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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 19, 2013 9:13:42 GMT -5
Because it's become an increasingly rare occurrence. No offense, like. Its a pretty simple concept, when his voice is well rested and he doesn't have huge amps everywhere he can still turn in some excellent performances but his voice doesn't stand up to touring as well anymore so it gets rougher as it goes on. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 19, 2013 10:32:56 GMT -5
Man of Misery from Empress Ballroom is killer. totally. CDUK 2002, Hindu Times is HUGE |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 19, 2013 16:34:13 GMT -5
Liam had so many good vocals even up to 2002. This thread should be retitled to look at 2004 and thereafter. Point and case, love this 2002 rendition of SCYHO: weve been on this forum for a lot of years together and with that comes respect but mate his voice is knackered here, if anything its this version that sounds like the vocal nodules, kermit esque style whatever you wanna call it started kicking in Ok, I concede. It's not the best Liam vocal, but I do still love the performance - when Noel's backing vocals kick in, it's amazing. When Liam and Noel are harmonizing like in the above SCYHO clip, or Cast No Shadow from Maine Road 1996, it's pure magic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 17:58:18 GMT -5
His vocals on some of the songs from the empress ballroom gig in 2011, particularly In the bubble and man of misery are boss
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 19, 2013 20:16:26 GMT -5
His vocals on some of the songs from the empress ballroom gig in 2011, particularly In the bubble and man of misery are boss Floss is boss! Floss is boss! |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jan 21, 2013 14:10:42 GMT -5
Man of Misery from Empress Ballroom is killer. totally. CDUK 2002, Hindu Times is HUGE True! SCYHO is also pretty amazing! Unfortunately, Noel's backing are lacking a bit of strengh.... |
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Post by noasabian on Jan 23, 2013 21:14:42 GMT -5
As an Oasis-fanatic through the years I have taken some notice of different factors that has an affect on Liam's vocal performances...
Liam sings well:
- When he's had some rest
- When they play far out from the UK, like South America and Asia
- On new songs/the old favourites (BHN-stuff particularly)
- When he looks good and is "up for it"
- In songs he has written, or strongly influenced
When Liam is happy and really tries, he delivers like noone else, when he gives a shit, that's exactly what he can sound like.
Some people on here need to relax on the slagging of Liam. My theory is that if he had remained a "normal" character, noone would know him as an icon, or even as an artist in the first place. Liam shines when he can do what he wants, even though he's had to pay the price it's what make him the star we know.
I actually think Liam today is a better SINGER than in 1994. I am not saying his voice is better now, but his techniqe is different and he's taking care of his voice, which he didn't do well back then.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 24, 2013 15:29:27 GMT -5
Beat this 2009 performance:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 16:09:28 GMT -5
Lyla on Jonathan Ross. Shakey start, but after the first verse it's unquestionably his best live vocal take since 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 20:44:21 GMT -5
2009 was such a weird year for Liam, towards the end of 2008 and up until that gig in Paris his voice was completely shot, unrecognizable from his old voice, he sounded so pained as well. I honestly thought Liam was completely finished! Then suddenly between around March he starts to sound better again and actually finishes a long tour sounding brilliant like he did at the start except a bit more breathy with no long drawn out notes like in the CS clip above. Same with the Beady Eye tour as well great at the start, shit in the middle then great at the end again except he doesn't hold the notes like at the start. It's really is strange!
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Post by rupertg on Jan 24, 2013 21:50:28 GMT -5
I'm slightly pissed right now BUT Wonderwall from the Olympic ceremony is pretty amaxing.
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Post by noasabian on Jan 24, 2013 22:06:08 GMT -5
2009 was such a weird year for Liam, towards the end of 2008 and up until that gig in Paris his voice was completely shot, unrecognizable from his old voice, he sounded so pained as well. I honestly thought Liam was completely finished! Then suddenly between around March he starts to sound better again and actually finishes a long tour sounding brilliant like he did at the start except a bit more breathy with no long drawn out notes like in the CS clip above. Same with the Beady Eye tour as well great at the start, shit in the middle then great at the end again except he doesn't hold the notes like at the start. It's really is strange! I think that's just geniuine human psychology. You start up fresh, get tired after a while and when you see the end of the tunnell (in this case a long tour), you get energy to finish the best possible way. Liams singing has always been very inconsistent. He occasionally gives some below-average performances in between a row of good ones, and some great one's when he's been pretty poor. A recent example is Empress Ballroom where he sounded miles better than 4 days earlier in Rio. The band had played around South America for a long time and the fact they were finally going home, and were about to play such an iconic venue with the most up for it fans, may have given Liam more motivation I would think. The difference is remarkable. Liam's still got it, but only delivers when he wants. |
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Post by Bruno on Jan 25, 2013 0:09:49 GMT -5
I'm slightly pissed right now BUT Wonderwall from the Olympic ceremony is pretty amaxing. But that's not a live vocal. It's pre-recorded. That's the reason Noel refused to do it so it doesn't really count but it is a good performance nonetheless. |
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Post by mistakenidentity on Jan 25, 2013 0:23:39 GMT -5
I'm slightly pissed right now BUT Wonderwall from the Olympic ceremony is pretty amaxing. But that's not a live vocal. It's pre-recorded. That's the reason Noel refused to do it so it doesn't really count but it is a good performance nonetheless. Vocals were live. The band was pre-recorded though. I think Noel didn't want to pretend to be playing the guitar. That's why he refused. |
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Post by Bruno on Jan 25, 2013 0:37:45 GMT -5
I distinctly remember noel saying that they wanted him to mime the vocals and that's why he didn't do it so the vocals are most probably pre-recorded because those were the conditions to do the performance.
