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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 13, 2012 9:03:17 GMT -5
There's no way Liam likes any of the bands that Sitek's produced in the past. Baffled as to how this has come about. If I had to predict I would guess Andy recommended him.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 13, 2012 9:12:17 GMT -5
great choice. the production on DGSS was horrible. sounded like a cheap 60s cover band. sitek could help them to create their own sound
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Post by J-200 on Nov 13, 2012 12:25:50 GMT -5
This is a big record for Beady Eye. Perhaps make or break time. They will bring everything to the table. Better songs and better production. Dave Sitek is a sign of that in my opinion. He won't sit back and let a run of the mill rock record be created. His resume is too outstanding for that. Good times ahead I'm sure.Yeah, looks really promising!
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Post by MacaRonic on Nov 13, 2012 15:35:39 GMT -5
Was not expecting this. Interesting times ahead.....
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Post by holidayinthesun on Nov 13, 2012 16:12:17 GMT -5
Not sure I understand some of the comments here... if BDI sounds like anything other than a "retro 60's British rock band" I will be very disappointed. What in the world are you expecting here? BDI / NGHFB / Oasis are all about the greatest era and influences of classic Rock and Roll music. I don't want anything different this time around (it's a good thing too, because I guarantee you it won't be) regardless of who the producer is.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 14, 2012 8:36:47 GMT -5
Not sure I understand some of the comments here... if BDI sounds like anything other than a "retro 60's British rock band" I will be very disappointed. What in the world are you expecting here? BDI / NGHFB / Oasis are all about the greatest era and influences of classic Rock and Roll music. I don't want anything different this time around (it's a good thing too, because I guarantee you it won't be) regardless of who the producer is. nah it's just about sounding more modern and fresh. maybe they're willing to try something new. i would really appreciate that. i just can't imagine that someone wants another DGSS kinda album. i personally would lose the rest of my interest in this band if they only repeat themselves again.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2012 8:40:06 GMT -5
Not sure I understand some of the comments here... if BDI sounds like anything other than a "retro 60's British rock band" I will be very disappointed. What in the world are you expecting here? BDI / NGHFB / Oasis are all about the greatest era and influences of classic Rock and Roll music. I don't want anything different this time around (it's a good thing too, because I guarantee you it won't be) regardless of who the producer is. nah it's just about sounding more modern and fresh. maybe they're willing to try something new. i would really appreciate that. i just can't imagine that someone wants another DGSS kinda album. i personally would lose the rest of my interest in this band if they only repeat themselves again. I wouldn't worry Mr. Kite. Dave Sitek isn't sitting at the desk to make DGSS part II. The Beady Eye sound will get a necessary face lift and the quality of songs will improve. I'd imagine 11 songs this time around with good b-sides.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 14, 2012 8:42:48 GMT -5
i'm happy that most everyone's happy with the choice for producer. God bless.
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Post by jordan71421 on Nov 14, 2012 9:12:41 GMT -5
I'm very excited and can't wait for the first single!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2012 9:22:56 GMT -5
I'm very excited and can't wait for the first single! It would be awesome if a single came out in January or February to energize the fan base world wide. This could be wishful thinking but I'll hold out hope.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 14, 2012 9:26:20 GMT -5
^Maybe a christmas single if they're really fast? Would be a good idea commercially Still, realistically speaking, we probably won't hear anything this year and the album will be out in spring or early summer, best case.
