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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 9, 2013 22:11:45 GMT -5
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 9, 2013 22:12:27 GMT -5
Been waiting for this. Very pleased.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 10, 2013 15:55:22 GMT -5
Don't blame him not playing a lot of Beady Eye songs.
Most of them, even the best ones, are pretty boring and a bit too repetitive to make lively on an acoustic guitar.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 10, 2013 16:45:32 GMT -5
For example, If 'The Roller' had been released under the Oasis bracket he would've done a cover and tutorial of it by now. He's one of 'those' people. It's a bit sad really because he has done covers/tutorials of pretty much all the LAG tunes under the Oasis bracket and we all now there's some Beady Eye songs better than most of them.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 10, 2013 17:04:13 GMT -5
He's just more into Noel than Liam... I want to thank him however,everything I've learned at a guitar is because him
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Post by icebreath on Jul 10, 2013 17:12:15 GMT -5
He's just more into Noel than Liam... I want to thank him however,everything I've learned at a guitar is because him I've learned many Oasis songs from him as well but it doesn't change the fact that he is prejudiced towards Beady Eye.
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Post by Bellboy on Jul 10, 2013 17:27:35 GMT -5
The guy's a legend...He seems really overly Australlian with his singing in this 1 though!
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Post by gdforever on Jul 10, 2013 17:28:59 GMT -5
He's just more into Noel than Liam... I want to thank him however,everything I've learned at a guitar is because him I've learned many Oasis songs from him as well but it doesn't change the fact that he is prejudiced towards Beady Eye. That's not fair to say he prejudges LAG. He seems like he gives them a fair listen. He didn't like anything on DGSS but kept his ears open for the bsides and covered WOMR as soon as that caught his ear. And it seems that he is continuing to give them a listen even though he isn't a big fan of their songwriting generally.
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Post by frjdoasis on Jul 10, 2013 18:59:13 GMT -5
This guy is great, but I disagree on this album being "a lot better than the first album" and "songs have improved". I might be alone on this, but I still think DGSS was better.
BTW the second chord is wrong. It should be C5 (with capo on 4th fret of course), but it's no big deal, nice cover.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 10, 2013 19:26:14 GMT -5
I've learned many Oasis songs from him as well but it doesn't change the fact that he is prejudiced towards Beady Eye. That's not fair to say he prejudges LAG. He seems like he gives them a fair listen. He didn't like anything on DGSS but kept his ears open for the bsides and covered WOMR as soon as that caught his ear. And it seems that he is continuing to give them a listen even though he isn't a big fan of their songwriting generally. That would make him one of the fairest prejudice people out there
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Post by icebreath on Jul 11, 2013 2:56:10 GMT -5
I've learned many Oasis songs from him as well but it doesn't change the fact that he is prejudiced towards Beady Eye. That's not fair to say he prejudges LAG. He seems like he gives them a fair listen. He didn't like anything on DGSS but kept his ears open for the bsides and covered WOMR as soon as that caught his ear. And it seems that he is continuing to give them a listen even though he isn't a big fan of their songwriting generally. Yet he has covered many LAG tunes only because of the Oasis name beneath them. He covered "The Good Rebel" and we know how repetitive is(that was for Spaneli's argument about BE's tunes repetitiveness). Kill For A Dream, In The Bubble With A Bullet, The Morning Son, Millionaire, The Roller and For Anyone. All of them sound pretty decent on acoustic but he didn't gave them a chance. I agree with MacaRonic, that if these tunes have the Oasis name with them he would covered all of them. That's how my "prejudice" comment came. Yes, he listened DGSS but in his mind are always Beady Eye's tunes without the greatness of Noel Gallagher. He's just not objective on that matter. Don't get me wrong, Peter was the one that made me learn many Oasis songs but on this matter i disagree with him.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 11, 2013 9:08:42 GMT -5
That's not fair to say he prejudges LAG. He seems like he gives them a fair listen. He didn't like anything on DGSS but kept his ears open for the bsides and covered WOMR as soon as that caught his ear. And it seems that he is continuing to give them a listen even though he isn't a big fan of their songwriting generally. Yet he has covered many LAG tunes only because of the Oasis name beneath them. He covered "The Good Rebel" and we know how repetitive is(that was for Spaneli's argument about BE's tunes repetitiveness). Kill For A Dream, In The Bubble With A Bullet, The Morning Son, Millionaire, The Roller and For Anyone. All of them sound pretty decent on acoustic but he didn't gave them a chance. I agree with MacaRonic, that if these tunes have the Oasis name with them he would covered all of them. That's how my "prejudice" comment came. Yes, he listened DGSS but in his mind are always Beady Eye's tunes without the greatness of Noel Gallagher. He's just not objective on that matter. Don't get me wrong, Peter was the one that made me learn many Oasis songs but on this matter i disagree with him. I agree. Pete took a side when the split happened and immediately formed an opinion. He loves and seems to cover nearly every song Noel puts out, but becomes overly critical with every non-Oasis LAG tune. It seems almost like an fantasy that Noel is above critique, he is God and everything he touches is magically transformed into beauty. Noel cannot fail. Look at this video, re-watching it, I wonder if Peter likes the song, or is he just doing it to please his subs? He seems to have these reluctant expressions like "Why on Earth am I doing this?" almost as if covering Beady Eye is a death sentence, a taboo. It is like aneternal battle within. He likes the song, but he really doesn't want to admit it and makes up for playing this one song by saying that there is nothing else on the album worth doing. And yet when he is playing it, he gets into the music the way he does on any other song he covers. Peter probably doesn't even realize he does this, it happens subconsciously. He's probably not to fond of Liam and blames him for Oasis splitting, and that shows through a biased view against the music. Peter isn't the only one I have seen to do this, but at least he gives a listen, I know people that refuse to.
