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Post by The Chief on Apr 20, 2013 9:57:15 GMT -5
My question to Steve Lillywhite is, as a producer, if he thought the tracks were weak, wasn't it his job to tell them, to challenge them, to maybe make the record shorter but put the strongest tracks on it (cause there are some good tracks on DGSS), etc.
Isn't that the point of a producer? That's what Dave Sardy did, seems to be what Dave Sitek did with Beady Eye this time around.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 10:25:13 GMT -5
My question to Steve Lillywhite is, as a producer, if he thought the tracks were weak, wasn't it his job to tell them, to challenge them, to maybe make the record shorter but put the strongest tracks on it (cause there are some good tracks on DGSS), etc. Isn't that the point of a producer? That's what Dave Sardy did, seems to be what Dave Sitek did with Beady Eye this time around. I think he believed in the calibre of the artists he was working with, ex-oasis members, so that would do it regardless if the songs weren't there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 10:27:37 GMT -5
My question to Steve Lillywhite is, as a producer, if he thought the tracks were weak, wasn't it his job to tell them, to challenge them, to maybe make the record shorter but put the strongest tracks on it (cause there are some good tracks on DGSS), etc. Isn't that the point of a producer? That's what Dave Sardy did, seems to be what Dave Sitek did with Beady Eye this time around. I'd speculate that he tried to initially. Then received a swift "Fuck off, you're not Noel, we're doing it our way" in reply. So he got the recording done then said; "Ok fellas, my work here is done. Good luck with that."
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Post by spaneli on Apr 20, 2013 10:32:01 GMT -5
Damn, the way you make it look is like Beady Eye is the worst band on the face of the earth. I know, all this Beady Eye hate is bullshit. Why are most of you even on this forum than? Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 10:38:01 GMT -5
I know, all this Beady Eye hate is bullshit. Why are most of you even on this forum than? Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye. I agree with this sadly, the solution is the creation of a new forum exclusively for Beady Eye enthusiasts.
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Post by GIMH on Apr 20, 2013 10:47:15 GMT -5
I know, all this Beady Eye hate is bullshit. Why are most of you even on this forum than? Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye. Yeah but why do some people bother coming into the Beady Eye section? I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to be critical of them, but there are certain people with zero interest in the band that come in this bit and just post like dicks, like that Ash&Debris tosser. I post at a forum that has multiple sports subbies. I don't post in the Aussie Rules one because I don't care for it.
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 20, 2013 10:49:28 GMT -5
Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye. Yeah but why do some people bother coming into the Beady Eye section? I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to be critical of them, but there are certain people with zero interest in the band that come in this bit and just post like dicks, like that Ash&Debris tosser. I post at a forum that has multiple sports subbies. I don't post in the Aussie Rules one because I don't care for it. haha yeah that's what I meant to say
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 10:50:54 GMT -5
Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye. Yeah but why do some people bother coming into the Beady Eye section? I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to be critical of them, but there are certain people with zero interest in the band that come in this bit and just post like dicks, like that Ash&Debris tosser. I post at a forum that has multiple sports subbies. I don't post in the Aussie Rules one because I don't care for it. but since everything round here is under the Oasis umbrella, it kind of justifies the vicious criticism (constructive is always fine, but you know the difference). not for me, but for some others.
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Post by spaneli on Apr 20, 2013 10:53:28 GMT -5
Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye. Yeah but why do some people bother coming into the Beady Eye section? I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to be critical of them, but there are certain people with zero interest in the band that come in this bit and just post like dicks, like that Ash&Debris tosser. I post at a forum that has multiple sports subbies. I don't post in the Aussie Rules one because I don't care for it. Maybe, but that wasn't the question. The question is why do people who dislike Beady Eye on this forum, hopefully that isn't too much of a paraphrase. However, if you don't want certain people coming into this side of the forum, then why do you keep responding to them when they do? If they have to nothing to do with Beady Eye then why even entertain them? It's a give and take. Simple as. Edit: And I don't mean "you" as in "you" personally
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Post by Ltrain on Apr 20, 2013 10:58:48 GMT -5
Go Steve! Get that Kermit the frog!
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Post by The Chief on Apr 20, 2013 11:01:26 GMT -5
My question to Steve Lillywhite is, as a producer, if he thought the tracks were weak, wasn't it his job to tell them, to challenge them, to maybe make the record shorter but put the strongest tracks on it (cause there are some good tracks on DGSS), etc. Isn't that the point of a producer? That's what Dave Sardy did, seems to be what Dave Sitek did with Beady Eye this time around. I'd speculate that he tried to initially. Then received a swift "Fuck off, you're not Noel, we're doing it our way" in reply. So he got the recording done then said; "Ok fellas, my work here is done. Good luck with that." Quite possible, especially with Liam thinking everything he does is the dog's bollocks! Maybe their experience with DGSS made them realize they should listen to producers more. That is the kind of thing Noel seemed to take care of in Oasis so maybe they had to learn it in a way.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 20, 2013 11:02:59 GMT -5
Because it's an Oasis forum and not a Beady Eye forum. If you want everyone to like Beady Eye, then maybe you should try out a Beady Eye forum. Just sayin, just because you love Oasis, doesn't mean you even have to like Beady Eye. I agree with this sadly, the solution is the creation of a new forum exclusively for Beady Eye enthusiasts. There was one on the BDI website. Is that gone now? I visited it a bit in early 2011 and there were a lot of trolls there too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:04:10 GMT -5
Even Beady Eye's own website forum got trolled mercilessly as I recall, lulz.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:05:15 GMT -5
I agree with this sadly, the solution is the creation of a new forum exclusively for Beady Eye enthusiasts. There was one on the BDI website. Is that gone now? I visited it a bit in early 2011 and there were a lot of trolls there too. when I thought about posting, I imagined that if people have enough interest they'll follow them anywhere. dunno about the forum.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 20, 2013 14:26:36 GMT -5
Even Beady Eye's own website forum got trolled mercilessly as I recall, lulz. Yeah that's really great for fans. This section is fast becoming a joke, people have been leaving consistently for a while. It doesn't help the forum as a whole. About time the ban hammer was raised.
