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Post by downer on Aug 14, 2012 5:51:36 GMT -5
Liam + Noel = Oasis. I think if people dislike one or the other they should go and make a Pro-Liam/Noel forum somewhere else and can slate them to their hearts desire with like-minded people. yeah, but noel choose to not be oasis anymore, so slagging Liam to sing oasis on his own is really poor, as the guy above in the nice long post said. oh and +1 on the fucked up versions Noel is singing on his shows. every oasis song by BDI so far sounded better than noels versions. why? cause Liam is the singer!:-) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 6:09:23 GMT -5
Liam + Noel = Oasis. I think if people dislike one or the other they should go and make a Pro-Liam/Noel forum somewhere else and can slate them to their hearts desire with like-minded people. yeah, but noel choose to not be oasis anymore, so slagging Liam to sing oasis on his own is really poor, as the guy above in the nice long post said. thats what im saying, if people want slag Liam off then go make a new forum to do it in |
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Post by Shakermaker on Aug 14, 2012 6:21:50 GMT -5
KEEP TO THE FACTS ...
I just will not take part in the discussion about how it would have been if Noel would have joined in. FACT IS HE DID NOT.
FACT IS that Beady Eye was there, in a great line up of great names, playing an Oasis song that was put there as one of the most important songs from britain over the last 50 years.
FACT IS that The Who wasn't complete, Kinks weren't Queen wasn't ...etc etc.
FACT IS John Lennon and Freddie Mercury are dead ... but it was still cool to see them "back".
It was a retrospective of British music ... and it was cool to see that.
MY OPINOIN is that Liam looked cool and young, and sung good.
ANd there werent weird Liamisms in front of the eye of the whole world watching... just a good solid performance...
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Aug 14, 2012 7:29:05 GMT -5
Noel should have just done a BDI ft Noel Gallagher thing. Then he could have reformed Oasis for the Olympics, without actually reforming Oasis for the Olympics Right. Because then he wouldn't have absolutely destroyed his flourishing solo career by going back to the band he quit 3 short years ago.  Have you ever met Noel Gallagher? Have you ever even read or watched one of his interviews? The man has a VERY healthy ego and there is no way he would swallow his pride just for the Olympics. Especially when he would not be PAID for his efforts (the performers were paid $1.50 each to perform). If and when NG makes any attempt at reconciliation, it will be to line his pockets and since he seems to be making a healthy living performing solo with only himself as the sole primary beneficiary from album/ticket/t-shirt sales, I wouldn't hold my breath. Noel didn't shoot down the idea of a reunion in 2015, he just said "we'll see" basically. WRONG. Does anybody here do any research, or do you just talk out of your ass? The band's ex-guitarist said his brother was welcome to go ahead and play their seminal album in its entirety, but said he would have no involvement in it.
Gallagher told BBC Newsbeat: "He's got my permission to go and play it. He can play it if he wants. I don't mind. I left that band for a reason and that reason still stands." www.nme.com/news/noel-gallagher/60004To everyone else, thanks for the support. It's nice to know that there are some intelligent, rational posters on this forum. |
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 14, 2012 7:33:26 GMT -5
Hello there. I still consider myself an Oasis fan and I think that BE did a good job on sunday, but that wasn't magical. And yes, that's because of Noel's absence. Noel's presence itself, plus his musical talent, would do that presentation in something unique. Bull. How exactly how would it have been magical? Because a different guy was standing there playing the same acoustic rhythm part played by Gem? It's not a f'ing Hendrix guitar solo. It's an acoustic rhythm guitar. Not to mention that both Gem and Andy (by Noel's own admission) are better players than Noel and the guitar part sounded better than it has in years. What's lost in all of these ridiculous pro Noel comments is the fact that NOEL GALLAGHER left Oasis. He ended the band. Exactly why do "fans" of Oasis hold such animosity towards Beady Eye when Noel is the culprit in pulling the trigger behind the split? He had even left the group on two other occasions (1994, LA and 2000, Barcelona) only to be coaxed back by management. How quickly we forget. Last night, Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye gave a performance of Wonderwall that is the best rendering of the song in more than 15 years. Yet all I read about is how he doesn't sound the same. You're right. He sounds BETTER than he has in a decade. And technically, he sounds better than he did back in '96 at Maine Road when he truncated all his words and barked the lyrics. But most of