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Post by Silence Dogood on Aug 13, 2012 21:14:28 GMT -5
And there it is... lol
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Post by spaneli on Aug 13, 2012 21:16:27 GMT -5
Just watched it again. Liam's performance here is amazing. Makes you really wonder what his problem was back in 2006-2008 with cutting off words. Also, for what it's worth, he looks young and cool again - something we've been unable to say for years while he sported horrid hairstyles! Dunno. Part of me thinks he didn't give a shit, so he sang like shit. I'd like to think that he did his best every performance, but every time I think, "it looks like he really tried last night" I have to follow up with, "Not that he didn't try before." It's becoming increasingly harder to keep saying that. I think he usually gave his best effort and I'm just going to assume that he gave an extra special effort. One of those moments where you do more than even you can think you can do. But he definitely tried harder last night. I don't know what that says about the previous times he's performed, but he definitely tried much harder for this one. |
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Post by StepOut on Aug 13, 2012 21:18:16 GMT -5
I'll echo the sentiment that it was cool to see(after quite a long time) this forum act and respond in unison to the performance by Liam and co. Us the fans appreciated it, and it was nice reading all the comments on here, Unfortunately we can always count on a couple of retards--even MODERATORS-- to still find a way to be critical(and not in a constructive way) and post about how "Noel is Oasis" and other nonsense like that. Pathetic but at least we know who we're dealing with, not that we didn't before. It's just that last night it became more evident than ever. Did I hurt your feelings?? |
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Post by StepOut on Aug 13, 2012 21:19:57 GMT -5
Dunno. Part of me thinks he didn't give a shit, so he sang like shit. I'd like to think that he did his best every performance, but every time I think, "it looks like he really tried last night" I have to follow up with, "Not that he didn't try before." It's becoming increasingly harder to keep saying that. I think he usually gave his best effort and I'm just going to assume that he gave an extra special effort. One of those moments where you do more than even you can think you can do. But he definitely tried harder last night. I don't know what that says about the previous times he's performed, but he definitely tried much harder for this one. His vocal performances during the Beady Eye tour compared to the last few years in Oasis says it all. He never took care of his voice when he was in Oasis. |
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Post by StepOut on Aug 13, 2012 21:22:27 GMT -5
I'll echo the sentiment that it was cool to see(after quite a long time) this forum act and respond in unison to the performance by Liam and co. Us the fans appreciated it, and it was nice reading all the comments on here, Unfortunately we can always count on a couple of retards--even MODERATORS-- to still find a way to be critical(and not in a constructive way) and post about how "Noel is Oasis" and other nonsense like that. Pathetic but at least we know who we're dealing with, not that we didn't before. It's just that last night it became more evident than ever. so I'm a retard? |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 13, 2012 21:23:11 GMT -5
I'd like to think that he did his best every performance, but every time I think, "it looks like he really tried last night" I have to follow up with, "Not that he didn't try before." It's becoming increasingly harder to keep saying that. I think he usually gave his best effort and I'm just going to assume that he gave an extra special effort. One of those moments where you do more than even you can think you can do. But he definitely tried harder last night. I don't know what that says about the previous times he's performed, but he definitely tried much harder for this one. His vocal performances during the Beady Eye tour compared to the last few years in Oasis says it all. He never took care of his voice when he was in Oasis. Yeah, I guess. It seems as if he really took better care of his voice once he left Oasis. Maybe Oasis breaking up was the wake-up call that he needed to really take his voice seriously. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 13, 2012 21:30:20 GMT -5
His vocal performances during the Beady Eye tour compared to the last few years in Oasis says it all. He never took care of his voice when he was in Oasis. Yeah, I guess. It seems as if he really took better care of his voice once he left Oasis. Maybe Oasis breaking up was the wake-up call that he needed to really take his voice seriously. I don't think he's done a huge amount, i'm not sure there is much he can actually do. I just think he has adapted his style to his current abilities. He was poor at times in the latter part of Oasis but I think singing those same songs every night with the same conviction and attention was a problem. |
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Post by thomasdread29 on Aug 13, 2012 21:30:44 GMT -5
Hello there. I still consider myself an Oasis fan and I think that BE did a good job on sunday, but that wasn't magical.
