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Post by venoasis on Apr 29, 2013 1:46:35 GMT -5
Hello Girls...
Those drums! I love it, maybe as much as i love the drum solo on TSOTL. I like it, it's different, i can imagine a funny video. A bit too much horn for my taste. They should've empowered the chorus a little bit more. Anyway i like more Start Anew, but i don't think it's a bad single at all. Reminds me of that psychodelic Songbird Demo.
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Post by britishlove on Apr 29, 2013 1:54:01 GMT -5
I do like it, I just don't know if I prefer it to Innerspeaker or not...they're both quality albums though! It's a tough choice, I'm half way through a new listen of Lonersism right now. Nothing That Has Happened So Far Has Been Anything We Could Control might be my favorite song the band has recorded yet. I really like Apocolypse Dreams, Elephant (the base line is wicked fun) off of Lonerism And off of Innerspeaker I really like It is not meant to be, Lucidity and why won't you make up your mind.... But I like all the songs...so it's hard to pick! Ask me again tomorrow, and I'll probably pick 5 different songs...I like Nothing that has happened so far....it sounds like falling through a kaleidoscope.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 29, 2013 1:54:53 GMT -5
It's just 'meh' in my opinion. Liam says they needed to get out of the '60s rut' and Flick of the Finger seemed to do that. But this tune is just rooted in the 60s. When on earth will this band ever broaden their horizons and listen to something different, instead of rehasing 60s psychedlic work? Guys like Gem, Andy and Liam need to go away and listen to U2 or Radiohead. Fucking hell they can have a song with a 60's influence Matt. This does and yet like it or not sounds like nothing they've done before. Lol U2.....
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 29, 2013 2:08:27 GMT -5
Nothing That Has Happened So Far Has Been Anything We Could Control might be my favorite song the band has recorded yet. I really like Apocolypse Dreams, Elephant (the base line is wicked fun) off of Lonerism And off of Innerspeaker I really like It is not meant to be, Lucidity and why won't you make up your mind.... But I like all the songs...so it's hard to pick! Ask me again tomorrow, and I'll probably pick 5 different songs... I like Nothing that has happened so far....it sounds like falling through a kaleidoscope. Nice description!
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Apr 29, 2013 2:27:42 GMT -5
It's just 'meh' in my opinion. Liam says they needed to get out of the '60s rut' and Flick of the Finger seemed to do that. But this tune is just rooted in the 60s. When on earth will this band ever broaden their horizons and listen to something different, instead of rehasing 60s psychedlic work? Guys like Gem, Andy and Liam need to go away and listen to U2 or Radiohead. Guys like Gem, Andy and Liam need to go away and listen to U2 or Radiohead. Guys like Gem, Andy and Liam need to go away and listen to U2 or Radiohead. go away and listen to U2 or Radiohead. U2 or Radiohead U2 or Radiohead U2 or Radioheadwhat? no. No shit they need to expand their influences, but they'll never make it there. They are some good musicians, and have written a few decent songs but they just can't be that type of band. I'd much rather they go for modern influences, bands who are making the best records today. Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Titus Andronicus, Broken Social Scene. or in older music, The Flaming Lips's early-mid career material, or even fucking Ride's first two albums. I highly doubt they would make a good record coming off U2 and Radiohead, no offense to your opinion, this is only mine and I happen to disagree,
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Post by Teal on Apr 29, 2013 2:33:18 GMT -5
Is it bad I prefer the music clip from this to the new single?
Whatever influence this came from I approve 100%
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Apr 29, 2013 2:47:27 GMT -5
if i get a ricecorn for every time i read "this song doesn't go anywhere" i would have alot ricecorns! what i don't understandt is, that people wanted them to change, now they changed and now people want them to listen to Radiohead or U2?!
well FUCK YOU. we already have Radiohead and U2 and if there is another U2 then i think of the fucking Kings of Leon, which seem to try to be the texan version of U2 since their third album, which was great, but since then it just became dull and girly in MY ears. Please let Liam never make some sunday brunch time family rock.
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Post by nahuel89p on Apr 29, 2013 2:59:16 GMT -5
My opinion on second bite of the apple and FOTF:
The way I see it, both songs are really thin when it comes to the songwriting. Simple melodies, simple lines, simple song structure (the melody and rhyme thing in the verse is almost childish!) Songs like this make sense only with big efforts in the right production, and that's what happened, fortunately. Otherwise they're below average. However, I have no clue how are they going to sound live.
There's a big Tame Impala talk here. I'm sure BE forthcoming album will not be nearly as good as any of what Tame Impala did. Memorable melodies? Sustantive songs? Smart creativity? We can only hope for it.
Liam's voice went too nasal as well. But it's an acquired taste for many of us, so no big deal.