all, what I absolutely cannot fathom is how those who slag off Beady Eye can actually consider themselves an Oasis "fan" when the bands consists of 4/5 of Oasis final incarnation including the f'ing singer who sang 85% of the song in the Oasis catalogue (the percentage would be MUCH higher if excluding b-sides) while at the same time bowing down to 1/5 of Oasis who is trotting around the world with a bunch of unknown musicians and playing watered down versions of classic Oasis tunes which were sung 10x better by his brother, Liam. Hell, Noel is playing with an American guitar player from Atlanta who BUTCHERS every single Oasis solo that he can get his hands on. But I guess that's fine. I think you're all daft. Oh I dunno. Maybe because Noel wrote the bloody song! If you can't see the distinction between a songwriter playing his own song and singer singing someone else's song, then you might as well go watch X factor. The stupidity on here is incredible sometimes. |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 7:35:03 GMT -5
Bull. How exactly how would it have been magical? Because a different guy was standing there playing the same acoustic rhythm part played by Gem? It's not a f'ing Hendrix guitar solo. It's an acoustic rhythm guitar. Not to mention that both Gem and Andy (by Noel's own admission) are better players than Noel and the guitar part sounded better than it has in years. What's lost in all of these ridiculous pro Noel comments is the fact that NOEL GALLAGHER left Oasis. He ended the band. Exactly why do "fans" of Oasis hold such animosity towards Beady Eye when Noel is the culprit in pulling the trigger behind the split? He had even left the group on two other occasions (1994, LA and 2000, Barcelona) only to be coaxed back by management. How quickly we forget. Last night, Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye gave a performance of Wonderwall that is the best rendering of the song in more than 15 years. Yet all I read about is how he doesn't sound the same. You're right. He sounds BETTER than he has in a decade. And technically, he sounds better than he did back in '96 at Maine Road when he truncated all his words and barked the lyrics. But most of all, what I absolutely cannot fathom is how those who slag off Beady Eye can actually consider themselves an Oasis "fan" when the bands consists of 4/5 of Oasis final incarnation including the f'ing singer who sang 85% of the song in the Oasis catalogue (the percentage would be MUCH higher if excluding b-sides) while at the same time bowing down to 1/5 of Oasis who is trotting around the world with a bunch of unknown musicians and playing watered down versions of classic Oasis tunes which were sung 10x better by his brother, Liam. Hell, Noel is playing with an American guitar player from Atlanta who BUTCHERS every single Oasis solo that he can get his hands on. But I guess that's fine. I think you're all daft. Oh I dunno. Maybe because Noel wrote the bloody song! If you can't see the distinction between a songwriter playing his own song and singer singing someone else's song, then you might as well go watch X factor. The stupidity on here is incredible sometimes. yeah your stupidity. Noel had the opportunity to do it. He turned it down. He coudl'nt be arsed to do it because he's lazy, his promotion is over, it's a lot of work and he was on tour, so many reason maybe but the FACT is he refused to do it. So he wouldn't suddenly changed his minde because BDI was doing it. |
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 14, 2012 7:36:47 GMT -5
And if any of you can't tell the difference between Gem playing Wonderwall and Noel playing Wonderwall, then you're obviously not very good fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 7:45:14 GMT -5
Just watched it again. Liam's performance here is amazing. Makes you really wonder what his problem was back in 2006-2008 with cutting off words. Also, for what it's worth, he looks young and cool again - something we've been unable to say for years while he sported horrid hairstyles! Dunno. Part of me thinks he didn't give a shit, so he sang like shit. Same and I think he was probably drunk or high most of the time and as we saw at fuji rocks, he can't sing AT ALL when drunk, high or on a hangover |
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 14, 2012 7:59:53 GMT -5
Oh I dunno. Maybe because Noel wrote the bloody song! If you can't see the distinction between a songwriter playing his own song and singer singing someone else's song, then you might as well go watch X factor. The stupidity on here is incredible sometimes. yeah your stupidity. Noel had the opportunity to do it. He turned it down. He coudl'nt be arsed to do it because he's lazy, his promotion is over, it's a lot of work and he was on tour, so many reason maybe but the FACT is he refused to do it. So he wouldn't suddenly changed his minde because BDI was doing it. If Noel was offered it and he rejected, then I stand corrected. Besides, I'm not saying BDI did a bad job. I normally lay into Liam at any opportunity, but he did pretty well that night so credit where credit's due. |
