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Post by Master Wanker on Aug 14, 2012 9:07:08 GMT -5
And if any of you can't tell the difference between Gem playing Wonderwall and Noel playing Wonderwall, then you're obviously not very good fans. You're right. Gem plays the part BETTER. Don't you dare cite stupidity on my part when it is evident to anyone reading this board that you're more than a few shillings short of a pound. I could cite countless reasons as to why your "logic" regarding the songwriter being present is flawed, but it's fairly obvious that I would be wasting my time since you appear to have a severely limited knowledge of the world of music. Not to mention that you completely fail to acknowledge the fact that LG sang the original version of the song and that's all that anyone cares about. You're a man with a fork in a world of soup. Calm down eat a cookie hell eat a box of cookies and have sex but wear a condom  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:08:17 GMT -5
Noel hardly does anything on the record though, his "backing vocals" are more like echoes really and he says like three words a couple of times, it's not really much lacking without it. The only thing that was lacking was Liam's voice to a certain extent but it was still very good for a 39 year old rock star who's been singing for 20 years. But does it not add something? Absolutely it does. Sounds better with than without. I said that it was a good preformance. But there is so much hyperbole here. It's a good version...hardly his best vocal ever. It might even be It does definitely add something I'll give you that but it's not like it needs it, like live forever in 2000 without Noel needed his vocals rather than none at all. Noel on wonderwall does add something but not a great deal. Also I don't know that anyone is under the allusion that it's his best vocal ever... |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:08:42 GMT -5
Disagree with that. Beady Eye were brilliant and it didnt need Noel, or anyone else influence... I second that, it seems gdforever wants Noel to be there for the sake of it I wanted him there for the backing vocals. Or Andy or Gem could have done them. Whatever. The song lacks a little something without backing vocals. Not saying it wasn't good. Liam did Oasis proud |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:09:08 GMT -5
Suppose the thought of 'how to make it better' will always be present in any post-oasis gig. But its abit like saying 'Wind Up Dream would sound better if Eminem provided a verse mid song' it probably would, but it doesnt so therefore its pretty irrelevent.
Id have loved to have seen Brian May pull Jessie Js jumpsuit off during We Will Rock You, he didnt. Such is life.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:10:03 GMT -5
But does it not add something? Absolutely it does. Sounds better with than without. I said that it was a good preformance. But there is so much hyperbole here. It's a good version...hardly his best vocal ever. It might even be It does definitely add something I'll give you that but it's not like it needs it, like live forever in 2000 without Noel needed his vocals rather than none at all. Noel on wonderwall does add something but not a great deal. Also I don't know that anyone is under the allusion that it's his best vocal ever... There were a couple comments. But I am too tired to scroll back. Probably no one of note. |
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 14, 2012 9:11:50 GMT -5
Suppose the thought of 'how to make it better' will always be present in any post-oasis gig. But its abit like saying 'Wind Up Dream would sound better if Eminem provided a verse mid song' it probably would, but it doesnt so therefore its pretty irrelevent. Id have loved to have seen Brian May pull Jessie Js jumpsuit off during We Will Rock You, he didnt. Such is life.Seriously now stop it. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:12:09 GMT -5
I second that, it seems gdforever wants Noel to be there for the sake of it I wanted him there for the backing vocals. Or Andy or Gem could have done them. Whatever. The song lacks a little something without backing vocals. Not saying it wasn't good. Liam did Oasis proud You know that if gem and/or Andy did the backing vocals, they would be criticised by some Noel fanboys for singing his bit (especially Andy). Better without any IMO like morning glory chorus should be left for the crowds to sing in Noel's absence |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:13:27 GMT -5
"e;Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" This is what I was responding to. It does sound different and it does lose a bit of something. FACT. |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 9:14:12 GMT -5
It does definitely add something I'll give you that but it's not like it needs it, like live forever in 2000 without Noel needed his vocals rather than none at all. Noel on wonderwall does add something but not a great deal. Also I don't know that anyone is under the allusion that it's his best vocal ever... There were a couple comments. But I am too tired to scroll back. Probably no one of note. NOBODY said that. Funny how you're always calling people liar and to prove everything they say everytime they exagarate something and now you're the one who's doing it and you're too tired.... |
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Post by Master Wanker on Aug 14, 2012 9:14:15 GMT -5
It was a good performance he really tried but it did miss backing vocals to make the sound richer and less flat in my opinion and also Who the fuck is Andy Bell(seriously electric guitar was mixed way too low) |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:14:25 GMT -5
I wanted him there for the backing vocals. Or Andy or Gem could have done them. Whatever. The song lacks a little something without backing vocals. Not saying it wasn't good. Liam did Oasis proud You know that if gem and/or Andy did the backing vocals, they would be criticised by some Noel fanboys for singing his bit (especially Andy). Better without any IMO like morning glory chorus should be left for the crowds to sing in Noel's absence Agree to disagree. |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 9:17:12 GMT -5
"e;Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" This is what I was responding to. It does sound different and it does lose a bit of something. FACT. It doesn't sound different except for"the saves me" bit. Wich I said in the post you've cut. That's it, there's absolutely no other difference. People complaining about Noel not being there weren't saying that, they were basically saying his heveanly presence makes the song better. But it's a fucking rythm guitar, no difference AT ALL, except for the short backing vocal at the end. And franckly considering the performance I really don't care about them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:18:12 GMT -5
Im going to throw a curveball here and ask the question....
