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Post by craigflash on Feb 3, 2013 14:51:17 GMT -5
Hi everyone, listening to Liam's recent comments about the new album been 'OUT THERE' I got quite exited hoping its going to a album full of new,catchy,sing-a-long tunes! BUT what gets me is the amount of criticism the old album got, I love DGSS and can't understand why it got so much flack! What gets me is that Jake Bugg, Miles Kane are both ancient sounding but they are graced as the saviours of guitar music! I mean I love both BUT I'd say certain tunes on DGSS are much more upto date sounding than any tunes both those artists produced!! I love both Jake and Miles but it just gets me down when Beady Eye get all the stick they do when they are doing nothing different to artists that are been hailed as guitar music saviours!!
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Post by Ash & Debris on Feb 3, 2013 15:22:53 GMT -5
Beady Eye's lyrics are very elementary level in comparison to Jake Bugg whose lyrics spring the likes of Dylan to mind.
I also wouldn't get too excited over the superlatives we're bound to hear about LOMAB. I mean, TBGO was getting compared to Let It Be by the people who had heard it on these boards before DGSS leaked. That tells you all you need to know.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 3, 2013 15:39:41 GMT -5
Beady Eye's lyrics are very elementary level in comparison to Jake Bugg whose lyrics spring the likes of Dylan to mind. I also wouldn't get too excited over the superlatives we're bound to hear about LOMAB. I mean, TBGO was getting compared to Let It Be by the people who had heard it on these boards before DGSS leaked. That tells you all you need to know. Ha ha ha ha, sounds like Let It Be. That's funny. The Beat Goes On is a prime example of why some people were let down by DGSS. Some of the lyrics are incredible trite and cliche. I am however, excited that Dave Sitek is running the show on album #2. I expect improvement. |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Feb 3, 2013 15:47:42 GMT -5
Who is gracing Jake Bugg or Miles Kane as the savior of guitar music?
they debuts weren't exactly Is This It, aside from being young, they should be pretty equally regarded as Beady Eye (until it comes to live shows)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 16:49:16 GMT -5
Unfairly criticised, perhaps but not unexpected as it was on the heels of a massive band in Oasis with just a load of songs LAG had left over
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Post by spaneli on Feb 3, 2013 17:40:40 GMT -5
Wait, what's LOMAB?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 17:45:48 GMT -5
Beady Eye's lyrics are very elementary level in comparison to Jake Bugg whose lyrics spring the likes of Dylan to mind. I also wouldn't get too excited over the superlatives we're bound to hear about LOMAB. I mean, TBGO was getting compared to Let It Be by the people who had heard it on these boards before DGSS leaked. That tells you all you need to know. I never liked TBGO purely because of the appalling lyrics, then somebody on here twigged that it was a rip off of the theme for "Old Bear Stories" and its now unlistenable |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 17:51:30 GMT -5
Unfairly criticized? Really?
They are going to be, for better or worse, compared to one of the biggest, most influential rock bands of the last 30 years . . . their debut album was anything but a "great" record. Most fans have admitted that DGSS was less-than-great. Was it a terrible album? No. But it left much to be desired for sure.
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Post by Rolo on Feb 3, 2013 18:14:06 GMT -5
Lay Off My Avocado, Baby! |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 3, 2013 20:34:15 GMT -5
Unfairly criticized? Really? They are going to be, for better or worse, compared to one of the biggest, most influential rock bands of the last 30 years . . . their debut album was anything but a "great" record. Most fans have admitted that DGSS was less-than-great. Was it a terrible album? No. But it left much to be desired for sure. And when you sum to the equation a Liam who said that it was the greatest thing since DM... you don't have good results. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 3, 2013 22:19:21 GMT -5
Unfairly criticized? How? The critics found it to be better than they expected, and even All Music Guide rated it 4/5 stars, while giving Noel 3/5 (so very misguided on that one, me thinks).
Let's be honest, DGSS is very average at best.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 3, 2013 22:25:30 GMT -5
Unfairly criticized? How? The critics found it to be better than they expected, and even All Music Guide rated it 4/5 stars, while giving Noel 3/5 (so very misguided on that one, me thinks). Let's be honest, DGSS is very average at best. I'd say All Music Guide got it spot on. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 3, 2013 22:28:54 GMT -5
Unfairly criticized? How? The critics found it to be better than they expected, and even All Music Guide rated it 4/5 stars, while giving Noel 3/5 (so very misguided on that one, me thinks). Let's be honest, DGSS is very average at best. I'd say All Music Guide got it spot on. Because Beady Eye's album has bettered EOTR, IIHAG, BA, RM, SOTWB. Right.   |
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Post by Bruno on Feb 3, 2013 22:33:59 GMT -5
I don't think Beady Eye have been unfairly criticized. After being part of Oasis, if you come out with a mediocre album, what do you expect. I really enjoy the album, but I can see where the criticism comes from. There are a few filler songs on that album but for me at least it's a pretty good album, even by Oasis' standards. They didn't try anything new, so I think that's why they get criticized.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 3, 2013 23:05:29 GMT -5
I'd say All Music Guide got it spot on. Because Beady Eye's album has bettered EOTR, IIHAG, BA, RM, SOTWB. Right. EOTR is probably Noel's best song for a few years I just don't listen to it that much, IIHAG sounds like Noel on auto pilot, BA is a nice tune, I think the RM demo is much superior and I find myself wishing Liam had been able to sing SOTWB. In all I haven't listened to the whole album for a year maybe. I still listen to FLW, Millionaire, TR, BTL, Wigwam, TRC, MS, WOMR, ITBWAB regularly and give the full album a spin now and then. This is just my opinion of course but Noel without Liam doesn't have the edge he needs and I find his album a mid paced plod. I suppose I just still like Rock n Roll music and live the difference in that respect is particularly telling for me. Noel has chosen a different route which is fair enough, I hope he continues to put out good albums for his dedicated fans. Don't be too surprised NL4E, the Beady Eye section is bound to contain a few people who prefer Beady Eye.  |
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Post by The Chief on Feb 4, 2013 6:45:10 GMT -5
Unfaily? No I don't think so. DGSS was more a compilation of Oasis left-overs and, in many cases, you can hear why they weren't included on recordds.