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Post by Rolo on Nov 14, 2012 10:47:45 GMT -5
First single around April-May time I'm thinking.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 14, 2012 11:15:19 GMT -5
^Maybe a christmas single if they're really fast? Would be a good idea commercially Still, realistically speaking, we probably won't hear anything this year and the album will be out in spring or early summer, best case. A standalone single out out while they are bashing it out in the studio would be amazing but probably hoping for too much. They probably wouldn't be finished basic recording until Christmas. Beginning of last year they brought up the fact that they wanted to do standalone singles with BDI. I am a bit surprised that they didn't do anything like that in their rather lengthy break. I was so excited beginning of last year with all their big talk about BDI. No long gaps between records. Being way more prolific and constantly be working on music between tours. None of those big breaks Noel would force on them. Stand alone singles and bringing back the b-sides like classic Oasis I'm a bit disappointed they've ended up on the same schedule as Oasis with a year between the end of tour and recording. I had hoped against hope that we'd end up getting an album every 18 months. The 12 months Liam suggested was too good to be true but 18 months would have been great. 10 months of tour, a short break, 6-7 months of recording and back at it. Guess it was too good to be true though. Wonder if they write together on tour at all? Might be a good idea. A time when they are all away from the family and real life. Then they could properly collaborate which I really think would be great rather than them writing apparently and then tweaking in the studio like they did with DGSS
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2012 11:24:59 GMT -5
^Maybe a christmas single if they're really fast? Would be a good idea commercially Still, realistically speaking, we probably won't hear anything this year and the album will be out in spring or early summer, best case. A standalone single out out while they are bashing it out in the studio would be amazing but probably hoping for too much. They probably wouldn't be finished recording Beginning of last year they brought up the fact that they wanted to do standalone singles with BDI. I am a bit surprised that they didn't do anything like that in their 12 month break. I was so excited beginning of last year with all their big talk about BDI. No long gaps between records. Being way more prolific and constantly be working on music. None of those big breaks Noel would force on them. Standalone singles and bringing back the b-sides like in classic Oasis. Yeah, I too was excited about all the constant activity Beady Eye was going to have as a band. Liam mentioned stand alone singles, an EP and soundtrack to the currently MIA movie "The Longest Cocktail Party". Currently none of this has materialized but I do understand. Liam was probably talked out of the EP to save good songs for album #2 and the film project is still very silent. No idea when that project is going to surface. It's been over 2 years since Liam hired screenwriters for it. No casting news either.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 14, 2012 11:29:12 GMT -5
A standalone single out out while they are bashing it out in the studio would be amazing but probably hoping for too much. They probably wouldn't be finished recording Beginning of last year they brought up the fact that they wanted to do standalone singles with BDI. I am a bit surprised that they didn't do anything like that in their 12 month break. I was so excited beginning of last year with all their big talk about BDI. No long gaps between records. Being way more prolific and constantly be working on music. None of those big breaks Noel would force on them. Standalone singles and bringing back the b-sides like in classic Oasis. Yeah, I too was excited about all the constant activity Beady Eye was going to have as a band. Liam mentioned stand alone singles, an EP and soundtrack to the currently MIA movie "The Longest Cocktail Party". Currently none of this has materialized but I do understand. Liam was probably talked out of the EP to save good songs for album #2 and the film project is still very silent. No idea when that project is going to surface. It's been over 2 years since Liam hired screenwriters for it. No casting news either. Doubt it'll happen. From what I understand most film ideas end up coming to nothing which is why they generally aren't publicized until they are beyond the concept stages.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2012 11:30:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I too was excited about all the constant activity Beady Eye was going to have as a band. Liam mentioned stand alone singles, an EP and soundtrack to the currently MIA movie "The Longest Cocktail Party". Currently none of this has materialized but I do understand. Liam was probably talked out of the EP to save good songs for album #2 and the film project is still very silent. No idea when that project is going to surface. It's been over 2 years since Liam hired screenwriters for it. No casting news either. Doubt it'll happen. From what I understand most film ideas end up coming to nothing which is why they generally aren't publicized until they are beyond the concept stages. I guess Liam should have waited then instead of attending the Canne Film Festival in 2010 to announce his film. That was almost 3 years ago now. They make Lord of The Rings movies in shorter time.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 14, 2012 11:34:03 GMT -5
Doubt it'll happen. From what I understand most film ideas end up coming to nothing which is why they generally aren't publicized until they are beyond the concept stages. I guess Liam should have waited then instead of attending the Canne Film Festival in 2010 to announce his film. That was almost 3 years ago now. They make Lord of The Rings movies in shorter time. lol. "Liam announcing things prematurely shocker"...not. He basically announced the bands follow up album would be out at the beginning of 2012...before DGSS was even officially out. So does Liam have a film company? Why was he announcing anyways? I'm confused about the extent of his connection.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2012 11:43:41 GMT -5
I guess Liam should have waited then instead of attending the Canne Film Festival in 2010 to announce his film. That was almost 3 years ago now. They make Lord of The Rings movies in shorter time. lol. "Liam announcing things prematurely shocker"...not. He basically announced the bands follow up album would be out at the beginning of 2012...before DGSS was even officially out. So does Liam have a film company? Why was he announcing anyways? I'm confused about the extent of his connection. Talking ambitiously is what makes a Gallagher brother. Liam definitely has a tendency to get ahead of himself. Mentioning the follow up to DGSS before it was released seemed puzzling. As does his film project...so far he talked about recording the soundtrack "soon" and wanting to cast Aaron Taylor-Johnson as John Lennon and Johnny Depp as Derek Taylor (which is actually a brilliant idea). Normally you get a script done and bring on a director before anything else.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 14, 2012 11:55:03 GMT -5
In fairness, Beady Eye haven't had that much of break at all. It seems they have already been working hard writing and demoing for the best part of this year.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 14, 2012 12:16:03 GMT -5
Most musician demo during their breaks. Don't they? Oasis did too.