The good side: In both songs there are always some worthy bits. So that the good ends up outweighing the bad. Then again, the production is superb.
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Post by mytwocents on Apr 29, 2013 3:22:08 GMT -5
My opinion, first listen of course. This album is gonna rely all on production. Sitek is a genius and you can feel it listening to the tracks (at least FOTF and SBOTA), but it seems to me that the songwriting is really similar to DGSS. Good-enough songs with great production, they seem better than they are.
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Post by Bruno on Apr 29, 2013 3:43:34 GMT -5
I've heard it only once, I'll give it a proper listen when I get home. But all I'll say is to those who are complaining like broken records about the lyrics, what were you guys expecting? Pink Floyd/ Roger Waters like lyrics? This is Beady Eye not Pink Floyd, they write lyrics to go with the melody not the other way around. If you don't like the melody then fine, that's fair enough but for fucks sake stop complaining about the lyrics. The lyrics are not great but then again they're not a band from whom you would expect intellectual lyrics about politics and intelligent social commentary. If you were expecting this then well you were really building them up for a fall. I'm sorry, but this is bullshit. In respect. Yes because expecting someone to take some care in their lyrics, especially a songwriter, is asking a lot? Last checked, the lyrics are part of a song and if you give damn about your song, you edit your lyrics. 15 year old kids edit their lyrics. No, no one was expecting Pink Floyd. Yes, this is Beady Eye. Does that excuse them from never really giving a damn about their lyrics, no. When you can't take the time to care enough about your lyrics to edit them over two years, that's called laziness and a lack of attention to detail. That's not even a Beady Eye thing. That's any artist, including Noel. When Noel puts shit lyrics out there, it's the exact same thing. Give a fuck about your lyrics. Part of songwriting, part of the craft, and it is a craft, is continually pushing to make your song the best possible song. And that includes lyrics. If that truly is the BEST they can do, then shame on them. The this is "Beady Eye" isn't an excuse. That's shoddy work. There are three songwriters, not 1 can help edit lyrics? Not 1? Over two years? Good lyrics can be simple. They don't have to be high flung ideas or Pink Floyd or Bob Dylan. But you have to take the time to care about them first, enough, to get the most you can out of them. And I refuse to believe that was the most they could get out of them. No, I wasn't expecting Pink Floyd. I was expecting lyrics that weren't written by a 5th grader. (Sorry, Bruno. Not attacking you. I just don't think you provided a viable excuse) In some people's eye's their lyrics are acceptable, hey I won't defend the lyrics they aren't great but they're not as bad as your making it out to be. In your eye's it may seem lazy but I find it ok. It's a matter of opinion. They convey the message of the song and that is the point of lyrics and BE's lyrics accomplish that. I'm definitely not saying the lyrics are good but they're not bad either, all I'm saying is that Beady Eye's songs are not so much about the lyrics because let's face it they just don't have the ability to write that caliber of lyrics. Look at one of the most loved songs from DGSS, The Morning Son, pretty mediocre lyrics but it is still a good song. That's the point.
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Post by ched on Apr 29, 2013 3:57:32 GMT -5
Really want to like it but the repetitive nature just ruins it for me. I think Liam sounds decent and the horns are great. But at the moment, I can't properly get into the track. Still really looking forward to the album.
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Post by monkian on Apr 29, 2013 3:59:44 GMT -5
My opinion, first listen of course. This album is gonna rely all on production. Sitek is a genius and you can feel it listening to the tracks (at least FOTF and SBOTA), but it seems to me that the songwriting is really similar to DGSS. Good-enough songs with great production, they seem better than they are. Which is exactly the point of a Sitek produced record. I can only think of one or two TV on the Radio tunes that would be even half as good if they were stripped back to the bare essentials of melody and structure but that's not to say that they're a bad band. In fact they're one of the most critically acclaimed acts of recent years. Some bands rely on melody, choruses, structure and lyrics (Ed Sheeran and Adele are very good at all but I wouldn't listen to either) and some bands rely on the whole sound of a record. That's the way Beady Eye have gone and, to me, it's a good thing. Sitek's harnessed the band's plus points and put a new spin on it which is what the best record producers do. The fact is that they now have their own sound which is nothing like Oasis, nothing like the Beatles, nothing like the Who and nothing like the Kinks. Good! As for this Tame Impala argument, some of you are talking as though they're the most forward thinking band on the planet but, if anything, I think they sound more like the Beatles than anyone out there. They're hardly big on choruses either but what makes them sound good is the production - something that Kevin Parker takes extremely seriously.
