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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 20:21:29 GMT -5
Three b-sides is better than one, surely. Beady Eye did five singles, same as NGHFB. Am I supposed to wet myself over the prospect of getting one shitty b-side? It's a waste of plastic. Let's have those beefy four track oasis-type Ep's back. I'm not going to bother buying a single if I don't get more than one bloody b-side. Is this crazy talk?  |
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Post by zoso97 on Jan 15, 2013 20:46:27 GMT -5
i think i read something where you if you have more than 2 b-sides(maybe 1 now?)its not eligible in the charts in the UK...maybe someone from there can shed more light...i agree i feel spoiled by my old Oasis import singles now
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Post by mkoasis on Jan 15, 2013 20:52:20 GMT -5
It would also be nice to have the bsides in more than 7" format. I love the bsides and I can appreicate the tradition of a-side/b-side but you have some valid point there.
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Post by ETrilk on Jan 15, 2013 21:42:07 GMT -5
i think i read something where you if you have more than 2 b-sides(maybe 1 now?)its not eligible in the charts in the UK...maybe someone from there can shed more light...i agree i feel spoiled by my old Oasis import singles now You're right. You can now only have one b-side. Courtesy of (where else) Wikipedia: The UK became a thriving market for CD singles, but in 1998 the UK Chart Supervisory Committee reduced the maximum playing time of chart-eligible CD singles from 40 to 20 minutes, though 12" vinyl singles could still play for up to 40 minutes. While Maxi-CDs had been much loved among the dance community, as most if not all of the remixes that had been commissioned by the label could be released commercially, lobbying by artists in other genres who felt obliged to record extra and cover tracks to provide enough material for their single releases was to blame for the rule change. As a result, UK singles from around mid-1998 often appeared as 3 separately-sold CDs with 3 tracks each, or more commonly, 2 CDs and an extra format (such as 7", 12" or DVD single). Very often, at least 1 track was common to all formats. Single releases in the US and elsewhere still included many tracks (primarily remixes) and called themselves maxi-singles to differentiate from the 3-track UK versions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 23:24:31 GMT -5
i think i read something where you if you have more than 2 b-sides(maybe 1 now?)its not eligible in the charts in the UK...maybe someone from there can shed more light...i agree i feel spoiled by my old Oasis import singles now You're right. You can now only have one b-side. Courtesy of (where else) Wikipedia: The UK became a thriving market for CD singles, but in 1998 the UK Chart Supervisory Committee reduced the maximum playing time of chart-eligible CD singles from 40 to 20 minutes, though 12" vinyl singles could still play for up to 40 minutes. While Maxi-CDs had been much loved among the dance community, as most if not all of the remixes that had been commissioned by the label could be released commercially, lobbying by artists in other genres who felt obliged to record extra and cover tracks to provide enough material for their single releases was to blame for the rule change. As a result, UK singles from around mid-1998 often appeared as 3 separately-sold CDs with 3 tracks each, or more commonly, 2 CDs and an extra format (such as 7", 12" or DVD single). Very often, at least 1 track was common to all formats. Single releases in the US and elsewhere still included many tracks (primarily remixes) and called themselves maxi-singles to differentiate from the 3-track UK versions. Yet another example of the "music industry" screwing itself through regulation and shortsighted decision making.  |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2013 0:33:19 GMT -5
i think i read something where you if you have more than 2 b-sides(maybe 1 now?)its not eligible in the charts in the UK...maybe someone from there can shed more light...i agree i feel spoiled by my old Oasis import singles now You're right. You can now only have one b-side. Courtesy of (where else) Wikipedia: The UK became a thriving market for CD singles, but in 1998 the UK Chart Supervisory Committee reduced the maximum playing time of chart-eligible CD singles from 40 to 20 minutes, though 12" vinyl singles could still play for up to 40 minutes. While Maxi-CDs had been much loved among the dance community, as most if not all of the remixes that had been commissioned by the label could be released commercially, lobbying by artists in other genres who felt obliged to record extra and cover tracks to provide enough material for their single releases was to blame for the rule change. As a result, UK singles from around mid-1998 often appeared as 3 separately-sold CDs with 3 tracks each, or more commonly, 2 CDs and an extra format (such as 7", 12" or DVD single). Very often, at least 1 track was common to all formats. Single releases in the US and elsewhere still included many tracks (primarily remixes) and called themselves maxi-singles to differentiate from the 3-track UK versions. From what I have seen that information is outdated. Seems to be from 1998. There was another rule change in 2004. Both Noel and BDI have opted for the cheaper option of a 2 Track single format for their singles but they could have released 3 tracks (so 2-b-sides) per single if they had chosen. The old Oasis 4-track singles would definitely now be ineligible. Sad that they changed it really. Only benefits the pop acts that don't write their own music and have to buy their songs. Obviously lobbied for by record labels that didn't want to have to buy the Britney Spears of the world 3 other songs to be competitive in the singles market. Wish that BDI/HFB had opted for the Maxi-CD option. But I'm mainly glad to be getting original b-sides again. (4 from BDI and 3 from Noel) |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jan 16, 2013 2:26:28 GMT -5
Be Here Now would have had better songs if 94-96 oasis were only allowed 1 b-side per single.
I'm glad it was there way it was though, a lot of the songs could have been worse off with over the top BHN style production.
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Post by LlAM on Jan 16, 2013 4:32:33 GMT -5
One shit b-side is better than 3 shit b-sides in my humble opinion.
Expecting Beady Eye to go anywere near Oasis standard singles is crazy talk.
Heck, we're lucky if they can come up with 11-12 decent tracks for an album.
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Post by twineesi on Jan 16, 2013 12:16:47 GMT -5
Back in the 90's before leaks and downloads etc it was like xmas just when a new oasis single came out, just because i got to hear 2 or so new oasis tunes i hadn't heard before, i used to play the 4 track single/EP over and over again the day it came out. Those were the days
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 21, 2013 11:01:44 GMT -5
for humbug the arctic monkeys released "my propeller" as a 10'' single with i think 4 tracks on it. so it seems, that it is possible. hope, that Beady Eye will do something like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 11:13:32 GMT -5
If beady eye really have got over 20 new songs and hopefully they've realised 13 songs is too long for an album which should mean a lot of b sides lying around.
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Post by gdforever on Jan 21, 2013 11:22:53 GMT -5
for humbug the arctic monkeys released "my propeller" as a 10'' single with i think 4 tracks on it. so it seems, that it is possible. hope, that Beady Eye will do something like this. That's interesting. Rules must have changed again. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 21, 2013 11:34:13 GMT -5
for humbug the arctic monkeys released "my propeller" as a 10'' single with i think 4 tracks on it. so it seems, that it is possible. hope, that Beady Eye will do something like this. That's interesting. Rules must have changed again. ok it seems, that i've bought a special edition or something, but it was the only one i found in my hometown. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Propeller |
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Post by morning_rain on Jan 21, 2013 12:31:50 GMT -5
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