To me, other than Four Letter Word, Bring the Light, Wigwam, Three Ring Circus and The Morning Son, the others songs are not worth what the lads are able to do. Liam, Gem and Andy wrote some awesome songs and they are able to do it again. But this was clearly not their best. Add a couple of Noel left-overs and you'd get more an Oasis anthology than a proper record.
I'm more confident about the next record, I'm sure it'll be way better.
I was listening to Dig Out Your Soul yesterday and I have to admit I do miss Liam singing Noel's songs.
You can't write off Beady Eye with DGSS. They're talented, they're able to do better.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 4, 2013 8:00:57 GMT -5
I'd say All Music Guide got it spot on. Because Beady Eye's album has bettered EOTR, IIHAG, BA, RM, SOTWB. Right. it's not htat hard to understand that some folks prefered stuff like four letter word, millionaire, wigwam, the morning son, bring the light, the roller etc. i love noels record but it lacks variety. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Feb 4, 2013 8:03:22 GMT -5
I don't remember too many bad reviews. DGSS was not a bad album. It was a lot better than what I was expecting. There's not one song on there that I would consider worse than 'TBWTL' 'TNOR' or 'AGN'...
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 4, 2013 8:07:28 GMT -5
as some members said, Differnet Gear, Still Speeding, mostly contained left overs from the Oasis era, which were recorded and rehearsed, to get comfortable with the new live situation, so i'm pretty sure, that the next album, will be better, cause they took their time, took advantages because their songs got critisized by managment, what got them back to re-write or write new stuff, than they have a really interesting and open minded producer (has anyone listend to Daniel Higgs before? great stuff, brave music!), who maybe shows them new paths, beside their old fashioned britpop styled 60s tour de force. AND they started to write together, which will be interesting, cause it was not hard to tell, which tune was written by one of them on DGSS.
So lets wait for Album #2 with an open mind and try to avoid expectations, maybe even try to forget, that these guys were in Oasis, which would be the best for them, to find their sound.
i believe the wait will be worth it.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 4, 2013 11:08:05 GMT -5
Unfaily? No I don't think so. DGSS was more a compilation of Oasis left-overs and, in many cases, you can hear why they weren't included on recordds. To me, other than Four Letter Word, Bring the Light, Wigwam, Three Ring Circus and The Morning Son, the others songs are not worth what the lads are able to do. Liam, Gem and Andy wrote some awesome songs and they are able to do it again. But this was clearly not their best. Add a couple of Noel left-overs and you'd get more an Oasis anthology than a proper record. I'm more confident about the next record, I'm sure it'll be way better. I was listening to Dig Out Your Soul yesterday and I have to admit I do miss Liam singing Noel's songs. You can't write off Beady Eye with DGSS. They're talented, they're able to do better. Hi Liam. |
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Post by alwaysnow on Feb 4, 2013 11:13:12 GMT -5
Don't listen too much to critics, if you like the album, that's what matters most.
I only want them to be successful enough that they remain motivated to make music, that's all I care for regarding sales and critics.
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 4, 2013 11:16:08 GMT -5
I thought most people were pleasantly surprised by the album, expecting it to be a total failure. It's just nice hearing Liam sing a full album with a range of deliveries and the b-sides were decent. Oasis really died a bit when Liam stopped singing Noel's songs bar the odd few, the whole thing was a bit half-cocked for the last few albums trying to please everyone in the band. I found Noel's album a bit more disappointing because I had higher expectations but on the whole would say that it was slightly better. Looking forward to Beady Eye's second album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 13:00:07 GMT -5
Gallagher Jnr proclaimed the "best album in 50 years"
When you compare Different Gear, Still Speeding to EVERY album since 1961..
Its down near the bottom isnt it.
Fair critism.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 4, 2013 13:08:41 GMT -5
Gallagher Jnr proclaimed the "best album in 50 years" When you compare Different Gear, Still Speeding to EVERY album since 1961.. Its down near the bottom isnt it. Fair critism. Taking that sort of bluster seriously and having an idea of the man with which you are dealing is pretty naive or stupid or both. Like you thought when he said it 'OMFGZ! Liam said its the best album in 50 years, so it must be!' |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 13:13:28 GMT -5
Gallagher Jnr proclaimed the "best album in 50 years" When you compare Different Gear, Still Speeding to EVERY album since 1961.. Its down near the bottom isnt it. Fair critism. Taking that sort of bluster seriously and having an idea of the man with which you are dealing is pretty naive or stupid or both. Like you thought when he said it 'OMFGZ! Liam said its the best album in 50 years, so it must be!' 40 year old Gallagher said it. He must take the flack. 5 decades of flack. |
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