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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 12:34:31 GMT -5
In all seriousness, Giants not only has a plethora of fantastic songs, but it's the most interesting album in terms of its production. It never quite reaches the highs of the 'holy trinity' with its darker underlying feel, but the quality of songs like 'Gas Panic!', 'Roll It Over', 'Where Did It All Go Wrong?' etc. cannot be overlooked. Even the so-called 'duds' I find enjoyable to listen to, with the exception of 'I Can See A Liar'. PUT YER MONEH WHEYO MOUTH IS YO MAMA SEZ THAT YOU WUZ REEEEAL Absolutely colossal song. |
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Post by World71R on Oct 10, 2015 14:02:37 GMT -5
In all seriousness, Giants not only has a plethora of fantastic songs, but it's the most interesting album in terms of its production. It never quite reaches the highs of the 'holy trinity' with its darker underlying feel, but the quality of songs like 'Gas Panic!', 'Roll It Over', 'Where Did It All Go Wrong?' etc. cannot be overlooked. Even the so-called 'duds' I find enjoyable to listen to, with the exception of 'I Can See A Liar'. I agree, but I must say that I Can See a Liar is an alright song, but just suffers from terrible placement on the album, and that "one awful line in the chorus". Other than that, all of the songs are alright as is. Little James is a decent first-go-of-it for Liam, Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is is where the most experimentation happens imo, and Sunday Morning Call is just a tad bit bloated, but still an okay song. If anything, it's the archetypal song from this era, considering it almost directly talks about the hangover after BHN. |
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Post by mossy on Oct 10, 2015 14:38:17 GMT -5
I really hate Little James. Such a dud, should've been a b-side.
And as for saying it's a good first effort, fair does, but most artists don't release their firsts efforts! Listen to Noel's 80s demo tape. His first released effort was Supersonic!!
Replace Shittle James with Let's All Make Believe and the album gets an extra star immediately.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 10, 2015 16:01:09 GMT -5
BHN MG DM HFB CY DOYS SOTSOG DBTT BE HC DGSS (if I posted this sequence of letters on any other forum nobody would have any idea what I was talking about  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 16:31:01 GMT -5
I really hate Little James. Such a dud, should've been a b-side. And as for saying it's a good first effort, fair does, but most artists don't release their firsts efforts! Listen to Noel's 80s demo tape. His first released effort was Supersonic!! Replace Shittle James with Let's All Make Believe and the album gets an extra star immediately. The definitive tracklist is, of course, this: 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. Go Let it Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Where Did it All Go Wrong? 5. Gas Panic! 6. Full On (Liam Vox) 7. Sunday Morning Call 8. Let's All Make Believe 9. One Way Road 10. Roll it Over As for the albums... 1. Be Here Now 2. Definitely Maybe 3. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 4. Chasing Yesterday 5. Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds 6. Dig Out Your Soul 7. Standing on the Shoulders of Giants 8. Don't Believe the Truth 9. BE 10. Heathen Chemisty 11. Different Gear, Still Speeding One day I will post all the albums ideal tracklists and rank them...something for you to look forward to. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 10, 2015 16:51:13 GMT -5
^
Not really.
Good ranking though.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 10, 2015 16:57:35 GMT -5
1. Fuckin' in the Bushes
2. Go Let It Out
3. Who Feels Love?
4. Full On
5. Little James
6. Gas Panic!
7. Where Did It All Go Wrong?
8. Let's All Make Believe
9. I Can See a Liar
10. Roll It Over
Not a bad tracklist right there.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 10, 2015 16:59:28 GMT -5
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You took out Sunday Morning Call but left in Little James, which makes it no improvement.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:21:18 GMT -5
I genuinely can't decide between my ideal SOTSOG and DOYS...what do you guys think?
SOTSOG:
