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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 14, 2013 22:27:11 GMT -5
It's a poll, but it deserves to be in this section (I probably made this exact same topic several times over, but this forum is dead so live with the repetition).
IMO, it'll be between West Ryder and Velociraptor on this forum. I feel the former will win out from what I've read, albeit pretty close, but personally I think their 2011 effort is much more consistent.
I mean: Days Are Forgotten, Goodbye Kiss, I Hear Voices, Re-Wind, Man of Simple Pleasures and even Switchblades (which has grown massively on me).....
Either way, I think they are indeed worthy of stadium gigs at this point.
Would be good if responses ranked their 4 albums, too.
Velociraptor
West Ryder
Kasabian
Empire (their Heathen Chemistry.....i.e., very poor)
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Post by jordan71421 on Jan 14, 2013 23:01:36 GMT -5
I went with Velociraptor! It's the most consistent and has the best songs, including Let's Roll Just Like We Used To, which is to me their best song.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 14, 2013 23:19:09 GMT -5
Hard to say. Velociraptor is so well produced with many great songs on it but their debut album is also a force to be reckoned with. So many epic tunes (L.S.F., Club Foot, Reason Is Treason, Processed Beats, Test Transmission, Cutt Off). I think what hurt "Empire" was the departure of Chris Karloff who helped with so much of the music on their first album. It still has one of my favorites (Shoot The Runner) on it though.
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Post by Shockmaster on Jan 15, 2013 3:06:08 GMT -5
West Ryder
Kasabian
Velociraptor!
Empire
It's not even up for debate. My word is final.
West Ryder is a masterpiece, it's as good as, if not better than, Morning Glory.
Kasabian is mindblowing, especially for a debut.
Velociraptor is great, but doesn't live up to WRPLA. Good songs, but it's in the wrong order, and they left the best song to be a B-Side to Days Are Forgotten
Empire is good, but it's less of an album, and more a collection of songs... The effect of Karloff's departure is easy to hear.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 15, 2013 6:35:12 GMT -5
Definitely their first album. I wish they would make an album like that again.
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Post by dean87bwfc on Jan 15, 2013 8:10:54 GMT -5
Kasabian
West Ryder
Velociraptor!
Empire
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Post by RocketMan on Jan 15, 2013 10:39:26 GMT -5
Definitely their first album. I wish they would make an album like that again. yes! it's the only album i always come back and listen to. they're a great live band but the other albums are nothing more than alright with a few good songs on it. which is sad because i think they could deliver more |
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jan 17, 2013 13:10:55 GMT -5
WRPLA
Velociraptor
Kasabian
Empire
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2013 14:00:34 GMT -5
Never been much of a Kasabian fan. I don't think they're that great, I admire them rather than love them, that said I do own all their albums. There are some cracking tunes, but the best one has to be West Ryder.
I really liked the whole concept. That sort of ambition mixed with quirkiness from big bands these days is so sadly lacking I feel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 15:13:44 GMT -5
nice poll idea...I love Kasabian  West Ryder Kasabian Velociraptor! Empire. same. the best is totally West Ryder IMO, first Kasabian album I listened to all the way through. "Fire" is one of my top 5 all-time fave songs. it's just such a cohesive album, I know the songs weren't really written with a theme in mind but it worked out beautifully, you can just imagine the different asylum characters in the songs. there's lots of different styles ("Thick as Thieves" acoustic, "Where Did all the Love Go" retro, "Vlad" kind of punk?!) but there's still a unity to the album that I haven't see a lot. even in Oasis.  in spite of being the first "Kasabian" is kind of the album that defines the band best to me. Cutt Off + Butcher Blues = nine minutes of bliss. modern, retro, quirky, experimental, kind of sexy even lol. some of the intros / interludes are a bit too much though, overall just some 'first album' rough edges they've since worked out. Velociraptor! is probably the easiest to listen to if you're not a huge fan, or just listening to singles and not committing to the whole album. the songs are pretty disconnected. some of them are great though - Man of Simple Pleasures and Re-Wired probably my faves (still haven't come around to Switchblades though). breaking the songs apart I might rank Velociraptor! higher but as an album it's third for me. Empire... is an 'okay' album. I like several of the tracks but it just doesn't do a whole lot for me. Except for Shoot the Runner |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 17:54:49 GMT -5
You all talk about Empire and just mention Shoot the Runner, but... and about The Doberman? Fantastic song, is on my Top 3 of the band. Choose one of their four albuns is a really hard decision. I love them all, but I'll keep with West Ryder. Is a massive album, particularly live.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 18:28:29 GMT -5
You all talk about Empire and just mention Shoot the Runner, but... and about The Doberman? Fantastic song, is on my Top 3 of the band. Choose one of their four albuns is a really hard decision. I love them all, but I'll keep with West Ryder. Is a massive album, particularly live. The Doberman, Sun/Rise/Light/Flies/, Stuntman, British Legion... All great tunes! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 20:24:25 GMT -5
