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Post by mossy on Aug 15, 2012 12:32:40 GMT -5
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2012 12:46:03 GMT -5
So they do literally need his permission to even play Oasis songs live.
And somewhere out there there is a re-recorded studio version of Wonderwall.
Interesting insight. I wonder why they didn't cave to him just performing it? I guess once Noel said "no", they probably got a hint from Liam too that he wasn't going to mime either. So rather than lose both Gallagher brothers, they gave into Liam.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 15, 2012 12:59:07 GMT -5
Noel said before that permission was only needed if the arrangement was changed.
You do realize that the Olympics wasn't truly a live performance right? I think he just meant he had to OK the changes of arrangement in the backing tracks.
And he may have had a problem with even miming the guitar bit like Andy and Gem were forced to. I would have imagined that doing to vocals live was always on offer.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2012 13:00:29 GMT -5
And he may have had a problem with even miming the guitar bit like Andy and Gem were forced to. That would have been weird. If he mimed the guitar, but sung.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 13:11:19 GMT -5
And he may have had a problem with even miming the guitar bit like Andy and Gem were forced to. That would have been weird. If he mimed the guitar, but sung. Not really, when oasis did falling down on the TOTP special of 2009, Noel sang over the record
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2012 13:17:25 GMT -5
That would have been weird. If he mimed the guitar, but sung. Not really, when oasis did falling down on the TOTP special of 2009, Noel sang over the record I don't know. That seemed normal because it TOTP and it was for television. But in a stadium full of people....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 13:20:20 GMT -5
Not really, when oasis did falling down on the TOTP special of 2009, Noel sang over the record I don't know. That seemed normal because it TOTP and it was for television. But in a stadium full of people.... That's it though, there was so many people that and elaborate sets going on that it made it impossible to cart all the amps and things around
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 15, 2012 13:54:16 GMT -5
I wonder how BDI feel to be at the mercy of Noel all the time.
Liam: "Please let us play your song Noel. Pretty please."
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Post by Jim on Aug 15, 2012 14:04:08 GMT -5
I wonder how BDI feel to be at the mercy of Noel all the time. Liam: "Please let us play your song Noel. Pretty please." You are getting really boring.
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Post by sebi.white on Aug 15, 2012 18:37:01 GMT -5
Yeah Chris' cymbals were muted, they were two on top of one another, which makes them silent
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2012 18:40:47 GMT -5
I wonder how BDI feel to be at the mercy of Noel all the time. Liam: "Please let us play your song Noel. Pretty please."
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Post by dannybhoy19 on Aug 15, 2012 18:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by LlAM on Aug 16, 2012 5:10:50 GMT -5
You don't need permission to play a song live.
You don't need permission to record a song, as long as it's done in it's original form.
You need permission if you record a song and have changed it compared to the original. (Noel refused the Smurfs to "cover" Wonderwall, he could refuse it because they changed it from it's original form.)
I believe this story is bull.
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Post by jupi on Aug 16, 2012 5:27:28 GMT -5
So they do literally need his permission to even play Oasis songs live. "They had to re-record it and then send it to me. --- I had to say yeah and I was like 'meh... it's alright.... I'm not sure with this new string arrangement" They had to re-record it because they didn't perform it completely live. If they could have played it 100% live, no permissions would have needed. Hmh? What I've read it was a new arrangement of the song. "Liam Gallagher Gem Archer, Andy Bell and Chris Sharrock will perform a new arrangement of the hit."And to quote Noel again: "I'm not sure with this new string arrangement"
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Post by gdforever on Aug 16, 2012 7:02:51 GMT -5
You don't need permission to play a song live. You don't need permission to record a song, as long as it's done in it's original form. You need permission if you record a song and have changed it compared to the original. (Noel refused the Smurfs to "cover" Wonderwall, he could refuse it because they changed it from it's original form.) I believe this story is bull. It very likely true. The strings are different and I think so done of the are the drums.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 16, 2012 7:16:47 GMT -5
You don't need permission to play a song live. You don't need permission to record a song, as long as it's done in it's original form. You need permission if you record a song and have changed it compared to the original. (Noel refused the Smurfs to "cover" Wonderwall, he could refuse it because they changed it from it's original form.) I believe this story is bull. It very likely true. The strings are different and I think so done of the are the drums. Yes that's mainly because of the strings arrangement, it is different. BDI don't need Noel's approval to play it, it's because they've changed it a little. BTW I just love the new string arrangement. I'm starting to hope that BDI will play WW ive at their gigs now that they have in front of the world, but I thik it's unlikely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 7:22:46 GMT -5
New Strings = Paperwork Tings
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Post by thomasdread29 on Aug 16, 2012 7:33:17 GMT -5
I think BE will perform wonderwall in their gigs. I think that's a true possibility.
And for the Olympics I believe it's true that the organization need Noel's permission. And all the act (vocals and music) in the ceremony was playback
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 8:20:55 GMT -5
Vocals werent playback, no chance
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Post by spaneli on Aug 16, 2012 8:25:03 GMT -5
Vocals werent playback, no chance No, his vocals weren't playback. They were definitely live. His vocals definitely have that live sound.
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Post by LlAM on Aug 16, 2012 8:59:20 GMT -5
Vocals werent playback, no chance No, his vocals weren't playback. They were definitely live. His vocals definitely have that live sound. It could've been playback of a live take
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Post by spaneli on Aug 16, 2012 9:02:04 GMT -5
No, his vocals weren't playback. They were definitely live. His vocals definitely have that live sound. It could've been playback of a live take Possibly. There was a ton of echo/reverb on his voice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 9:11:32 GMT -5
Why is there doubt for EVERYTHING on this forum. Liam sang...
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Post by truefaith on Aug 16, 2012 9:16:42 GMT -5
It could've been playback of a live take Possibly. There was a ton of echo/reverb on his voice. What ? No, it was obvisouly live. Otherwise he would have sounded better like he does on album. He sounded good the other night, but "live good", not "record good"
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Post by Rolo on Aug 16, 2012 9:55:45 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that anyone can think Liam mimed his vocal the other night.
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