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Post by andytr on Apr 29, 2013 4:25:14 GMT -5
im not a big fan of SBOTA at all.
i had my hopes up after hearing FOTF- it hasnt got the best lyrics but it has a cool vibe and considering it was only an album track it is certainly a step in the right direction after DGSS.
so with SBOTA being the lead single i was expecting it to be better than FOTF not worse!
i know some people on here are saying that the song being released as a single doesnt have any indication of how good the album is gonna be, but surely if they had some top class tunes on there they would wanna release one of the better ones to show the world that they are back in business??
this song has got me worried about the album again now.
sure the production might be great, but it cant work miracles!!
the song just doesnt do it for me- could have easily been a DGSS track.
i hope i am wrong and the band have for some strange reason picked the worst song on the album to release as a lead single.
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Post by Shockmaster on Apr 29, 2013 4:29:00 GMT -5
Listened to it last night, and just again right now... It's alright, but definitely not lead single material for me... It's also quite cheesy and pop, and I didn't expect that from Beady Eye.
Who are the lyrics by? They seem like Gem to me, they're weird and make no sense.
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Post by Regi on Apr 29, 2013 4:40:37 GMT -5
Listened to it a few times now. Can't help but get Robbie Williams vibes off it. I feel sick.
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Apr 29, 2013 4:54:01 GMT -5
Ok song. But again too repetitive! Their songwriting is beyond crap. No excuse for that. 3/4 of the song is "the word is up" , "cmon show what you love now". It just isn't good enough. This song has potential. Like 3RC it starts of well, then it becomes so repetitive it gets boring. ( there's a three ting cirkus going found x 1000).
Still looking forward to the album though. But my expectations are low.
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Post by Bruno on Apr 29, 2013 4:58:44 GMT -5
Yeah, heard it a few times, not great. I don't know what to think about the album now. Flick Of The Finger was awesome and the horns and stuff are pretty impressive on this song too but it lacks something. Not a great tune, pretty weak as a single I must say but I'm still optimistic. If the rest of the album can be more like Flick Of The Finger then it should still be good.
But for me Second Bite Of The Apple is filler at best.
Dreaming Of Some Space on the other hand sounds really promising. Loving the whole forward/reverse concept!
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Post by psj3809 on Apr 29, 2013 5:08:20 GMT -5
Well its great to hear the full version (Thought i would have to listen to Zane Lowe tonight !).
I'll be buying the official mp3 of this tomorrow.
Well Beady Eye cant win, must admit i 'prefer' Oasis sounding songs but i know lots of people say its samey and they have to try something different.
So i must admit this song doesnt sound like something Oasis/Liam would normally release, listened to it a few times now and its a grower. Wasnt that keen on first play, love the chorus and the middle though.
So far the two songs i've heard i've really enjoyed, Flick of the Finger i love now. The reverse version of Dreaming of Some Space i think sounds really good.
I wasnt blown away the other year when Bring the light first came out, so far enjoying what i'm hearing now. Really looking forward to the full album (and bonus content)
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Post by Let It Bleed on Apr 29, 2013 5:11:23 GMT -5
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Post by lavan1984 on Apr 29, 2013 5:18:50 GMT -5
I'm getting a 'Dig Out Your Soul' vibe from this song, it's well structured, Liam's vocals are raw, it's different, I'm really enjoying it, REALLY enjoying it! Nice and loud with a beer in me, I'm sure it'll be even better, this excites me!
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Post by manicsfan on Apr 29, 2013 5:28:28 GMT -5
Not impressed at all with it.
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Post by ManofMisery on Apr 29, 2013 5:31:53 GMT -5
After a few listens, I think it's a decent tune but surely they had a better tune to lead with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 5:48:33 GMT -5
I like it.
Not as good as Flick of the Finger, but still decent.
The production sounds great and elevates the so-so songwriting into something pretty good (as with FOTF). So Sitek was an inspired choice. The instrumentation reminds me of the Eels album Electro-shock Blues (which is not something I'd have expected from Beady Eye).
Their last attempts to write 'singles' fell spectacularly on its arse, so it's good that they're taking a new direction. If the album maintains the vibe of SBOTA and FOTF it'll be a good album.
The bit from 1.48 to 1.58, where the horns build, is my favourite. It makes me think, "Get up, Rocky! Get up, ya bum!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 5:53:54 GMT -5
Has anyone heard from theyknowwhatimean? I'm very concerned!He either loves the song and has wanked himself into oblivion. Or he hates it and is hanging from the rafters somewhere like Brooks from The Shawshank Redemption. Someone needs to contact theyknowwhatimean!!!!
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Post by hellokittyxxl on Apr 29, 2013 6:09:16 GMT -5
To be frank,far from amazing,it would be better if they diversity the structure ,and the lyrics.Hope the album not full of those songs。 6.5/10
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