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Post by thomasdread29 on Aug 16, 2012 10:26:22 GMT -5
It could've been playback of a live take Possibly. There was a ton of echo/reverb on his voice. that's more less what i was talking about... but not only for BE, I'm thinking in the whole ceremony
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 11:00:45 GMT -5
The microphones were live, unless Jeesie J and the like who spoke/shouted/scream during performances mimed the talking aswell...
Just accept Liam sang onstage live
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Post by gdforever on Aug 16, 2012 11:15:05 GMT -5
If the vocals had been recording, even a recording of a live take, I don't think they wouldn't have chosen one where Liam started off so shaky and a bit out of tune.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 16, 2012 11:18:14 GMT -5
Didn't think he was out of tune tbh. The vocal was live, i thought that was pretty obvious.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 16, 2012 11:30:06 GMT -5
The vocals were live. End of discussion. Never though somedy would ask that tbh.
Maybe the spice girls were playback. ;D
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Post by gdforever on Aug 16, 2012 11:32:31 GMT -5
Didn't think he was out of tune tbh. The vocal was live, i thought that was pretty obvious. I think he was. And a bit rushed. But his settled down quick As you say though. Pretty obvious is was live
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 2:56:00 GMT -5
Didn't think he was out of tune tbh. He really was.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 17, 2012 3:42:28 GMT -5
Didn't think he was out of tune tbh. He really was. It wasn't. His voice doesn't always follow but Liam is never out of tune.
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Post by globe on Aug 17, 2012 4:12:14 GMT -5
It wasn't. His voice doesn't always follow but Liam is never out of tune. Are you ears must be painted on?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 17, 2012 4:35:19 GMT -5
Beg your pardon?
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Post by Rolo on Aug 17, 2012 7:47:04 GMT -5
Liam was shaky at the start but he definitely wasn't out of tune.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 8:29:55 GMT -5
No matter how poor Liam's voice is he's actually out of tune very little. Noel sings out of tune more than Liam. Liam was fine at the Olympics apart from the fact his vocals were very nasal
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 17, 2012 8:35:37 GMT -5
No matter how poor Liam's voice is he's actually out of tune very little. Noel sings out of tune more than Liam. Liam was fine at the Olympics apart from the fact his vocals were very nasal I've restrained myself from commenting on the BDI section to lose the troll tag, but that is just ridiculous. Liam has a better rock voice, but no way does he sing more in tune than Noel. That's a retarded statement if ever I heard one.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 17, 2012 9:32:30 GMT -5
No matter how poor Liam's voice is he's actually out of tune very little. Noel sings out of tune more than Liam. Liam was fine at the Olympics apart from the fact his vocals were very nasal I've restrained myself from commenting on the BDI section to lose the troll tag, but that is just ridiculous. Liam has a better rock voice, but no way does he sing more in tune than Noel. That's a retarded statement if ever I heard one. I don't think Noel is often out of tune, but he's vocal are weaks most of the time. He has not much power as soon as there is an electric guitar and drums behind him. He's fine in accoustic but often sings false note, can't get any of the falselto, doen'st have much power. I'll take Liam's nazal vocals every day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 9:33:44 GMT -5
No matter how poor Liam's voice is he's actually out of tune very little. Noel sings out of tune more than Liam. Liam was fine at the Olympics apart from the fact his vocals were very nasal I've restrained myself from commenting on the BDI section to lose the troll tag, but that is just ridiculous. Liam has a better rock voice, but no way does he sing more in tune than Noel. That's a retarded statement if ever I heard one. Noel sings a lot better but he's been flat a couple of times, more so in the 90's he was flat on some records like dyer wanna be a spaceman? and some live versions of DLBIA (electric) have been flat on occasions. Not often like but more often than Liam. Very flat here especially on the first verse...