1. Fuckin' in the Bushes
2. Go Let it Out
3. Who Feels Love?
4. Where Did it All Go Wrong?
5. Gas Panic!
6. Full On (Liam Vox)
7. Sunday Morning Call
8. Let's All Make Believe
9. One Way Road
10. Roll it Over
DOYS:
1. Bag it Up
2. The Turning
3. Waiting for the Rapture
4. The Shock of the Lightning
5. I'm Outta Time
6. (I Wanna Live in a Dream In My) Record Machine (Liam Vox)
7. Falling Down
8. To Be Where There's Life
9. Come On Outside (Liam Vox)
10. Boy With the Blues
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Post by World71R on Oct 10, 2015 19:51:55 GMT -5
I really hate Little James. Such a dud, should've been a b-side. And as for saying it's a good first effort, fair does, but most artists don't release their firsts efforts! Listen to Noel's 80s demo tape. His first released effort was Supersonic!! Replace Shittle James with Let's All Make Believe and the album gets an extra star immediately. Despite what I said above, defending LJ a bit, I do agree that Let's All Make Believe had a rightful place on the album, and it's a shame that it didn't make it on, because the flow of the album suggests that Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is would go into that song, and then into Gas Panic!, but it abruptly goes into LJ, a heartfelt ballad that kills the intensity that PYMWYMI built, and GP would've carried. With that said, I'd have the track listing like this: 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. Go Let it Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. One Way Road 5. Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is 6. Let's All Make Believe 7. Gas Panic! 8. Where Did it All Go Wrong? 9. Sunday Morning Call (shortened; w/o the solo) 10. Roll it Over |
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Post by World71R on Oct 10, 2015 19:54:39 GMT -5
I genuinely can't decide between my ideal SOTSOG and DOYS...what do you guys think? SOTSOG: 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. Go Let it Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Where Did it All Go Wrong? 5. Gas Panic! 6. Full On (Liam Vox) 7. Sunday Morning Call 8. Let's All Make Believe 9. One Way Road 10. Roll it Over DOYS: 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. (I Wanna Live in a Dream In My) Record Machine (Liam Vox) 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where There's Life 9. Come On Outside (Liam Vox) 10. Boy With the Blues Take out Record Machine, and put in High Horse Lady, then have the Come on Outside that we ACTUALLY have, and not the fantasy Liam-sung version, then you have a good "ultimate DOYS". |
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 11, 2015 13:55:57 GMT -5
I'd rank BE about equal to DOYS, which is a good thing. If you were to look at best-possible DOYS vs best-possible BE, DOYS would win but it would still be comparable.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 11, 2015 14:03:49 GMT -5
I'd rank BE about equal to DOYS, which is a good thing. If you were to look at best-possible DOYS vs best-possible BE, DOYS would win but it would still be comparable. That is an extremely strange reasoning. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 14:22:31 GMT -5
1.Definitely Maybe
2.Morning glory
3.The Masterplan
4.Chasing yesterday
5.High Flying Birds
6.Dig Out Your Soul
7.Don't Believe The Truth
8.Be Here Now
9.BE
10.SOTSOG
11.Different Gear Still Speeding
12.Heathen Chemistry
My top 20/30 ish songs change regularly but that list is pretty much set now for me
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Post by dennizz on Oct 12, 2015 12:05:06 GMT -5
SOTSOG:
01 Fuckin' In The Bushes
02 Full On (liam)
03 Go Let It Out
04 Gas Panic!
05 Let's All Make Believe
06 Where Did It All Go Wrong ? (demo style)
07 I Can See A Liar
08 Who Feels Love?
09 Sunday Morning Call
10 Roll It Over
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 12, 2015 12:38:30 GMT -5
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I miss Who Feels Love
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Oct 12, 2015 13:27:25 GMT -5
1. Definitely Maybe2. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? 3. Be Here Now 4. Don't Believe The Truth 5. BE 6. Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants 7. Dig Out Your Soul 8. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 9. Different Gear, Still Speeding 10. Heathen Chemistry 2 and a half years on... 1. DM 2. WTSMG 3. BHN 4. DOYS 5. CY 6. DBTT 7. SOTSOG 8. BE 9. NGHFB 10. HC 11. DGSS |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 16, 2015 13:32:30 GMT -5
Simplified:
Oasis
NGHFB
BDI
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Post by World71R on Oct 16, 2015 15:44:51 GMT -5
1. WTSMG - The almighty greatness right here. Almost every song on the album is a classic in one way or another, and it's the band at their very finest. 2. DM - The second almighty greatness. There is a certain atmosphere of intensity and youth within it, and all of the songs are good-to-great. 3/4. TM/CY - One is a fantastic B-side compilation, and the other is the best Gallagher-related releases since the aforementioned B-side compilation. 5. BHN - Ridiculously grandiose and loud, but it's great. Yes, it's a little too long with some songs, and a little too loud, but you know what? You only get one of its kind every so often, so it's best just to sit back and listen to the madness unfold.  6. DOYS - This has the swagger and bravado of BHN, and continued the signs of improvement that DBTT brought. It's just a shame that the terrible twosome came along to ruin things, or else, this could've been a thing of beauty.
7 (tie). DBTT - This one has a place in my heart. I love the way this album flows, and how the filler sounds just as good as some of the good tracks in some ways. Despite saying I would make changes to the track listing, I really would not. It's a fun album all the way through, and it shows the band was back on track.