And yes, that's because of Noel's absence.
Noel's presence itself, plus his musical talent, would do that presentation in something unique.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 13, 2012 23:12:38 GMT -5
Hello there. I still consider myself an Oasis fan and I think that BE did a good job on sunday, but that wasn't magical. And yes, that's because of Noel's absence. Noel's presence itself, plus his musical talent, would do that presentation in something unique. Noel, is that you? |
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Aug 13, 2012 23:18:44 GMT -5
Hello there. I still consider myself an Oasis fan and I think that BE did a good job on sunday, but that wasn't magical. And yes, that's because of Noel's absence. Noel's presence itself, plus his musical talent, would do that presentation in something unique. Bull. How exactly how would it have been magical? Because a different guy was standing there playing the same acoustic rhythm part played by Gem? It's not a f'ing Hendrix guitar solo. It's an acoustic rhythm guitar. Not to mention that both Gem and Andy (by Noel's own admission) are better players than Noel and the guitar part sounded better than it has in years. What's lost in all of these ridiculous pro Noel comments is the fact that NOEL GALLAGHER left Oasis. He ended the band. Exactly why do "fans" of Oasis hold such animosity towards Beady Eye when Noel is the culprit in pulling the trigger behind the split? He had even left the group on two other occasions (1994, LA and 2000, Barcelona) only to be coaxed back by management. How quickly we forget. Last night, Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye gave a performance of Wonderwall that is the best rendering of the song in more than 15 years. Yet all I read about is how he doesn't sound the same. You're right. He sounds BETTER than he has in a decade. And technically, he sounds better than he did back in '96 at Maine Road when he truncated all his words and barked the lyrics. But most of all, what I absolutely cannot fathom is how those who slag off Beady Eye can actually consider themselves an Oasis "fan" when the bands consists of 4/5 of Oasis final incarnation including the f'ing singer who sang 85% of the song in the Oasis catalogue (the percentage would be MUCH higher if excluding b-sides) while at the same time bowing down to 1/5 of Oasis who is trotting around the world with a bunch of unknown musicians and playing watered down versions of classic Oasis tunes which were sung 10x better by his brother, Liam. Hell, Noel is playing with an American guitar player from Atlanta who BUTCHERS every single Oasis solo that he can get his hands on. But I guess that's fine. I think you're all daft. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 23:29:41 GMT -5
It would of been magical because it would of been Oasis! Noel wouldn't of added anything else though. Beady Eye are a very capable band and I'd obviously take them any day over Noel's backing band.
For the record, I thought it was amazing. They did the song justice and it was really the only performance that I enjoyed (thanks to NBC cutting out Ray Davies and The Who and the lack of close ups of the Spice Girls ;D)
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Aug 13, 2012 23:37:29 GMT -5
It would of been magical because it would of been Oasis! Noel wouldn't of added anything else though. Beady Eye are a very capable band and I'd obviously take them any day over Noel's backing band. Fair enough except for one problem: Oasis is DEAD. Over. Move on. Liam attempted to reconcile by citing 2015 and WTSMG. NG shot it down. End of story. "It's just natural, it's not a great disaster. People keep talking about it like it's The End of The Earth. It's only a rock group that split up, it's nothing important. You know, you have all the old records there if you want to reminisce." - Lennon, John |
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 13, 2012 23:48:44 GMT -5
Noel should have just done a BDI ft Noel Gallagher thing. Then he could have reformed Oasis for the Olympics, without actually reforming Oasis for the Olympics
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 23:55:17 GMT -5
It would of been magical because it would of been Oasis! Noel wouldn't of added anything else though. Beady Eye are a very capable band and I'd obviously take them any day over Noel's backing band. Fair enough except for one problem: Oasis is DEAD. Over. Move on. Liam attempted to reconcile by citing 2015 and WTSMG. NG shot it down. End of story. "It's just natural, it's not a great disaster. People keep talking about it like it's The End of The Earth. It's only a rock group that split up, it's nothing important. You know, you have all the old records there if you want to reminisce." - Lennon, John Well, that's why it would of been special. Is that so hard to understand? |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 13, 2012 23:58:17 GMT -5
Noel should have just done a BDI ft Noel Gallagher thing. Then he could have reformed Oasis for the Olympics, without actually reforming Oasis for the Olympics Yeah...kind of a distinction with out a difference isn't that? Noel and Liam are Oasis. They could have called themselves anything and people still would have called it an Oasis reunion. |
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Post by CFC2013 on Aug 14, 2012 0:06:00 GMT -5
Noel didn't shoot down the idea of a reunion in 2015, he just said "we'll see" basically.