What I actually thought would have happen to keep them as prolific as they said they wanted to be was that they would have start working on the songs for the follow-up while they were on the road with each other for DGSS. Everyone is there and they are all primarily concentrating on music without kids and family and other friends around.
Obviously, it's turned out not to be their thing but it could have cut down on their lag time by a half a year or more. As you said it took them most of the year to demo between the rest of their lives.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 14, 2012 12:50:09 GMT -5
Most musician demo during their breaks. Don't they? Oasis did too. What I actually thought would have happen to keep them as prolific as they said they wanted to be was that they would have start working on the songs for the follow-up while they were on the road with each other for DGSS. Everyone is there and they are all primarily concentrating on music without kids and family and other friends around. Obviously, it's turned out not to be their thing but it could have cut down on their lag time by a half a year or more. As you said it took them most of the year to demo between the rest of their lives. Oasis did sporadically, but they didn't step straight off the road and more or less back into getting the next album sorted. I think it was their Reading festival interview where they said they were working on tunes and knew who they wanted to record them. It shows that they've been working hard on them they well may be quite a bit further on than rough demo's as when they took the DBTT songs to Dave Sardy. Something could come quite quickly. Ultimately a wait of what is looking like something a bit over 2 years which includes nearly a year of touring is not bad going.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 14, 2012 13:04:50 GMT -5
You're right that it's no different than Oasis. That was exactly my point. I thought it was going to be different based upon the bands comments.
The cycle is pretty much identical.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 14, 2012 13:29:39 GMT -5
The last two Oasis albums were basically 3 years each so if this comes out on time I'd have to say its a different cycle.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 14, 2012 13:30:08 GMT -5
To be fair, I do think they had every intention of standalone singles and follow up albums, but I don't think they anticipated the apathy shown towards them by the public. The buzz around them completely died shortly after the album release and initial tour. If their 2nd "official" single only made number 71 three months after DGSS' release and they were playing in front of half arsed, half full festival crowds, what would be the point in a standalone single a year down the line when Noel was very much flavour of the month and with little promotion behind it?
Its easy to get straight back into the studio for album number 2 when you're on the crest of a wave, just as Oasis did with Morning Glory. Its a lot harder when the album received mixed reviews. Their egos have taken a bit of a battering and the pressure is on to get it right.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2012 14:07:12 GMT -5
To be fair, I do think they had every intention of standalone singles and follow up albums, but I don't think they anticipated the apathy shown towards them by the public. The buzz around them completely died shortly after the album release and initial tour. If their 2nd "official" single only made number 71 three months after DGSS' release and they were playing in front of half arsed, half full festival crowds, what would be the point in a standalone single a year down the line when Noel was very much flavour of the month and with little promotion behind it? Its easy to get straight back into the studio for album number 2 when you're on the crest of a wave, just as Oasis did with Morning Glory. Its a lot harder when the album received mixed reviews. Their egos have taken a bit of a battering and the pressure is on to get it right. End scene. Cut to Dave Sitek in the studio...
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