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Aug 14, 2012 8:05:17 GMT -5
And if any of you can't tell the difference between Gem playing Wonderwall and Noel playing Wonderwall, then you're obviously not very good fans. You're right. Gem plays the part BETTER. Don't you dare cite stupidity on my part when it is evident to anyone reading this board that you're more than a few shillings short of a pound. I could cite countless reasons as to why your "logic" regarding the songwriter being present is flawed, but it's fairly obvious that I would be wasting my time since you appear to have a severely limited knowledge of the world of music. Not to mention that you completely fail to acknowledge the fact that LG sang the original version of the song and that's all that anyone cares about. You're a man with a fork in a world of soup. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 8:09:17 GMT -5
KEEP TO THE FACTS ... I just will not take part in the discussion about how it would have been if Noel would have joined in. FACT IS HE DID NOT. FACT IS that Beady Eye was there, in a great line up of great names, playing an Oasis song that was put there as one of the most important songs from britain over the last 50 years. FACT IS that The Who wasn't complete, Kinks weren't Queen wasn't ...etc etc. FACT IS John Lennon and Freddie Mercury are dead ... but it was still cool to see them "back". It was a retrospective of British music ... and it was cool to see that. MY OPINOIN is that Liam looked cool and young, and sung good. ANd there werent weird Liamisms in front of the eye of the whole world watching... just a good solid performance... Still love your signature banner!  |
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 14, 2012 8:24:32 GMT -5
Id love to destroy Jessie J, complete abuse shag, spunk in her hair and then just throw her out the house onto the street without her clothes... "we will rock you? Fuck off love" the shut the door on her. That sort of turned me on  Liam smashed it up there, bit nasally but he stayed in tune and didn't make a twat of himself, not much you could ask for really, maybe Noel on backing but y'know you can't win 'em all, sad to see the games over so fucking soon! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 8:28:22 GMT -5
Id love to destroy Jessie J, complete abuse shag, spunk in her hair and then just throw her out the house onto the street without her clothes... "we will rock you? Fuck off love" the shut the door on her. That sort of turned me on LOL ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 8:29:23 GMT -5
Bull. How exactly how would it have been magical? Because a different guy was standing there playing the same acoustic rhythm part played by Gem? It's not a f'ing Hendrix guitar solo. It's an acoustic rhythm guitar. Not to mention that both Gem and Andy (by Noel's own admission) are better players than Noel and the guitar part sounded better than it has in years. What's lost in all of these ridiculous pro Noel comments is the fact that NOEL GALLAGHER left Oasis. He ended the band. Exactly why do "fans" of Oasis hold such animosity towards Beady Eye when Noel is the culprit in pulling the trigger behind the split? He had even left the group on two other occasions (1994, LA and 2000, Barcelona) only to be coaxed back by management. How quickly we forget. Last night, Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye gave a performance of Wonderwall that is the best rendering of the song in more than 15 years. Yet all I read about is how he doesn't sound the same. You're right. He sounds BETTER than he has in a decade. And technically, he sounds better than he did back in '96 at Maine Road when he truncated all his words and barked the lyrics. But most of all, what I absolutely cannot fathom is how those who slag off Beady Eye can actually consider themselves an Oasis "fan" when the bands consists of 4/5 of Oasis final incarnation including the f'ing singer who sang 85% of the song in the Oasis catalogue (the percentage would be MUCH higher if excluding b-sides) while at the same time bowing down to 1/5 of Oasis who is trotting around the world with a bunch of unknown musicians and playing watered down versions of classic Oasis tunes which were sung 10x better by his brother, Liam. Hell, Noel is playing with an American guitar player from Atlanta who BUTCHERS every single Oasis solo that he can get his hands on. But I guess that's fine. I think you're all daft. best post ever. |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 8:35:08 GMT -5
How can a fan honestly say that it didn't lack anything without Noel? Screw all the "songwriter" stuff
The backing vocals were missing. And the song would have been better if it had had those. I know that we all like Liam. And we are impressed with his vocal performance but to say that it didn't lack anything? Don't be ridiculous. Just like Morning Glory lacks something live now.
