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Post by franklomax on Feb 20, 2013 16:21:25 GMT -5
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Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on Alan McGee leaking all of Noel's demos. While he didn't directly leak them, he gave virtually his whole collection of Oasis/Noel demos tapes and CDs to Rob at the BritPop Store so that Rob could sell them and make a fortune. I can understand the older Oasis demos, but I find it surprising that Alan McGee would give the BritPop Store the Noel 2010 demos to sell, knowing full well those songs were probably going to be used by Noel in the future on releases. So basically Alan is responsible for Come On Outside, Oh Lord, She Must Be One of Us, and Just Let It Come Down Over Me all leaking before Noel could record them properly and release them. I confirmed this with Rob from the BritPop Store. When I asked him about the source of his 98 demo CD he wrote back two words: Alan McGee.
I bet this is the last time that Noel advances one of his demo CDs to Alan prior to release.
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Feb 20, 2013 16:57:29 GMT -5
Noel will not like this...
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Post by Let It🩸 on Feb 20, 2013 17:01:34 GMT -5
shock treatments.
God bless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 17:09:05 GMT -5
Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on Alan McGee leaking all of Noel's demos. While he didn't directly leak them, he gave virtually his whole collection of Oasis/Noel demos tapes and CDs to Rob at the BritPop Store so that Rob could sell them and make a fortune. I can understand the older Oasis demos, but I find it surprising that Alan McGee would give the BritPop Store the Noel 2010 demos to sell, knowing full well those songs were probably going to be used by Noel in the future on releases. So basically Alan is responsible for Come On Outside, Oh Lord, She Must Be One of Us, and Just Let It Come Down Over Me all leaking before Noel could record them properly and release them. I confirmed this with Rob from the BritPop Store. When I asked him about the source of all his demo tapes and CDs he wrote back two words: Alan McGee. I bet this is the last time that Noel advances one of his demo CDs to Alan prior to release. I have decided you are the Rumpelstiltskin of this forum. Always in the background lurking, being mischievous.  |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 20, 2013 17:19:09 GMT -5
For god sakes Alan.. Noel will definitely be disappointed in Alan when Noel hears about this at one point. Although, the demos are in the hearts of fans now, and Noel could still probably surprise us?.. Um, maybe he could.
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Post by w415hy on Feb 20, 2013 17:22:02 GMT -5
should ask him to leak the other Stop The Clock versions....dying to hear them...how much?
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Post by Teotihuacan on Feb 20, 2013 17:38:06 GMT -5
Come on Outside we know Noel though highly of it and he planned to use it as a major part of NGHFB Vol. 2 (according to the Jeff Slate interview).
The other songs seem to be deliberate filler or b-sides in the mould of I'd pick you (Let it come down) or jokey novelty never intended to be serious like Swollen hand blues (She must be one of us).
While it was great to hear them, none of the other 3 are particularly impressive and I couldn't imagine them being on a proper studio record.
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Post by rupertg on Feb 20, 2013 17:45:21 GMT -5
Since when did leaked songs stop Noel?
Let There Be Love
Stop The Clocks
Record Machine
to name a few...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 18:11:15 GMT -5
Not good from from McGee, sure Noel release albums for his label anymore but Noel still trusted him and respected him enough to give them to McGee.
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Post by Bruno on Feb 20, 2013 18:14:06 GMT -5
What I don't get is, what does McGee possibly get from leaking these demos? He's not that hard up is he?
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Post by bluemagpie on Feb 20, 2013 18:36:45 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of McGee, even less now...but didn't he have a copy of the Mustique tape?
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Post by asimarx on Feb 20, 2013 19:18:33 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2013 19:24:00 GMT -5
I'm not saying this is definitely untrue but is everyone just buying this 100% from franklomax?
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Post by asimarx on Feb 20, 2013 19:28:48 GMT -5
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Post by rupertg on Feb 20, 2013 19:31:22 GMT -5
At least McGee waited till after Noel released the album.
