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Post by Let It Bleed on Feb 22, 2013 19:20:44 GMT -5
i don't care whether you two try to breed cats and dogs..... the was to express your joy, you two seem to love to argue, or at least that was the norm for awhile, i think she's ignoring you at this point.. God bless. She could well be and that would be her prerogative. Strange that you would talk about arguing people being such an argumentative so and so yourself. i've been staying out of the bullshit lately, it's nice. God bless.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 22, 2013 19:22:54 GMT -5
Rare but nice I'm sure.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 22, 2013 20:57:59 GMT -5
The lack of surprise is on BDI really. They've been talking about plans for the second album since December 2011. Personally I think Noel had the right idea. Do it on the quiet and then blitz the media instead of having NME articles while you are still recording and basically have nothing to report or promote. Lots of bands talk about there records while they are recording, one of those magazines had reports from a few bands working on new material I believe. Did Noel really do it on the quiet? He held a press conference announcing two albums and only released one. Are you serious? I mean I realize you love to argue with me but you REALLY not see my point? Even if you prefer the BDI was of doing things of giving constant guesstimates on progress. Noel started recording in early 2010 and we had no confirmation until July 2011. Even though the AA never got released it was at the end of it's mixing stage by the time Noel said a word about it. A far cry from BDI's practice of discussing the second album plans before they finished touring. Or talking about their plans to record as a band and guessing release dates before they had even recorded a note.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2013 21:04:14 GMT -5
Lots of bands talk about there records while they are recording, one of those magazines had reports from a few bands working on new material I believe. Did Noel really do it on the quiet? He held a press conference announcing two albums and only released one. Are you serious? I mean I realize you love to argue with me but you REALLY not see my point? Even if you prefer the BDI was of doing things of giving constant guesstimates on progress. Noel started recording in early 2010 and we had no confirmation until July 2011. Even though the AA never got released it was at the end of it's mixing stage by the time Noel said a word about it. A far cry from BDI's practice of discussing the second album plans before they finished touring. Or talking about their plans to record as a band and guessing release dates before they had even recorded a note. Or discussing second album plans before their first one was even released! "It's up there with Definitely Maybe, the songs are as good as Definitely Maybe, maybe better!....we are gonna be massive!" - Liam Gallagher on DGSS #KissOfDeathComments
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2013 21:09:20 GMT -5
Be honest Tom, which Liam Zombie are you? BTW....I personally like Beady Eye and couldn't be more excited for the upcoming single, album and tour. I'm white, in my late 20's and wear jeans. I suppose if that makes me a Liam clone then I'm guilty as charged. Other than that your humor is lost on me. tomlivesforever, you know you are my favorite Beady Eye.....enthusiast....right? I'm not being facetious when I say this but you would be the perfect Beady Eye public relations manager/social media coordinator. You are dedicated and loyal. You put out fires and spin stories back to a positive light for the band. You would be a valued member of the Beady Eye hype machine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 21:15:07 GMT -5
well, there are news or not?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2013 21:19:04 GMT -5
well, there are news or not? all quiet on the western front........
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Post by gdforever on Feb 22, 2013 22:23:28 GMT -5
Are you serious? I mean I realize you love to argue with me but you REALLY not see my point? Even if you prefer the BDI was of doing things of giving constant guesstimates on progress. Noel started recording in early 2010 and we had no confirmation until July 2011. Even though the AA never got released it was at the end of it's mixing stage by the time Noel said a word about it. A far cry from BDI's practice of discussing the second album plans before they finished touring. Or talking about their plans to record as a band and guessing release dates before they had even recorded a note. Or discussing second album plans before their first one was even released! "It's up there with Definitely Maybe, the songs are as good as Definitely Maybe, maybe better!....we are gonna be massive!" - Liam Gallagher on DGSS #KissOfDeathComments They do like to look ahead. I believe in the promo for the DGSS Andy Bell mentioned their plan for their 3rd tour.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2013 22:28:19 GMT -5
Or discussing second album plans before their first one was even released! "It's up there with Definitely Maybe, the songs are as good as Definitely Maybe, maybe better!....we are gonna be massive!" - Liam Gallagher on DGSS #KissOfDeathComments They do like to look ahead. I believe in the promo for the DGSS Andy Bell mentioned their plan for their 3rd tour. Talking yourself up is fine but better back it up if you do is all I say. Those claims were outrageous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 1:50:33 GMT -5
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Post by gdforever on Feb 23, 2013 3:50:40 GMT -5
