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Post by mistakenidentity on Oct 31, 2012 23:21:58 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been discussed before but I was wondering if the band would be willing to work with another songwriter (someone outside the band). They've got friends in the music business so maybe they could do a collaboration. I like the songs Liam wrote in Oasis but Andy and Gem's songs on the Oasis albums are the ones I usually skip. They need a hit song and I don't think they are going to get one unless they get some help.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 23:57:37 GMT -5
Bands nowadays should write their own music. Unless they collaborated with someone fantastic, I'd rather them write their ow music (for better or for worse).
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 1, 2012 4:29:33 GMT -5
It'd be pretty much rock bottom for them if they needed outside help.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2012 5:32:00 GMT -5
All this 'they need a hit' is bollocks. Even if they did write a song suitable the chances of it becoming a hit are low indeed. There age, style of music, profile amongst young people make it very unlikely.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 1, 2012 6:18:43 GMT -5
They should get Noel to write their songs.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2012 7:03:29 GMT -5
On a roll today aren't you trollolollollol.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 1, 2012 7:11:29 GMT -5
i've mentioned an Elvis style music dynamic.
although, i think BDI's new album will be alright, more focused and better songs.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 7:50:55 GMT -5
i think BDI's new album will be alright, more focused and better songs. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 1, 2012 8:27:12 GMT -5
What Beady Eye most need is songs with quality, not a hit song.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 1, 2012 8:33:44 GMT -5
What Beady Eye most need is songs with quality, not a hit song. This. I don't care if BDI get successfull (and they won't), if their music is good it's all that should matter to them and the fans. Noel's biggest hit was What a Life and that was not even in the top 5 of the album - at least I think we can all agree that it's not the best song on HFB. BDI need to write a song like Everybody's On The Run or Broken Arrow, not like WAL. And no, of course they won't work with another songwriter, they already got 3 who are able to write good songs if they work hard enough. |
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Post by eva on Nov 1, 2012 8:45:45 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been discussed before but I was wondering if the band would be willing to work with another songwriter (someone outside the band). They've got friends in the music business so maybe they could do a collaboration. I like the songs Liam wrote in Oasis but Andy and Gem's songs on the Oasis albums are the ones I usually skip. They need a hit song and I don't think they are going to get one unless they get some help. Fuck off your prick.  charming I don't think Beady Eye need hit songs. I'd rather have them make good music and nto something that would appeal Radio 1 listeners. and if they hire an outside songwriter, they might as well call it quits |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 1, 2012 11:18:06 GMT -5
What Beady Eye most need is songs with quality, not a hit song. No it isn't. You clearly know jack all about the music industry and why Noel sold so many albums and played big gigs. When it comes to success the only difference between Noel and Beady Eye was AKA What a Life. And a far better album. |
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Post by mistakenidentity on Nov 1, 2012 11:50:10 GMT -5
Perhaps I was not clear. I was not suggesting that they just hire someone to write all their songs for them. I was thinking more along the lines of having an additional co-writer. Yes, Beady Eye has good songwriters but what they need is guidance –someone who can take their songs from good to great. Maybe they will work with a different producer this time around and that will make a difference. I don’t know. Whether or not Beady Eye sells millions of records is not my concern. I just hope I get to see them tour my country. The music business is still a business with its purpose being to make money. Liam may not need the money, but I’m sure all those people working around him sure do and I bet they are hopeful for at least some moderate success. Why do you think Liam loved being in Oasis? Because the band was successful and they had amazing songs.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 1, 2012 12:31:52 GMT -5
you can't polish a turd
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2012 13:23:35 GMT -5
No it isn't. You clearly know jack all about the music industry and why Noel sold so many albums and played big gigs. When it comes to success the only difference between Noel and Beady Eye was AKA What a Life. And a far better album. In your opinion of course.  |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 1, 2012 14:35:22 GMT -5
In most people's opinion of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 14:51:55 GMT -5
Who cares if they're successful or not? They're only coming off of being in one of the biggest fucking bands of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 15:54:50 GMT -5
Outside songwriting did work for Liam the first time around, but the idea of that now-a-days just sounds ridiculous. I agree that LAG's overall songwriting ability pales in comparison to the quality Oasis fans are used to hearing, but they are what they are at this point.
As long as the albums and songs don't completely suck, then i'll be fine with it. I don't expect too much from it. One more thing to add to the catalogue.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2012 16:36:50 GMT -5
Plastic Geordie are you the worst poster in this section? Yes. Yes I am and I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to everyone for all the useless, troll like, nonsensical posts I have made in the Beady Eye section. Please forgive me.  Acceptance is the first step to recovery. Good luck. |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 1, 2012 16:44:46 GMT -5
I don't believe they need a"hit" in the conventional sense of a hit. That is to say, a high charting single. I think they need "hits" in the context of their own band. What I mean by that is that when I think of a "hit" I don't necessarily think of a big chart topping single, for me it can just be a great song. I consider I Wanna Be Your Dog a "hit", even if it never topped any charts.
In short, they need great "hit" songs, not poor misses.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2012 16:48:19 GMT -5
I just don't think they are capable of it, even if they release the album of the the year. It doesn't always follow that good quality translates to big sale and I'm pretty comfortable with that. I like the small gigs to. If they could add enough fans to do a few arena dates that would be achievement for them.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 1, 2012 22:34:38 GMT -5
Nothing to do with the success. If Noel had released AKA WAL and nine shit songs he would have still had roughly the same level of success. That is such a thin argument. One successful single does not a multi-platinum album make. And let's be realistic...WAL is hardly a mega-hit. Particularly in these iTunes days. People hear a song go on iTunes take a listen to the rest of an album sometimes and then decide whether the album is worth the buy or whether they should buy the one song for a small amount. Gotye has THE biggest song of the past 12 months...and his album has sold less than 225K. Noel has sold 1/7th as many copies of WAL but has shifted 5 times more albums. Heck he is outselling Gotye for 2012 despite Gotye dropping his album this year and Noel having released HFB in 2011 If Noel had released 9 crap songs with WAL then I think WAL would have had more sales and the album would have had less. People don't pay $10 for an album with one worthwhile tune on it. Regardless of personal opinions Noel is generally viewed to have made the better album by both the fans and the media. That is why he has sold quadruple the album IMO. Not one, lets face it, moderately successful single in the context of the current music business |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 1, 2012 22:47:08 GMT -5
^Only thing I would quibble with is that Gotye's Mirror Mirrors was released in August of 2011.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 1, 2012 23:02:42 GMT -5
^Only thing I would quibble with is that Gotye's Mirror Mirrors was released in August of 2011. Not in the UK or the US and I don't know where else. It wasn't released until February 2012 in either of those places. Don't know why but that is what they did. And it's Making Mirrors not Mirror Mirrors |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 2, 2012 3:57:57 GMT -5
Yes. Yes I am and I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to everyone for all the useless, troll like, nonsensical posts I have made in the Beady Eye section. Please forgive me. Acceptance is the first step to recovery. Good luck. Well that sure schooled me. |
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