Also...can people stop praising the band for their performance? They mimed to a backing track...of course they sounded spot on. Which makes the fact that the electric guitar part that Andy was miming being mixed too low pretty disappointing.
As for people wishing Liam wouldn't have done it. Whatever. No one is changing their opinion.
I don't think that the Gallagher's (either of them) should be playing Oasis songs. It's a good performance...I really enjoyed it. Still wish they wouldn't have done it.
And his vocal performance was good, considering his current voice. But it was nasally and pitchy at times so everyone saying it was the best performance of Wonderwall ever. Yeah...right...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 8:43:18 GMT -5
How can a fan honestly say that it didn't lack anything without Noel? Screw all the "songwriter" stuff The backing vocals were missing. And the song would have been better if it had had those. I know that we all like Liam. And we are impressed with his vocal performance but to say that it didn't lack anything? Don't be ridiculous. Just like Morning Glory lacks something live now. Also...can people stop praising the band for their performance? They mimed to a backing track...of course they sounded spot on. Which makes the fact that the electric guitar part that Andy was miming being mixed too low pretty disappointing. Noel hardly does anything on the record though, his "backing vocals" are more like echoes really and he says like three words a couple of times, it's not really much lacking without it. The only thing that was lacking was Liam's voice to a certain extent but it was still very good for a 39 year old rock star who's been singing for 20 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 8:48:01 GMT -5
I don't think that the Gallagher's (either of them) should be playing Oasis songs.  Even Noel? Where would Noel be now if he didn't do don't look back in anger live. I can see the issues with liam doing oasis songs to an extent but Noel? Those songs are absolute tunes and should be played by both Liam and Noel IMO, especially Noel as the writer |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 8:49:22 GMT -5
I don't think that the Gallagher's (either of them) should be playing Oasis songs. It's a good performance...I really enjoyed it. Still wish they wouldn't have done it. ahaha that doesn't make any sense. And his vocal performance was good, considering his current voice. But it was nasally and pitchy at times so everyone saying it was the best performance of Wonderwall ever. Yeah...right... Nobody said that. People said it was the best performance IN years. Big difference. But the string, the live orchestration is the best ever for wonderwall, even maine road arrangeùment wasn't that perfect IMO. Vocally it was the best in years. So combined it was really great. Personnally I feel like I've heard wonderwall live for the first time since 2009 and it's great because Ryan Adam's version Noel's playing doesn't do much for me. |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 8:50:42 GMT -5
How can a fan honestly say that it didn't lack anything without Noel? Screw all the "songwriter" stuff The backing vocals were missing. And the song would have been better if it had had those. I know that we all like Liam. And we are impressed with his vocal performance but to say that it didn't lack anything? Don't be ridiculous. Just like Morning Glory lacks something live now. Also...can people stop praising the band for their performance? They mimed to a backing track...of course they sounded spot on. Which makes the fact that the electric guitar part that Andy was miming being mixed too low pretty disappointing. Noel hardly does anything on the record though, his "backing vocals" are more like echoes really and he says like three words a couple of times, it's not really much lacking without it. The only thing that was lacking was Liam's voice to a certain extent but it was still very good for a 39 year old rock star who's been singing for 20 years. Actually, ground breaking fact. Noel doesn't sing backing vocals on the records. Listen to a acapella version of it on youtube, it's clearly Liam's voice. |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 8:59:12 GMT -5
How can a fan honestly say that it didn't lack anything without Noel? Screw all the "songwriter" stuff The backing vocals were missing. And the song would have been better if it had had those. I know that we all like Liam. And we are impressed with his vocal performance but to say that it didn't lack anything? Don't be ridiculous. Just like Morning Glory lacks something live now. Also...can people stop praising the band for their performance? They mimed to a backing track...of course they sounded spot on. Which makes the fact that the electric guitar part that Andy was miming being mixed too low pretty disappointing. Noel hardly does anything on the record though, his "backing vocals" are more like echoes really and he says like three words a couple of times, it's not really much lacking without it. The only thing that was lacking was Liam's voice to a certain extent but it was still very good for a 39 year old rock star who's been singing for 20 years. But does it not add something? Absolutely it does. Sounds better with than without. I said that it was a good preformance. But there is so much hyperbole here. It's a good version...hardly his best vocal ever. It might even be |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Aug 14, 2012 8:59:16 GMT -5
