lost credibily because he cheated on his wife ? who is stupid here? is this actually a shock for you ? You really thought Liam was faithfull to Nicole ? and I ask it again, how do you listen to love songs since almost every rockstars have cheated on their wives ? if you really did think Liam Gallagher was a faithfull husband, you live in a dream world, and I won't even comment your last sentence, so ludicrous.
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Post by fluff123 on Jul 23, 2013 8:36:09 GMT -5
Yawn... cannot believe this thread is still going. Come on Mods... seriously, this must be bound for the playpen now.
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Post by Corky Ianucci on Jul 23, 2013 10:17:07 GMT -5
this thread is fucking awesome...
God bless.
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Post by mytwocents on Jul 23, 2013 11:36:49 GMT -5
If Oasis were still touring this would be the perfect time for a "Second night in a shithole" kimd of gig.
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Post by Generation Terrorist on Jul 23, 2013 11:50:37 GMT -5
Coming from a family that was torn apart by cheating and adultery, I think he's a prick.
I understand people standing by him because they're Oasis fans, but come on, having an affair, and a child? Indefensible really.
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Post by LSF on Jul 23, 2013 12:13:54 GMT -5
It might have been rock n roll in the 90's, but it's not rock n roll for a 40 year old to cheat on his wife.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 12:27:43 GMT -5
A shitty thing to do to his family but that's their private business and no-one else's.
Unfortunately he's in danger of being seen as an ageing lothario rock star à la Rod Stewart.
I don't think anyone wants that.
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Post by Generation Terrorist on Jul 23, 2013 12:34:44 GMT -5
A shitty thing to do to his family but that's their private business and no-one else's. Unfortunately he's in danger of being seen as an ageing lothario rock star à la Rod Stewart. I don't think anyone wants that. Do ya think Rod Stewart is sexy though?
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Post by daysoasis on Jul 23, 2013 13:24:38 GMT -5
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone -John 8:7-
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