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Post by jordan71421 on Jan 25, 2013 0:46:20 GMT -5
I distinctly remember noel saying that they wanted him to mime the vocals and that's why he didn't do it so the vocals are most probably pre-recorded because those were the conditions to do the performance. Nah I think they wanted him to do it the way he usually does it acoustically but the instruments would be mimed so he decided not to do it. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 25, 2013 8:37:59 GMT -5
I distinctly remember noel saying that they wanted him to mime the vocals and that's why he didn't do it so the vocals are most probably pre-recorded because those were the conditions to do the performance. The vocals are not pre-recorded. Its pretty obvious from watching the performance itself. |
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Post by Bruno on Jan 25, 2013 8:46:42 GMT -5
Ok just saw the video and I concede the vocals do appear to be live. As they say ma bad. ;D
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Post by Rolo on Jan 25, 2013 9:27:47 GMT -5
The frustrating thing about Liam is we all know he is still capable of some fantastic performances, look at that Blackpool gig, unbelievable. I just think sometimes the adrenaline takes over and he starts shouting nearly every line.
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Post by manicsfan on Jan 25, 2013 9:59:09 GMT -5
Although I hate Familiar To Millions I have to say I love Liam's vocal on Gas Panic.
IT's raw, edgy and powerful.
Shame about the rest of the gig though!!
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Post by spaneli on Jan 25, 2013 10:17:40 GMT -5
I actually think Liam today is a better SINGER than in 1994. I am not saying his voice is better now, but his techniqe is different and he's taking care of his voice, which he didn't do well back then. I agree. I believe he is a better singer now than he's ever been. He takes more effort to take care of his voice, his technique is also better, and he's learned to shout less and less and sing. He's still a work in progress as he'll probably will be for the rest of his life. But this work in progress is much more aware and a bit more mature than the previous one who was blessed with an immense and somewhat natural voice. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 26, 2013 6:57:04 GMT -5
If we're including the year 2000 then I'd say his best vocal performance was in Yokohama in that year. Amazing vox the whole way through that gig including 'Rock 'n' Roll Star' which is my favourite performance of that song.
Also a mention for his vocals in the Tweeter Center Boston in '05 which were fairly raw but suited the band that night because they were all on fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 16:26:46 GMT -5
I actually think Liam today is a better SINGER than in 1994. I am not saying his voice is better now, but his techniqe is different and he's taking care of his voice, which he didn't do well back then. I agree. I believe he is a better singer now than he's ever been. He takes more effort to take care of his voice, his technique is also better, and he's learned to shout less and less and sing. He's still a work in progress as he'll probably will be for the rest of his life. But this work in progress is much more aware and a bit more mature than the previous one who was blessed with an immense and somewhat natural voice. Good post. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 13:26:26 GMT -5
2009 was such a weird year for Liam, towards the end of 2008 and up until that gig in Paris his voice was completely shot, unrecognizable from his old voice, he sounded so pained as well. I honestly thought Liam was completely finished! Then suddenly between around March he starts to sound better again and actually finishes a long tour sounding brilliant like he did at the start except a bit more breathy with no long drawn out notes like in the CS clip above. Same with the Beady Eye tour as well great at the start, shit in the middle then great at the end again except he doesn't hold the notes like at the start. It's really is strange! I agree that he seemed to pick up suddenly at the end of the DOYS tour which was wierd but I think the DGSS tour was a normal tour in that he gradually got worse over the course of the tour although he was still sounding pretty good in Novemeber, December was pretty awful really imo |
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Post by pwntinator on Jan 30, 2013 17:38:46 GMT -5
In LDSMD you can clearly hear Liam doing vocal exercises before the Madison Square Garden gig (listen to it here). He then goes to perform one of his best gigs vocally of the whole tour (imo), one example is Turn Up The Sun and Rock N Roll Star which are available on YouTube. I think it sounds pretty damn fine. Conclusion: Liam can deliver a powerful vocal when he just gives a damn. |
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