7 (tie). NGHFB - Sardy's production lets this album down a bit, but Noel starts to come into his own with this. Stop the Clocks is a poor closer, however, and I think A Simple Game of Genius or Let The Lord Shine a Light on Me would've served the closer spot better.9. SOTSOG - Such a dark and moody album, completely out of the band's realm. Despite what Noel has said about this one, it really is good, and was about a song, a second verse, some better vocal production, and stripping back from being a great way to come back from such a fall that the BHN era brought. 10. BE - Once again, another good album with dark and moodier atmospheres to some of the songs that were let down by certain decisions being made. Liam sounds good on this, and the songs are there, when you factor in the ones added on with the Deluxe Edition of the album. The World's Not Set in Stone, Back After the Break, and Off at the Next Exit all deserved places on the album over Face the Crowd, the first half of Don't Brother Me, and Shine a Light imo. 11. HC - Great singles, with a couple good-to-decent album tracks (Born on a Different Cloud, Hung in a Bad Place, Force of Nature), but poor production and track listing choice problems let this one down. Probably All in the Mind, She is Love, and Better Man are all some of Oasis's worst, and Shout it Out Loud, Thank You for the Good Times, and either Idler's Dream or You've Got the Heart of the Star would've replaced them well. 12. DGSS - This one starts out so well, but is so hit-and-miss when it gets going. The first three tracks feature some of the best tracks that this trio has put out since they started writing songs for Oasis, but it takes a dive for the next three, but Bring the Light and For Anyone are alright. From there, Kill for a Dream is about the only clunker, but when you also factor in the ridiculously retro production, and how the band really needed to come out swinging with something new and exciting, it earns this album the unfortunate place on this worst of the best list. Fixed. I've really been enjoying the tracks from DOYS a lot lately. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 18:30:53 GMT -5
1. Definitely Maybe
2. (What's The Story ?) Morning Glory
3. Be Here Now
4. Chasing Yesterday
5. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
6. Don't Believe The Truth
7. Standing On The Shoulder of Giants
8. Dig Out Your Soul
9. Heathen Chemistry
10.BE
11.Different Gear, Still Speeding
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Post by matt on Oct 16, 2015 19:52:10 GMT -5
I really hate Little James. Such a dud, should've been a b-side. And as for saying it's a good first effort, fair does, but most artists don't release their firsts efforts! Listen to Noel's 80s demo tape. His first released effort was Supersonic!! Replace Shittle James with Let's All Make Believe and the album gets an extra star immediately. The definitive tracklist is, of course, this: 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. Go Let it Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Where Did it All Go Wrong? 5. Gas Panic! 6. Full On (Liam Vox) 7. Sunday Morning Call 8. Let's All Make Believe 9. One Way Road 10. Roll it Over As for the albums... 1. Be Here Now 2. Definitely Maybe 3. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 4. Chasing Yesterday 5. Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds 6. Dig Out Your Soul 7. Standing on the Shoulders of Giants 8. Don't Believe the Truth 9. BE 10. Heathen Chemisty 11. Different Gear, Still Speeding One day I will post all the albums ideal tracklists and rank them...something for you to look forward to. Yes, the perfect track listing. I've always thought a Liam vocal on Full On would have been amazing. Also, the George Martin in me would just ever so slightly speed up One Way Road as it's a bit slow. |
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 16, 2015 21:25:12 GMT -5
I'd rank BE about equal to DOYS, which is a good thing. If you were to look at best-possible DOYS vs best-possible BE, DOYS would win but it would still be comparable. That is an extremely strange reasoning. Normal's never been my strong suit. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 17, 2015 7:04:25 GMT -5
Simplified: Oasis 1994-1996 Oasis 1997 NGHFB Oasis 2000 & 2005 Oasis 2008 Oasis 2002 BDI FIFY |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 17, 2015 9:40:04 GMT -5
1. Be Here Now
2. Definitely Maybe
3. What's The Story (Morning Glory)
4. Don't Believe The Truth
5. BE
6. Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
7. Different Gear Still Speeding
8. Dig Out Your Soul
9. Heathen Chemistry
10. Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds
This was my list then.
This is now.
1. Be Here Now
2. Definitely Maybe
3. What's The Story (Morning Glory)
4. Don't Believe The Truth
5. Dig Out Your Soul
6. BE
7. Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
8. Different Gear Still Speeding
9. Heathen Chemistry
10. Chasing Yesterday
11. Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds
And sure Chasing Yesterday is as a body of work better than a few of the ones above but the truth is I never listen to it. Except the right stuff.
And my SOTSOG tracklist.
1. Fuckin' in the Bushes
2. Go Let It Out
3. Who Feels Love?
4. Little James
5. Gas Panic!
6. Where Did It All Go Wrong?
7. Let's All Make Believe
8. I Can See a Liar
9. Roll It Over
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 17, 2015 10:29:04 GMT -5
Simplified: Oasis 1994-1996 Oasis 1997 NGHFB Oasis 2000 & 2005 Oasis 2008 Oasis 2002 BDI FIFY That was actually very clever, and spot on. Well in, matey. |
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