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Post by thomas09 on Jul 11, 2013 9:20:43 GMT -5
not a good cover, he should be playing D9 as the second chord, few other mistakes too
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Post by frjdoasis on Jul 11, 2013 9:56:11 GMT -5
not a good cover, he should be playing D9 as the second chord, few other mistakes too C5*
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 11, 2013 10:53:12 GMT -5
fuck me, this is fucking rubbish how can you listen/WATCH(!) this guy?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 11:08:10 GMT -5
Aye, that wasn't the best. Probably better than I could do though
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Post by thomas09 on Jul 11, 2013 11:09:31 GMT -5
not a good cover, he should be playing D9 as the second chord, few other mistakes too C5* C5? Hmmm are you playing with the capo on the 4th fret? If you do have the capo on the 4th fret you should be playing D9: C D9 G Em C D9 G G Or are you talking about another mistake he made?
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Post by thomas09 on Jul 11, 2013 11:10:26 GMT -5
Aye, that wasn't the best. Probably better than I could do though Jesus don't be so hard on yourself
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 11:12:24 GMT -5
Aye, that wasn't the best. Probably better than I could do though Jesus don't be so hard on yourself hahaha
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Post by ricardogce on Jul 11, 2013 11:25:45 GMT -5
His voice is not the best for Oasis' tunes, but he's an amazing player, and his tutorials are second to none. Which is why I put up with his obvious Noel-bias
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Post by frjdoasis on Jul 11, 2013 11:39:09 GMT -5
C5? Hmmm are you playing with the capo on the 4th fret? If you do have the capo on the 4th fret you should be playing D9: C D9 G Em C D9 G G Or are you talking about another mistake he made? I mean this. I made this with Paint BTW ;D
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Post by spaneli on Jul 11, 2013 11:51:42 GMT -5
That's not fair to say he prejudges LAG. He seems like he gives them a fair listen. He didn't like anything on DGSS but kept his ears open for the bsides and covered WOMR as soon as that caught his ear. And it seems that he is continuing to give them a listen even though he isn't a big fan of their songwriting generally. Yet he has covered many LAG tunes only because of the Oasis name beneath them. He covered "The Good Rebel" and we know how repetitive is(that was for Spaneli's argument about BE's tunes repetitiveness). Kill For A Dream, In The Bubble With A Bullet, The Morning Son, Millionaire, The Roller and For Anyone. All of them sound pretty decent on acoustic but he didn't gave them a chance. I agree with MacaRonic, that if these tunes have the Oasis name with them he would covered all of them. That's how my "prejudice" comment came. Yes, he listened DGSS but in his mind are always Beady Eye's tunes without the greatness of Noel Gallagher. He's just not objective on that matter. Don't get me wrong, Peter was the one that made me learn many Oasis songs but on this matter i disagree with him. The Morning Son, For Anyone, The Roller, Millionaire, and Kill for A Dream have some of the most under developed and repetitive melodies of their songs. Though In a Bubble with A Bullet is pretty good to play on guitar, however, that's mostly because of the fill in it because in the end, three chords. And to be honest,even the LAG songs with Oasis, take Songbird, when Pete did the video even said he said at the time that it was dead simple and the only reason he was doing it was because so many people requested. And there are multiple videos even before the split where he comments that he doesn't find LAG's melodies as interesting as Noel's, which I don't think is a shock. My point is that they don't have many Record Machine, STC, or EOTR songs for a guitarists to really play around with and develop their own sound with or put their own spin on. The chords are what they are, repeating over and over again. Beady Eye songs are no where near as developed and structured melodically as those songs. They're great melodies that transfer to any instrument whether you're playing it on guitar or piano or anything else. Which is the true test of a melody. The Good Rebel is one of most lyrically repetitive songs Noel has ever done, however, that melody is still more developed than most of Beady Eye's songs (that's not to say quality wise, as a song, it's better than most of Beady Eye's tracks). Beady Eye has some good songs, but very few of them are terribly interesting to play on guitar, and even less interesting on piano. I'm actually surprised he chose Start Anew because it's one of their more repetitive songs melodically and lyrically.
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Post by thomas09 on Jul 11, 2013 11:54:18 GMT -5
C5? Hmmm are you playing with the capo on the 4th fret? If you do have the capo on the 4th fret you should be playing D9: C D9 G Em C D9 G G Or are you talking about another mistake he made? I mean this. I made this with Paint BTW ;D Nice job If you check this link though, that's what D9 is (listed as "D9.."): www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/chords/guitar-chords-d06.png
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Post by frjdoasis on Jul 11, 2013 12:05:20 GMT -5
Nice one. I'd like to have the tab of Andy's guitar on Second Bite of The Apple as in here
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Post by thomas09 on Jul 12, 2013 11:05:57 GMT -5
Nice one. I'd like to have the tab of Andy's guitar on Second Bite of The Apple as in here I'll give it a go, I figured the tab for start anew. It wasn't too difficult
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