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Post by jakob61907 on Jul 2, 2013 21:37:46 GMT -5
Perhaps this may of been brought up but i can't find it..
I've been watching NGHFB live today at Isle of Wight Festival and also the Casino Paris gig and
Noel clearly doesnt wear the in ear things that you see nearly every artist wear nowadays.
Liam said recently that the Glasto gig in 2004 was the first time he's worn them and he's worn them ever since.
How come Liam needs to wear them and so many artists do but Noel doesn't at all??
Here are two examples...
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 3, 2013 2:46:19 GMT -5
He doesn't wear them because they wouldn't improve his whiney vocals.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 3, 2013 2:50:30 GMT -5
So what are you doing here? go to the Beady eye section
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 3, 2013 4:22:58 GMT -5
He doesn't wear them because they wouldn't improve his whiney vocals. They obviously have no effect on the vocals alright. All you have to do is listen to Liam singing at a full band gig to realise how ineffective they are at improving someone's vocals. Maybe Noel is afraid he'll sound as crap as his little brother does if he wears them?  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 3, 2013 4:27:04 GMT -5
Don't start another war,let the troll alone  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 7:51:11 GMT -5
I thought Liam said he stopped wearing them at the start of the first Beady Eye gigs?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 7:53:10 GMT -5
He doesn't wear them because they wouldn't improve his whiney vocals. They obviously have no effect on the vocals alright. All you have to do is listen to Liam singing at a full band gig to realise how ineffective they are at improving someone's vocals. Maybe Noel is afraid he'll sound as crap as his little brother does if he wears them? No need...  |
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Post by LlAM on Jul 3, 2013 8:16:55 GMT -5
Perhaps this may of been brought up but i can't find it.. I've been watching NGHFB live today at Isle of Wight Festival and also the Casino Paris gig and Noel clearly doesnt wear the in ear things that you see nearly every artist wear nowadays. Liam said recently that the Glasto gig in 2004 was the first time he's worn them and he's worn them ever since. How come Liam needs to wear them and so many artists do but Noel doesn't at all?? Here are two examples... Perhaps because he doesn't run around the stage? Some people find in-ears annoying as hell and if your already stuck in front of a fleet of monitors there's really no point using them. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 3, 2013 8:36:20 GMT -5
They obviously have no effect on the vocals alright. All you have to do is listen to Liam singing at a full band gig to realise how ineffective they are at improving someone's vocals. Maybe Noel is afraid he'll sound as crap as his little brother does if he wears them? No need... I agree. I went too far. I was tired and cranky and too easily susceptible to what was an obvious troll. |
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Post by ruchin on Jul 3, 2013 8:56:13 GMT -5
Maybe that's why he got tinnitus!!  |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jul 3, 2013 10:07:15 GMT -5
They obviously have no effect on the vocals alright. All you have to do is listen to Liam singing at a full band gig to realise how ineffective they are at improving someone's vocals. Maybe Noel is afraid he'll sound as crap as his little brother does if he wears them? No need... How come you never said no need to matchey post? |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 4, 2013 14:31:23 GMT -5
I always wondered: What do those ear things actually do? #ignorance.
Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 3:40:46 GMT -5
I always wondered: What do those ear things actually do? #ignorance. Cheers. you will see that the singers are behind the main speakers typically, and these speakers are aimed out at the audience so they can’t hear what the audience hears. In addition, especially in huge venues, sound bounces back to the stage but is slightly delayed, making it confusing to the singer and the band. Plus, the amplified instruments may make it hard to hear your own voice, or you may have other reasons to hear just your own voice or to hear the music directly. It used to be that there would be a separate set of smaller speakers turned back towards the performer (stage monitors) so they could hear what sounds they are making at the time they are making them. Some bands still use these, but there are some long-standing problems with them. Nowadays, many performers use "personal monitors" in the form of ear pieces. The ear piece can both feed the sound back in to the singer so he/she can hear what they and the band are doing as well as provide cues for special effects so common in high tech performances. This in-ear wireless monitor is particularly useful in that performers can also dance or move around the stage a great deal, the sound from a stage monitor would change, depending on where the performer is but the in-ear form remains constant. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jul 7, 2013 14:29:21 GMT -5
He doesn't wear them because they wouldn't improve his whiney vocals. was that necessary? hate the Noel OR Beady Eye bullshit! and I say this while loving Beady Eye to death |
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Post by BasementGuitarist on Jul 7, 2013 17:30:29 GMT -5
In-ear monitors vs. stage speaker monitors are just a personal preference of the performer. The one thing that the in-ear monitors offer that the speakers do not is a certain amount of protection for your ears. It's like wearing ear plugs and having the sound of the performance at a controlled, tolerable level pumped through them.
They're also extremely useful if a song that your band is performing is timed to a click track, which is essentially a metronome to keep everyone on time in a particular song. The click track is often used if there are backing tracks that are played digitally so that timing isn't thrown off. In-ear monitors aren't essential for every person in a band (i.e. sometimes only a drummer will need the in-ears for a click track) but it helps to keep everyone on the same page.