You all talk about Empire and just mention Shoot the Runner, but... and about The Doberman? Fantastic song, is on my Top 3 of the band. Choose one of their four albuns is a really hard decision. I love them all, but I'll keep with West Ryder. Is a massive album, particularly live. The Doberman, Sun/Rise/Light/Flies/, Stuntman, British Legion... All great tunes! Totally agree. And we forgot Empire, oh god... ;D Pandemonium |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 22:38:30 GMT -5
The Doberman, Sun/Rise/Light/Flies/, Stuntman, British Legion... All great tunes! Totally agree. And we forgot Empire, oh god... ;D Pandemonium Yep! Empire isn't a good tune on the album, but it is a monster live! |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jan 18, 2013 1:11:16 GMT -5
WRPLA
Velociraptor
Kasabian
Empire
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Post by jordan71421 on Jan 24, 2013 0:04:56 GMT -5
West Ryder Kasabian Velociraptor! Empire It's not even up for debate. My word is final. West Ryder is a masterpiece, it's as good as, if not better than, Morning Glory. Kasabian is mindblowing, especially for a debut. Velociraptor is great, but doesn't live up to WRPLA. Good songs, but it's in the wrong order, and they left the best song to be a B-Side to Days Are Forgotten Empire is good, but it's less of an album, and more a collection of songs... The effect of Karloff's departure is easy to hear. Hey Re-Wired, what's your favorite Kasabian song? |
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 24, 2013 10:05:24 GMT -5
West Rider.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 24, 2013 10:48:43 GMT -5
01 West Ryder
02 Kasabian
03 Velociraptor!
04 Empire
^^As albums/collection of songs go, I'd rank them like that. Favourite song being ''Empire'' - but there's so few really good bands about now that it makes this band come across better than what they really are. Also, Tom Meighan can be very annoying.
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Post by Shockmaster on Jan 25, 2013 11:02:02 GMT -5
West Ryder Kasabian Velociraptor! Empire It's not even up for debate. My word is final. West Ryder is a masterpiece, it's as good as, if not better than, Morning Glory. Kasabian is mindblowing, especially for a debut. Velociraptor is great, but doesn't live up to WRPLA. Good songs, but it's in the wrong order, and they left the best song to be a B-Side to Days Are Forgotten Empire is good, but it's less of an album, and more a collection of songs... The effect of Karloff's departure is easy to hear. Hey Re-Wired, what's your favorite Kasabian song? Cutt Off... Just pure awesome. Some of my other favourites are Vlad, Mothman, Pistols At Dawn, ID, Switchblade. |
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Post by kaori on Feb 3, 2013 9:22:07 GMT -5
West Ryder Kasabian Velociraptor! Empire It's not even up for debate. My word is final. West Ryder is a masterpiece, it's as good as, if not better than, Morning Glory. Kasabian is mindblowing, especially for a debut. Velociraptor is great, but doesn't live up to WRPLA. Good songs, but it's in the wrong order, and they left the best song to be a B-Side to Days Are Forgotten Empire is good, but it's less of an album, and more a collection of songs... The effect of Karloff's departure is easy to hear. I agree with every word you wrote ! Their debut album is fantastic, we can't deny it. But West Ryder was a breath of fresh air. The songs like Underdog, Fire or Where Did All The Love Go? are timeless. I'll never get tired of them. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2013 9:38:57 GMT -5
West Ryder is a masterpiece, it's as good as, if not better than, Morning Glory. Behave yourself. |
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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 3, 2013 12:58:06 GMT -5
Definitely their first album. I wish they would make an album like that again. yes! it's the only album i always come back and listen to. they're a great live band but the other albums are nothing more than alright with a few good songs on it. which is sad because i think they could deliver more Aside from WRPLA, The First album is the only one I listen to consistantly. Its so damn good |
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Post by matt on Feb 3, 2013 13:28:36 GMT -5
West Ryder clearly winning here. But does anyone think that this is the case because 'you're only as good as you're last album'? sort debate.
It's something that I've always thought is the case when a band releases a poorly received album (Empire) and then follows it up with a much superior one. It's the same with Oasis - Heathen Chemistry for the most part was terrible, but Don't Believe The Truth was heralded as a return to form. Looking at Oasis back catalogue and I don't think Don't Believe The Truth particularly stands out as 'the return to form' that many think of it. It's good, but I don't think it's way better than Be Here Now or Standing on the Shoulders.
Which got me wondering - if Velociraptor was released after Empire, would that be voted 'the best' Kasabian album?
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Post by kaori on Feb 3, 2013 14:30:42 GMT -5
Which got me wondering - if Velociraptor was released after Empire, would that be voted 'the best' Kasabian album? No, it wouldn't. But I see your point. |
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Post by lahaine on Feb 12, 2013 15:22:20 GMT -5
Empire i taught was a pretty good album, glam rocked it up. I always felt with Kasabain they didn't become a fully formed band really until West Ryder. Great Live band which is their biggest strength only Muse are better live imo. Top band with one excellent album in West Ryder and three good ones. They've taken that lad's band of choice when Oasis split.
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