They do like to look ahead. I believe in the promo for the DGSS Andy Bell mentioned their plan for their 3rd tour. Talking yourself up is fine but better back it up if you do is all I say. Those claims were outrageous. All that is beside the point though. They had dozens of stories written about them when he made comments for over a year before the album was even announced. First headlines about Liam planning to record was in October 2009. Made it feel like it was a long time coming when the album wasn't announced for another 14 months in December 2010 and not released for 17 months. Noel managed to keep it quite. People on the board weren't even all convinced he was recording until the You and Me at Six tweet. And even then not that many news outlets picked it up. Which meant when Noel announced his album release it was big news "Noel Gallaghers album is out in 2 months." And it was news to most people. When BDI had announced their album it was basically "And Liam's new band Beady Eye have announced the album that they have been telling us they were going to record since this time last year." What tom seems incapable of understanding is that I think the element of surprise did Noel good. For everyone not us it came suddenly. I mean his press conference was up as a Musical Moment of the Year or what ever at the NME awards...spurious though anything to do with the NME is, it made a focused splash that BDI never did. But per usual feels it is neccessary to defend BDI from the opinions of randoms strangers on the internet.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 23, 2013 7:26:25 GMT -5
Talking yourself up is fine but better back it up if you do is all I say. Those claims were outrageous. All that is beside the point though. They had dozens of stories written about them when he made comments for over a year before the album was even announced. First headlines about Liam planning to record was in October 2009. Made it feel like it was a long time coming when the album wasn't announced for another 14 months in December 2010 and not released for 17 months. Noel managed to keep it quite. People on the board weren't even all convinced he was recording until the You and Me at Six tweet. And even then not that many news outlets picked it up. Which meant when Noel announced his album release it was big news "Noel Gallaghers album is out in 2 months." And it was news to most people. When BDI had announced their album it was basically "And Liam's new band Beady Eye have announced the album that they have been telling us they were going to record since this time last year." What tom seems incapable of understanding is that I think the element of surprise did Noel good. For everyone not us it came suddenly. I mean his press conference was up as a Musical Moment of the Year or what ever at the NME awards...spurious though anything to do with the NME is, it made a focused splash that BDI never did. But per usual feels it is neccessary to defend BDI from the opinions of randoms strangers on the internet. i get your point, but i think they have done it really good this time. There was no comparison with oasis albums, only the "this should have been made after WTSMG", which is not a comparison to me, cause he also said, that he loves Be here now. They just said that they are in the studio and trying to do things different, than last time. This got us excited, although it could be, that fans are thinking of completely different things, and then will moan, that it sounds to similar to DGSS, but as i said, in my opinion they have done it right this time.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 23, 2013 7:27:59 GMT -5
Talking yourself up is fine but better back it up if you do is all I say. Those claims were outrageous. All that is beside the point though. They had dozens of stories written about them when he made comments for over a year before the album was even announced. First headlines about Liam planning to record was in October 2009. Made it feel like it was a long time coming when the album wasn't announced for another 14 months in December 2010 and not released for 17 months. Noel managed to keep it quite. People on the board weren't even all convinced he was recording until the You and Me at Six tweet. And even then not that many news outlets picked it up. Which meant when Noel announced his album release it was big news "Noel Gallaghers album is out in 2 months." And it was news to most people. When BDI had announced their album it was basically "And Liam's new band Beady Eye have announced the album that they have been telling us they were going to record since this time last year." What tom seems incapable of understanding is that I think the element of surprise did Noel good. For everyone not us it came suddenly. I mean his press conference was up as a Musical Moment of the Year or what ever at the NME awards...spurious though anything to do with the NME is, it made a focused splash that BDI never did. But per usual feels it is neccessary to defend BDI from the opinions of randoms strangers on the internet. I don't doubt your facts, I just doubt anyone cares. Greatest Music Moment Of The Year Brian May joins My Chemical Romance onstage at Reading Festival Kasabian see in 2012 with their epic London O2 Arena show Noel Gallagher launches his solo career with press conference Pulp steal the show at Glastonbury with secret set The Stone Roses reunite A small time nomination at the NME awards shows a 'focused splash'? Ok. The irony of your final sentence gave me a good chuckle. Cheers.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 23, 2013 7:30:08 GMT -5
I'm white, in my late 20's and wear jeans. I suppose if that makes me a Liam clone then I'm guilty as charged. Other than that your humor is lost on me. tomlivesforever, you know you are my favorite Beady Eye.....enthusiast....right? I'm not being facetious when I say this but you would be the perfect Beady Eye public relations manager/social media coordinator. You are dedicated and loyal. You put out fires and spin stories back to a positive light for the band. You would be a valued member of the Beady Eye hype machine. Nah not really. If you knew my opinion on Beady Eye you wouldn't think it. But with people like GD telling the world how good it is to be surprised by something we rarely even get to the music anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 8:39:12 GMT -5
it was only a matter of time... BDI rumour threads are a ticking time bomb and once gdforever gets a hold on them they explode. Nice one again gdforever...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 8:48:03 GMT -5
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Post by frjdoasis on Feb 23, 2013 8:52:49 GMT -5
well, there are news or not? all quiet on the western front........"So let's hear it, for the quiet ones".