What if Noel was there and his backing vocals were shite?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:19:09 GMT -5
"e;Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" This is what I was responding to. It does sound different and it does lose a bit of something. FACT. Not sure the second part of that is a 'fact' but each to their own. |
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Post by Master Wanker on Aug 14, 2012 9:19:13 GMT -5
Im going to throw a curveball here and ask the question.... What if Noel was there and his backing vocals were shite? call up Bonehead he would nail them after he would solo his ass off  |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:23:18 GMT -5
There were a couple comments. But I am too tired to scroll back. Probably no one of note. NOBODY said that. Funny how you're always calling people liar and to prove everything they say everytime they exagarate something and now you're the one who's doing it and you're too tired.... In your FACE Fucking brilliant! My god as an American I am absolutely jealous at just how massive the musical difference is when comparing the quality of music that you Brits have. As for Beady Eye they just seriously blew all the other live acts out of the water and into the outer limits of space. My god how incredible, Liam's voice was just electrifying and smooth. Liam and the boys really don't need Noel. The performance was quite possibly THE best Wonderwall performance ever so Stepout please shut the hell up about that nonsense your spewing. Good job Beady Eye! I really was too tired. Unlike all your lying when you could couldn't back it up if you tried |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 9:28:38 GMT -5
NOBODY said that. Funny how you're always calling people liar and to prove everything they say everytime they exagarate something and now you're the one who's doing it and you're too tired.... In your FACE Fucking brilliant! My god as an American I am absolutely jealous at just how massive the musical difference is when comparing the quality of music that you Brits have. As for Beady Eye they just seriously blew all the other live acts out of the water and into the outer limits of space. My god how incredible, Liam's voice was just electrifying and smooth. Liam and the boys really don't need Noel. The performance was quite possibly THE best Wonderwall performance ever so Stepout please shut the hell up about that nonsense your spewing. Good job Beady Eye! I really was too tired. Unlike all your lying when you could couldn't back it up if you tried "quite possibly". And nobody noticed this one post and suddenly you come in your high horses to say "stop all to say it was the best wonderwall ever". But whatever... |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:29:24 GMT -5
This is what I was responding to. It does sound different and it does lose a bit of something. FACT. It doesn't sound different except for"the saves me" bit. Wich I said in the post you've cut. That's it, there's absolutely no other difference. You didn't even bother to go back and edit to quote to make that the truth. I think it's normal to not like everything they do or they think. But when I read stuff like "Noel is Oasis", or "Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" or "Bdi is an oasis cover band" I think it's shoking for an Oasis fan to say. To me, it's being a Noel Gallagher fan, and a blind one maybe but not an Oasis fan. (spaneli don't feel the need to anwser me, I won't reply to you anymore, I'm tired of it) |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:31:30 GMT -5
In your FACE I really was too tired. Unlike all your lying when you could couldn't back it up if you tried "quite possibly". And nobody noticed this one post and suddenly you come in your high horses to say "stop all to say it was the best wonderwall ever". But whatever... But NO ONE said it according to you. And I am pretty sure there were a couple others. Already proved my point that you don't even register comments as long as the hyperbole is in favor of BDI. And even if only he said it. That's as many people as said Noel IS Oasis which you felt the need to rant against |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 9:35:23 GMT -5
"quite possibly". And nobody noticed this one post and suddenly you come in your high horses to say "stop all to say it was the best wonderwall ever". But whatever... But NO ONE said it according to you. And I am pretty sure there were a couple others. Already proved my point that you don't even register comments as long as the hyperbole is in favor of BDI. And even if only he said it. That's as many people as said Noel IS Oasis which you felt the need to rant against I've heard the Noel is Oasis or things like that other times in my life and on this board. Would you at least admit that the arrangement /musical orchestration were the best ever for wonderwall live? (eve if it was pre recorded). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:38:16 GMT -5
Andys guitar definitely should have been louder, and that would have made the arrangement even better
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:40:51 GMT -5
But NO ONE said it according to you. And I am pretty sure there were a couple others. Already proved my point that you don't even register comments as long as the hyperbole is in favor of BDI. And even if only he said it. That's as many people as said Noel IS Oasis which you felt the need to rant against I've heard the Noel is Oasis or things like that other times in my life and on this board. Would you at least admit that the arrangement /musical orchestration were the best ever for wonderwall live? (eve if it was pre recorded). What do you want me to say to that? It is definitely the second best studio recorded version of Wonderwall... Electric guitar should have been louder...and with it being pre recorded there is no reason for it to be so low. Strings were beautiful though. Best thing about it was that the barely changed the arrangement. Closest it's ever been to the album version (save using strings instead of a mellotron) I've put in my 8 cents. Go about your business. No point in talking to some that lies and doesn't admit when they have been proven wrong |
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 14, 2012 9:43:03 GMT -5
The melancholy of this thread has been decimated by gdforever One of those people who have to be right all the time justify their existence innit  |
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Aug 14, 2012 9:43:26 GMT -5
"e;Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" This is what I was responding to. It does sound different and it does lose a bit of something. FACT. fact noun 1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. 2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. 3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth. 4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable. 5. Law . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. VS. opinion noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. 2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal. 3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 4. Law . the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case. 5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. Learn the difference. |
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