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Post by catsnake on Jul 8, 2013 15:30:37 GMT -5
In-ear monitors vs. stage speaker monitors are just a personal preference of the performer. The one thing that the in-ear monitors offer that the speakers do not is a certain amount of protection for your ears. It's like wearing ear plugs and having the sound of the performance at a controlled, tolerable level pumped through them. They're also extremely useful if a song that your band is performing is timed to a click track, which is essentially a metronome to keep everyone on time in a particular song. The click track is often used if there are backing tracks that are played digitally so that timing isn't thrown off. In-ear monitors aren't essential for every person in a band (i.e. sometimes only a drummer will need the in-ears for a click track) but it helps to keep everyone on the same page. Has anyone ever gigged with in ear monitors? I thought about getting some a few years back but never bothered. |
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Post by drummert5 on Jul 28, 2013 19:25:03 GMT -5
Started gigging with them in March and will never look back. They're pricey (well, to me, not to NG) at ~$2k for a complete setup, but worth every penny. You can hear every instrument/vocal clearly, you can have a monitor mix that suits you without worrying about the rest of the band, you don't have to worry about stage volume affecting front of house, and if you're willing to risk being out in the cold if they fail, you can do away with monitor wedges on stage so you're that much closer to the audience.
I know there are some performers who won't go near them, and I totally get some of the reasons why (at least at first it feels like you're not properly playing, you don't get that "gig" feeling with your whole body shaking from the bass and ears ringing by the end of the night), but if you can use them for a few gigs and get past that... it's magical.
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Post by nathaniel5672 on Jul 30, 2013 14:42:24 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones don't use them either. They're reason is that they have used floor monitors for their whole career and it's what they're used to (maybe the same for Noel). Apparently they have tones though, 120 or something like that!
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Post by marqueemoon on Aug 1, 2013 4:52:43 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones don't use them either. They're reason is that they have used floor monitors for their whole career and it's what they're used to (maybe the same for Noel). Apparently they have tones though, 120 or something like that! Really? Jagger still moves around a lot on stage, I'm surprised he doesn't use them. |
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Post by nathaniel5672 on Aug 1, 2013 6:18:14 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones don't use them either. They're reason is that they have used floor monitors for their whole career and it's what they're used to (maybe the same for Noel). Apparently they have tones though, 120 or something like that! Really? Jagger still moves around a lot on stage, I'm surprised he doesn't use them. Apparently so. That's why they have so many. |
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Post by drummert5 on Aug 15, 2013 23:23:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you got that... Jagger has used them since '94. The rest of them don't, though, and you're right, it's monitor city all around the stage.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 21, 2014 10:01:34 GMT -5
I was wondering about the same thing. He doesn't use ear monitors or any ear plugs at all through his whole career. And Oasis was loud as fuck back in the day. I'm curious how is his hearing at the moment.
I play in the pretty loud rock band as well and never wear ear plugs neither but startin' to think maybe i should cause when you look around most of artists do that. Only Noel seems to be not givin' a fuck about the whole thing. I know Andy Bell is deaf in one ear from Alan White's crash though.
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Post by Banksy on May 22, 2014 17:00:15 GMT -5
I always wondered: What do those ear things actually do? #ignorance. Cheers. you will see that the singers are behind the main speakers typically, and these speakers are aimed out at the audience so they can’t hear what the audience hears. In addition, especially in huge venues, sound bounces back to the stage but is slightly delayed, making it confusing to the singer and the band. Plus, the amplified instruments may make it hard to hear your own voice, or you may have other reasons to hear just your own voice or to hear the music directly. It used to be that there would be a separate set of smaller speakers turned back towards the performer (stage monitors) so they could hear what sounds they are making at the time they are making them. Some bands still use these, but there are some long-standing problems with them. Nowadays, many performers use "personal monitors" in the form of ear pieces. The ear piece can both feed the sound back in to the singer so he/she can hear what they and the band are doing as well as provide cues for special effects so common in high tech performances. This in-ear wireless monitor is particularly useful in that performers can also dance or move around the stage a great deal, the sound from a stage monitor would change, depending on where the performer is but the in-ear form remains constant. Great post |
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Post by Heebeejeebies on May 27, 2014 11:57:00 GMT -5
I was wondering about the same thing. He doesn't use ear monitors or any ear plugs at all through his whole career. And Oasis was loud as fuck back in the day. I'm curious how is his hearing at the moment. I play in the pretty loud rock band as well and never wear ear plugs neither but startin' to think maybe i should cause when you look around most of artists do that. Only Noel seems to be not givin' a fuck about the whole thing. I know Andy Bell is deaf in one ear from Alan White's crash though. Noel has said he has tinnitus. can't find the interview (or it might have been on a radio programme), but he said he had a head scan to find out what the ringing in his ears was, but it turned out to be simple hearing damage. So get yourself some earplugs! Edit: www.nme.com/news/noel-gallagher/68434 |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 27, 2014 14:13:47 GMT -5
I was wondering about the same thing. He doesn't use ear monitors or any ear plugs at all through his whole career. And Oasis was loud as fuck back in the day. I'm curious how is his hearing at the moment. I play in the pretty loud rock band as well and never wear ear plugs neither but startin' to think maybe i should cause when you look around most of artists do that. Only Noel seems to be not givin' a fuck about the whole thing. I know Andy Bell is deaf in one ear from Alan White's crash though. Noel has said he has tinnitus. can't find the interview (or it might have been on a radio programme), but he said he had a head scan to find out what the ringing in his ears was, but it turned out to be simple hearing damage. So get yourself some earplugs! Edit: www.nme.com/news/noel-gallagher/68434Is tinnitus just ringing in ears or hearing loss as well ? |
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