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Post by asimarx on Feb 20, 2013 19:36:24 GMT -5
he gave virtually his whole collection of Oasis/Noel demos tapes and CDs to Rob at the BritPop Store so that Rob could sell them and make a fortune. Well, I certainly don't think he just got them for free. Think about it. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2013 19:44:18 GMT -5
It would seem quite a few here are, they are commenting like they believe it.... |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 20, 2013 20:19:25 GMT -5
It would seem quite a few here are, they are commenting like they believe it.... Alan McGee himself said he gave his copy of the "Be Here Now-cassette demos" away (quote), or lost it, whatever, so there probably isn't much hope in that regard. I was just joking anyway, from what I've learned and anticipated in that short time I've been active on this forum, the person calling himself "FrankLomax" or "timekeeper" or whatever he can identified with comes across sort of dodgy. I'm not here to start up a verbal argument with him/you. Because I'm not a native english speaker I couldn't argue the way I wanted anyway. All that "Oasis mafia" past, and I've really informed myself about that in the past weeks, doesn't really give him/you any credibility. But again, really don't want to start a fight, but appreciate the fact you're still trying to get involved in this community. Again, what I already said, Rob from the Britpopstore has certainly paid something for all the goods he got from Alan McGee. And now he wants to sell it with profit. Sometimes I think that guy doesn't really know what he's got in his hands. I mean, the first thing to check for me if I would acquire some, let's say, unreleased Smiths recordings, would be to invisibly check the fan community forums, just to get an idea what value that item might have. He originally demanded 250 pound sterling for the NG-Demos-2010. That says it all. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2013 20:57:40 GMT -5
It would seem quite a few here are, they are commenting like they believe it.... Alan McGee himself said he gave his copy of the "Be Here Now-cassette demos" away (quote), or lost it, whatever, so there probably isn't much hope in that regard. I was just joking anyway, from what I've learned and anticipated in that short time I've been active on this forum, the person calling himself "FrankLomax" or "timekeeper" or whatever he can identified with comes across sort of dodgy. I'm not here to start up a verbal argument with him/you. Because I'm not a native english speaker I couldn't argue the way I wanted anyway. All that "Oasis mafia" past, and I've really informed myself about that in the past weeks, doesn't really give him/you any credibility. But again, really don't want to start a fight, but appreciate the fact you're still trying to get involved in this community. Again, what I already said, Rob from the Britpopstore has certainly paid something for all the goods he got from Alan McGee. And now he wants to sell it with profit. Sometimes I think that guy doesn't really know what he's got in his hands. I mean, the first thing to check for me if I would acquire some, let's say, unreleased Smiths recordings, would be to invisibly check the fan community forums, just to get an idea what value that item might have. He originally demanded 250 pound sterling for the NG-Demos-2010. That says it all. I don't really understand what you are talking about and I don't want an argument. It just surprises me that people seem to be taking him at face value knowing his history. Just because there are some pics of him with McGee doesn't mean he's been handing over demo's especially of Noels solo stuff, would McGee even have access to them and if he did would he break that trust. Just all seems a little odd to me. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2013 21:08:58 GMT -5
You trying to cover for Alan McGee or something? If anyone doubts the info, just send off a message to Rob at the BritPop store. Its hardly shocking that I doubt you tbh. Why would Rob give up his source? Someone he's mates with? If you are right then fair enough but I'm not just going to take your word for it. |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 20, 2013 21:10:10 GMT -5
I could swear there were quote of him saying he'd listen to some of the demos and Noel's album was going to amazing before the album was even announced
Noel seems to still have a good relationship with him. I wouldn't be surprised at him having even solo album tracks. I'm sure all he'd have to do is reach out and ask.
If it is him leaking them I am sure that Noel is beginning to get a bit annoyed. I'm sure he'd probably cut him off for the future. Particularly since someone is raffling them off pretty quick if it's all the same supplier.
I'm sure there are many people that had access to particularly the 2010 demos though. I wouldn't take third hand information as gospel from Lomax. It's perfectly plausible that it's him though. I seem to remember occasionally reading something somewhere about McGee having on again off again financial issues. Don't know how true any of that is though
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2013 21:26:59 GMT -5
I could swear there were quote of him saying he'd listen to some of the demos and Noel's album was going to amazing before the album was even announced Noel seems to still have a good relationship with him. I wouldn't be surprised at him having even solo album tracks. I'm sure all he'd have to do is reach out and ask. If it is him leaking them I am sure that Noel is beginning to get a bit annoyed. I'm sure he'd probably cut him off for the future. Particularly since someone is raffling them off pretty quick if it's all the same supplier. I'm sure there are many people that had access to particularly the 2010 demos though. I wouldn't take third hand information as gospel from Lomax. It's perfectly plausible that it's him though. I seem to remember occasionally reading something somewhere about McGee having on again off again financial issues. Don't know how true any of that is though I remember that too, but as you say they still seem to get on well and I would find it surprising that he had sold him out for a few hundred quid. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 21:31:27 GMT -5
hey frank, i mean steve... it seems you were way off-base about joakim and his intentions concerning the remaining two demos. did you make a deal for a copy of your very own demo disc a few days before joakim graciously shared the other two tracks with the community?
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Post by Bruno on Feb 20, 2013 21:32:23 GMT -5
Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on Alan McGee leaking all of Noel's demos. While he didn't directly leak them, he gave virtually his whole collection of Oasis/Noel demos tapes and CDs to Rob at the BritPop Store so that Rob could sell them and make a fortune. I can understand the older Oasis demos, but I find it surprising that Alan McGee would give the BritPop Store the Noel 2010 demos to sell, knowing full well those songs were probably going to be used by Noel in the future on releases. So basically Alan is responsible for Come On Outside, Oh Lord, She Must Be One of Us, and Just Let It Come Down Over Me all leaking before Noel could record them properly and release them. I confirmed this with Rob from the BritPop Store. When I asked him about the source of all his demo tapes and CDs he wrote back two words: Alan McGee. I bet this is the last time that Noel advances one of his demo CDs to Alan prior to release. Could it be that Rob just said Alan McGee's name just so that people would stop asking him who his source is? |
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Post by franklomax on Feb 20, 2013 21:43:54 GMT -5
Just to clarify I looked back at my e-mails and Rob only specifically said that the 98 demos CD came from Alan McGee. I still believe that all or most all of them came from Alan, though. After all, there are pictures of the two meeting up and Alan signing posters for Rob. And all these demo tapes and CDs showed up at the same time.
Oh yeah, about the honeybus demos CD, Rob sat down and took another listen to it and informed me that he had made a mistake. He said that he thought it was a copy of the 2010 demos CD but it was actually just a copy of the album in rough form. So I declined to purchase it.
Joakim in the end pretty much did the same thing Jamie and I did. He released the tracks himself when it was evident that they were coming out anyway. I don't think he had any plans to release them anytime soon based on his previous post about wanting to exit the forum and put the songs out later in his own time and place. But once it was evident that others were hearing the songs, he went ahead and put them out ahead of his own schedule. Just as I did with STC live and Jamie did with all of his tracks.
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