I'll echo the sentiment that it was cool to see(after quite a long time) this forum act and respond in unison to the performance by Liam and co. Us the fans appreciated it, and it was nice reading all the comments on here, Unfortunately we can always count on a couple of retards--even MODERATORS-- to still find a way to be critical(and not in a constructive way) and post about how "Noel is Oasis" and other nonsense like that. Pathetic but at least we know who we're dealing with, not that we didn't before. It's just that last night it became more evident than ever. Did I hurt your feelings?? My feelings? I don't think you're capable of hurting anyone's feelings, certainly not any guy's, and certainly not with that face, lol No, it's just funny that someone with such a strong bias is a moderator. But hey, it's kinda cool that this whole message board is sort of upside down huh? I mean, you as moderator can say "Noel is Oasis" but then again, anyone can call you an asswipe, cos well, you are one... And everything just stays the course  |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2012 9:00:18 GMT -5
Noel hardly does anything on the record though, his "backing vocals" are more like echoes really and he says like three words a couple of times, it's not really much lacking without it. The only thing that was lacking was Liam's voice to a certain extent but it was still very good for a 39 year old rock star who's been singing for 20 years. Actually, ground breaking fact. Noel doesn't sing backing vocals on the records. Listen to a acapella version of it on youtube, it's clearly Liam's voice. Interesting But this is live...not on record. And there weren't any backing vocal Liam or otherwise. |
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Post by welshylad on Aug 14, 2012 9:00:53 GMT -5
I always thought it was Noel on backing vocals too, learn something new everyday |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:01:32 GMT -5
How can a fan honestly say that it didn't lack anything without Noel? Screw all the "songwriter" stuff The backing vocals were missing. And the song would have been better if it had had those. I know that we all like Liam. And we are impressed with his vocal performance but to say that it didn't lack anything? Don't be ridiculous. Just like Morning Glory lacks something live now. Also...can people stop praising the band for their performance? They mimed to a backing track...of course they sounded spot on. Which makes the fact that the electric guitar part that Andy was miming being mixed too low pretty disappointing. As for people wishing Liam wouldn't have done it. Whatever. No one is changing their opinion. I don't think that the Gallagher's (either of them) should be playing Oasis songs. It's a good performance...I really enjoyed it. Still wish they wouldn't have done it. And his vocal performance was good, considering his current voice. But it was nasally and pitchy at times so everyone saying it was the best performance of Wonderwall ever. Yeah...right... Disagree with that. Beady Eye were brilliant and it didnt need Noel, or anyone else influence... |
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 14, 2012 9:05:36 GMT -5
How can a fan honestly say that it didn't lack anything without Noel? Screw all the "songwriter" stuff The backing vocals were missing. And the song would have been better if it had had those. I know that we all like Liam. And we are impressed with his vocal performance but to say that it didn't lack anything? Don't be ridiculous. Just like Morning Glory lacks something live now. Also...can people stop praising the band for their performance? They mimed to a backing track...of course they sounded spot on. Which makes the fact that the electric guitar part that Andy was miming being mixed too low pretty disappointing. As for people wishing Liam wouldn't have done it. Whatever. No one is changing their opinion. I don't think that the Gallagher's (either of them) should be playing Oasis songs. It's a good performance...I really enjoyed it. Still wish they wouldn't have done it. And his vocal performance was good, considering his current voice. But it was nasally and pitchy at times so everyone saying it was the best performance of Wonderwall ever. Yeah...right... Disagree with that. Beady Eye were brilliant and it didnt need Noel, or anyone else influence... I second that, it seems gdforever wants Noel to be there for the sake of it |
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