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Post by Let It Bleed on Feb 23, 2013 9:40:07 GMT -5
God bless.
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Post by deasy on Feb 23, 2013 10:25:55 GMT -5
it was only a matter of time... BDI rumour threads are a ticking time bomb and once gdforever gets a hold on them they explode. Nice one again gdforever... Could you point me in the direction of the post that gdforever made that caused the thread to explode? I read the whole thread twice and managed to miss the post of hers that apparently was incorrect and out of line. I seem to keep missing these seemingly terrible posts of hers. Thanks for your help.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2013 10:34:25 GMT -5
it was only a matter of time... BDI rumour threads are a ticking time bomb and once gdforever gets a hold on them they explode. Nice one again gdforever... Could you point me in the direction of the post that gdforever made that caused the thread to explode? I read the whole thread twice and managed to miss the post of hers that apparently was incorrect and out of line. I seem to keep missing these seemingly terrible posts of hers. Thanks for your help. That's because they never took place! Gdforever was only stating facts which seem to inflame a certain populace on this forum.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2013 10:44:06 GMT -5
tomlivesforever, you know you are my favorite Beady Eye.....enthusiast....right? I'm not being facetious when I say this but you would be the perfect Beady Eye public relations manager/social media coordinator. You are dedicated and loyal. You put out fires and spin stories back to a positive light for the band. You would be a valued member of the Beady Eye hype machine. Nah not really. If you knew my opinion on Beady Eye you wouldn't think it. But with people like GD telling the world how good it is to be surprised by something we rarely even get to the music anymore. It is your whole selfless Beady Eye persona which makes you the ideal candidate to hold that Public Relations/Social Media Coordinator position. Don't be coy Tom. You know it be true. BTW....what is your favorite Beady Eye song? Mine is easily Four Letter Word.
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Post by alwaysnow on Feb 23, 2013 12:21:06 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think it matters too much. One way may work for one artist at one time, and sometimes it might be the other.
I agree that Beady Eye have done it pretty well so far. Hope the continue through this path, letting the music do the talking, giving just enough to keep the fans and press interested.
I guess in this time and age, in which high-profile artists are exposed to public scrutiny, it's better to just go with the flow and accept that information will most probably leak, one way or the other, so it's better to control what information you give to the public, and not put too much effort in keeping things secret.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2013 12:26:10 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think it matters too much. One way may work for one artist at one time, and sometimes it might be the other. I agree that Beady Eye have done it pretty well so far. Hope the continue through this path, letting the music do the talking, giving just enough to keep the fans and press interested. I guess in this time and age, in which high-profile artists are exposed to public scrutiny, it's better to just go with the flow and accept that information will most probably leak, one way or the other, so it's better to control what information you give to the public, and not put too much effort in keeping things secret. Wait did you just say Beady Eye and "let the music do the talking"? That is not the Beady Eye way thus far. "It's (DGSS) is up there with Definitely Maybe...." "It's like the Beatles....on acid." "We are gonna be massive!" Hardly implying the "music do the talking" route.
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Post by Rolo on Feb 23, 2013 12:40:33 GMT -5
How's saying "it's like Beatles on acid" bigging themselves up? He's just describing how the album is sounding that's all. Would you rather they say absolutely nothing about the album? I don't know how that benefits anyone.
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Post by alwaysnow on Feb 23, 2013 12:58:10 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think it matters too much. One way may work for one artist at one time, and sometimes it might be the other. I agree that Beady Eye have done it pretty well so far. Hope the continue through this path, letting the music do the talking, giving just enough to keep the fans and press interested. I guess in this time and age, in which high-profile artists are exposed to public scrutiny, it's better to just go with the flow and accept that information will most probably leak, one way or the other, so it's better to control what information you give to the public, and not put too much effort in keeping things secret. Wait did you just say Beady Eye and "let the music do the talking"? That is not the Beady Eye way thus far. "It's (DGSS) is up there with Definitely Maybe...." "It's like the Beatles....on acid." "We are gonna be massive!" Hardly implying the "music do the talking" route. To be fair, I was talking about this new album, the DM quote is an example of what is not to be done. The press can't help but write about it every time. The only example you posted regarding this second album is not really hyping it up, I think (Beatles on acid). He's just describing the music, in his own way. Not arrogant by any means.
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