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Post by headshrinker84 on Aug 17, 2012 10:41:25 GMT -5
Obviously Liam in his prime was miles better than Noel, But now for me Noel is better and is improving all the time. If you compare Noel's vocals from the 90s to now it's a huge step up.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 17, 2012 10:44:19 GMT -5
Obviously Liam in his prime was miles better than Noel, But now for me Noel is better and is improving all the time. If you compare Noel's vocals from the 90s to now it's a huge step up. He has improved A LOT, no doubt. But this isn't amazing He's only great on accoustic, that's where he shines, rest of the time he's mostly flat and drowned under the instruments. I still prefer Liam even on a bad day.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Aug 17, 2012 10:49:30 GMT -5
Obviously Liam in his prime was miles better than Noel, But now for me Noel is better and is improving all the time. If you compare Noel's vocals from the 90s to now it's a huge step up. He has improved A LOT, no doubt. But this isn't amazing He's only great on accoustic, that's where he shines, rest of the time he's mostly flat and drowned under the instruments. I still prefer Liam even on a bad day. That's only one performance. The version of Talk tonight in paris is miles better.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 17, 2012 10:53:02 GMT -5
Obviously Liam in his prime was miles better than Noel, But now for me Noel is better and is improving all the time. If you compare Noel's vocals from the 90s to now it's a huge step up. He has improved A LOT, no doubt. But this isn't amazing He's only great on accoustic, that's where he shines, rest of the time he's mostly flat and drowned under the instruments. I still prefer Liam even on a bad day. Being drowned out by the instruments has mostly do with the mix, not the actual voice. If someone messed with the mix enough at a BDI gig, Liam's voice could be drowned out by the instruments. His voice is fine here. Not great, but certainly not poor. He's only great on acoustic................DLBIA anyone?
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 17, 2012 11:03:27 GMT -5
Liam at his best was much better than Noel in terms of delivery. But Liam at his worst was absolutely shocking. He's so bad here that he just gives up.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 17, 2012 11:03:31 GMT -5
He has improved A LOT, no doubt. But this isn't amazing He's only great on accoustic, that's where he shines, rest of the time he's mostly flat and drowned under the instruments. I still prefer Liam even on a bad day. That's only one performance. The version of Talk tonight in paris is miles better. Ahah, I was at this gig. It wan't better at all, very poor when you were in the audience; It's not only a mix probleme, you can fix a mix problem, Noel is still drowned under instruments.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 17, 2012 11:06:36 GMT -5
That's only one performance. The version of Talk tonight in paris is miles better. Ahah, I was at this gig. It wan't better at all, very poor when you were in the audience; It's not only a mix probleme, you can fix a mix problem, Noel is still drowned under instruments. The mix hasn't been fixed the whole tour? Yes, it's easier to fix a mix, when it's been fixed? Do you actually know how to judge someone vocally? And he definitely sounds perfectly fine in that video.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 17, 2012 11:21:00 GMT -5
The mix hasn't been fixed the whole tour? Yes, it's easier to fix a mix, when it's been fixed? Do you actually know how to judge someone vocally? And he definitely sounds perfectly fine in that video. FFs, if Noel is still drowned under the instruments then the mix isn't the problem. If the mix was the only problem then why it hasn't been fixed by now, why is Noel still drowned under the instruments since 1995? So you're gonna explain to me than you need to write to good song to juge someone vocally now? I thik his vocals are weak most of time, except on accoustic and during DLBIA because he ca handle that one fine. Other than that he never get the faselto o TDOYAM. He makes jokes and has improved but he lacks the charisma his brother bought to the table. HFB are boring to me and Noel's vocal aren't that great. It's my fucking opinion.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 17, 2012 11:33:02 GMT -5
The mix hasn't been fixed the whole tour? Yes, it's easier to fix a mix, when it's been fixed? Do you actually know how to judge someone vocally? And he definitely sounds perfectly fine in that video. FFs, if Noel is still drowned under the instruments then the mix isn't the problem. If the mix was the only problem then why it hasn't been fixed by now, why is Noel still drowned under the instruments since 1995? So you're gonna explain to me than you need to write to good song to juge someone vocally now? I thik his vocals are weak most of time, except on accoustic and during DLBIA because he ca handle that one fine. Other than that he never get the faselto o TDOYAM. He makes jokes and has improved but he lacks the charisma his brother bought to the table. HFB are boring to me and Noel's vocal aren't that great. It's my fucking opinion. No, I just don't think you know how to judge vocals. Insert whatever ideas and motives you want in that. Because it's the mix has never been fixed. The instruments have always been mixed higher than the vocals. It's why Liam had been shouting instead of singing for the last 10 years of Oasis. Are you going to say that he can't sing electric because he gets drowned out and has to shout? Have you actually watched any Oasis gigs? Noel is clearly still going with a mix that mixes the instruments higher....same as in Oasis. BDI have clearly fixed their mix to make it easier on Liam's voice. One of the reasons that Liam's voice has improved, not to mention that Andy and Gem use lower wattage for their amps. Yes, it' your opinion. So stop acting as if it's fact.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 17, 2012 11:35:55 GMT -5
Didn't think he was out of tune tbh. The vocal was live, i thought that was pretty obvious. I think he was. And a bit rushed. But his settled down quick As you say though. Pretty obvious is was live Back to the point of the thread. It was obviously live. I don't think that Liam was out of tune by too much. It wasn't egregious. But he was a tad out of tune.
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