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Post by forestfan on Aug 14, 2012 1:00:24 GMT -5
here is the telegraph review about liam being off key-someone wanted a link- "There were some clear flaws: the obvious absence of top-drawer stars like Kate Bush and David Bowie glaring when their music was used. And where the stars were present there were way too many mediocre moments. George Michael gyrating to Freedom was perfect but allowing him to play an unknown and unremarkable current hit was a wasted slot and Annie Lennox was utterly underwhelming. The psychedelic section with Ed Sheeran playing Pink Floyd and Russell Brand doing a karaoke Beatles was too slow and Liam Gallagher was nasal and off key. The whole affair didn’t feel whittled down but rather way too long. If anything, the Closing Ceremony was not uplifting or cheesy enough apart from the Spice Girls who got the exuberant tone exactly right. Rio’s musical montage featuring Seu Jorge and Pele also hit the right buttons with its mix of sultry bossa nova, tribal rhythms and sequined samba." www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopreviews/9467519/Olympic-Closing-Ceremony-London-2012-review.html |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 3:32:19 GMT -5
Bull. How exactly how would it have been magical? Because a different guy was standing there playing the same acoustic rhythm part played by Gem? It's not a f'ing Hendrix guitar solo. It's an acoustic rhythm guitar. Not to mention that both Gem and Andy (by Noel's own admission) are better players than Noel and the guitar part sounded better than it has in years. What's lost in all of these ridiculous pro Noel comments is the fact that NOEL GALLAGHER left Oasis. He ended the band. Exactly why do "fans" of Oasis hold such animosity towards Beady Eye when Noel is the culprit in pulling the trigger behind the split? He had even left the group on two other occasions (1994, LA and 2000, Barcelona) only to be coaxed back by management. How quickly we forget. Last night, Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye gave a performance of Wonderwall that is the best rendering of the song in more than 15 years. Yet all I read about is how he doesn't sound the same. You're right. He sounds BETTER than he has in a decade. And technically, he sounds better than he did back in '96 at Maine Road when he truncated all his words and barked the lyrics. But most of all, what I absolutely cannot fathom is how those who slag off Beady Eye can actually consider themselves an Oasis "fan" when the bands consists of 4/5 of Oasis final incarnation including the f'ing singer who sang 85% of the song in the Oasis catalogue (the percentage would be MUCH higher if excluding b-sides) while at the same time bowing down to 1/5 of Oasis who is trotting around the world with a bunch of unknown musicians and playing watered down versions of classic Oasis tunes which were sung 10x better by his brother, Liam. Hell, Noel is playing with an American guitar player from Atlanta who BUTCHERS every single Oasis solo that he can get his hands on. But I guess that's fine. I think you're all daft. best post ever. |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 4:49:05 GMT -5
Bull. How exactly how would it have been magical? Because a different guy was standing there playing the same acoustic rhythm part played by Gem? It's not a f'ing Hendrix guitar solo. It's an acoustic rhythm guitar. Not to mention that both Gem and Andy (by Noel's own admission) are better players than Noel and the guitar part sounded better than it has in years. What's lost in all of these ridiculous pro Noel comments is the fact that NOEL GALLAGHER left Oasis. He ended the band. Exactly why do "fans" of Oasis hold such animosity towards Beady Eye when Noel is the culprit in pulling the trigger behind the split? He had even left the group on two other occasions (1994, LA and 2000, Barcelona) only to be coaxed back by management. How quickly we forget. Last night, Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye gave a performance of Wonderwall that is the best rendering of the song in more than 15 years. Yet all I read about is how he doesn't sound the same. You're right. He sounds BETTER than he has in a decade. And technically, he sounds better than he did back in '96 at Maine Road when he truncated all his words and barked the lyrics. But most of all, what I absolutely cannot fathom is how those who slag off Beady Eye can actually consider themselves an Oasis "fan" when the bands consists of 4/5 of Oasis final incarnation including the f'ing singer who sang 85% of the song in the Oasis catalogue (the percentage would be MUCH higher if excluding b-sides) while at the same time bowing down to 1/5 of Oasis who is trotting around the world with a bunch of unknown musicians and playing watered down versions of classic Oasis tunes which were sung 10x better by his brother, Liam. Hell, Noel is playing with an American guitar player from Atlanta who BUTCHERS every single Oasis solo that he can get his hands on. But I guess that's fine. I think you're all daft. best post ever. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Aug 14, 2012 5:04:29 GMT -5
best post by miles too. don't know the meaningless liam butchering by the press and by the so called fans. i love both gallaghers and i know, that both had made decisions, which were quiet stupid, but they made some of the best songs ever for me and liam made noels tunes to oasis songs. so everybody should respect both. everybody says liam needs noel, but noel would be nowhere near his success withough liams voice and press loved behaviour. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 5:08:59 GMT -5
Liam + Noel = Oasis. I think if people dislike one or the other they should go and make a Pro-Liam/Noel forum somewhere else and can slate them to their hearts desire with like-minded people.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 5:20:22 GMT -5
Liam + Noel = Oasis. I think if people dislike one or the other they should go and make a Pro-Liam/Noel forum somewhere else and can slate them to their hearts desire with like-minded people. I think it's normal to not like everything they do or they think. But when I read stuff like "Noel is Oasis", or "Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" or "Bdi is an oasis cover band" I think it's shoking for an Oasis fan to say. To me, it's being a Noel Gallagher fan, and a blind one maybe but not an Oasis fan. (spaneli don't feel the need to anwser me, I won't reply to you anymore, I'm tired of it) |
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Post by globe on Aug 14, 2012 5:31:59 GMT -5
I'll echo the sentiment that it was cool to see(after quite a long time) this forum act and respond in unison to the performance by Liam and co. Us the fans appreciated it, and it was nice reading all the comments on here, Unfortunately we can always count on a couple of retards--even MODERATORS-- to still find a way to be critical(and not in a constructive way) and post about how "Noel is Oasis" and other nonsense like that. Pathetic but at least we know who we're dealing with, not that we didn't before. It's just that last night it became more evident than ever. Stiy aff the drugs pal. |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Aug 14, 2012 5:40:43 GMT -5
Liam + Noel = Oasis. I think if people dislike one or the other they should go and make a Pro-Liam/Noel forum somewhere else and can slate them to their hearts desire with like-minded people. I think it's normal to not like everything they do or they think. But when I read stuff like "Noel is Oasis", or "Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" or "Bdi is an oasis cover band" I think it's shoking for an Oasis fan to say. To me, it's being a Noel Gallagher fan, and a blind one maybe but not an Oasis fan. (spaneli don't feel the need to anwser me, I won't reply to you anymore, I'm tired of it) What about people like you who are clearly a blind Liam Gallagher fan? |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 14, 2012 5:45:58 GMT -5
I think it's normal to not like everything they do or they think. But when I read stuff like "Noel is Oasis", or "Wonderwall doesn't sound the same without noel there" or "Bdi is an oasis cover band" I think it's shoking for an Oasis fan to say. To me, it's being a Noel Gallagher fan, and a blind one maybe but not an Oasis fan. (spaneli don't feel the need to anwser me, I won't reply to you anymore, I'm tired of it) What about people like you who are clearly a blind Liam Gallagher fan? I'm not sorry. I love and support Noel's music. I've never said things like "Liam is Oasis" or suff like that. And if Noel had done the olympics I would have been happy too. I prefer Liam but I love them both and see both their falws. Noel zombies usualy have a weird vendetta against Liam and even against poor Andy Bell since Noel started to slate him. |
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