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Post by GIMH on Apr 20, 2013 14:39:09 GMT -5
Just need mods to be granted the ability to remove some people from specific parts of the forum
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 14:39:44 GMT -5
Even Beady Eye's own website forum got trolled mercilessly as I recall, lulz. Yeah that's really great for fans. This section is fast becoming a joke, people have been leaving consistently for a while. It doesn't help the forum as a whole. About time the ban hammer was raised. This section has been a joke for ages, tbh.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 20, 2013 14:40:58 GMT -5
Yeah that's really great for fans. This section is fast becoming a joke, people have been leaving consistently for a while. It doesn't help the forum as a whole. About time the ban hammer was raised. This section has been a joke for ages, tbh. Why has it? I'm interested to know from someone who has trolled here from time to time why.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 14:44:22 GMT -5
This section has been a joke for ages, tbh. Why has it? I'm interested to know from someone who has trolled here from time to time why. Because people such as yourself get sand in your collective vaginas and take it way too personally when a single negative comment is made about your beloved leader. However, I shall leave this conversation now before it escalates. You've been quite social lately and I've agreed with a few of your posts, it'd be a shame to ruin it. Final word is all yours, Tom.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 20, 2013 14:55:33 GMT -5
Why has it? I'm interested to know from someone who has trolled here from time to time why. Because people such as yourself get sand in your collective vaginas and take it way too personally when a single negative comment is made about your beloved leader. However, I shall leave this conversation now before it escalates. You've been quite social lately and I've agreed with a few of your posts, it'd be a shame to ruin it. Final word is all yours, Tom. I have no interest in arguing with you. You're an intelligent member of the forum but the problem really isn't with the Beady Eye fans, they just want to talk about the band. There is no doubt that there is quite a few people who come here specifically with the purpose of winding people up. I have no problem with someone disliking them or there music but fucking up this section just to amuse themselves is a bit sad. I have to say though Thom Yorke's new one isn't as good as the last one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 14:55:59 GMT -5
Even Beady Eye's own website forum got trolled mercilessly as I recall, lulz. Yeah that's really great for fans. This section is fast becoming a joke, people have been leaving consistently for a while. It doesn't help the forum as a whole. About time the ban hammer was raised. I've started to think that it will never change in the beady eye section, I thought things were terrible before the layout change and the block feature was introduced then things seemed to be on the up when Flick of the Finger was released as people seemed to dig it on the whole but now we've got douches like Ash&Debris and Ltrain whilst tossers like leak4ever and epiphone100 are still sniffing around the beady eye sections... There are far too many trolls in the beady eye section which is a shame because they ruin it for all the good users who post good stuff in the beady eye section and are genuinely interested in what music Liam and the boys make
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 15:15:37 GMT -5
I have no interest in arguing with you. You're an intelligent member of the forum but the problem really isn't with the Beady Eye fans, they just want to talk about the band. There is no doubt that there is quite a few people who come here specifically with the purpose of winding people up. I have no problem with someone disliking them or there music but fucking up this section just to amuse themselves is a bit sad. I have to say though Thom Yorke's new one isn't as good as the last one. Ha, fair do's Tom.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 15:20:37 GMT -5
Yeah that's really great for fans. This section is fast becoming a joke, people have been leaving consistently for a while. It doesn't help the forum as a whole. About time the ban hammer was raised. I've started to think that it will never change in the beady eye section, I thought things were terrible before the layout change and the block feature was introduced then things seemed to be on the up when Flick of the Finger was released as people seemed to dig it on the whole but now we've got douches like Ash&Debris and Ltrain whilst tossers like leak4ever and epiphone100 are still sniffing around the beady eye sections... There are far too many trolls in the beady eye section which is a shame because they ruin it for all the good users who post good stuff in the beady eye section and are genuinely interested in what music Liam and the boys make I've been an Oasis fan since 1995, and was a member of this forum long before you snivelled in. I ain't going anywhere. Get used to it, fucko.
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Post by Rolo on Apr 20, 2013 15:45:00 GMT -5
I'm thinking about starting a Beady Eye forum up soon, this section is completely ruined now, it really is. I'm all for people voicing their opinion but certain members come in and just ruin every single thread with their constant shit, if you don't like Beady Eye can't you just stay away? If I had no interest in a band I wouldn't even think about going in that section and posting, never mind going in and wasting hours trying to get a rise out of other members, so so sad.
Why don't these members get a warning, even better - banned? It's not fair on us who actually enjoy and want to have proper discussions about Beady Eye.
But yeah, I've had enough now, PM me if you're interested in a forum just for Beady Eye, things are only going to get worse here unfortunately when the album comes out.
Cheers.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 20, 2013 15:49:43 GMT -5
The last album is bad man they deserve all the grief they get.
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