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Post by Rolo on Jul 6, 2012 7:53:33 GMT -5
Lets go back to the end of the DBTT tour in Argentina in 2006 which was perhaps the worst vocal performance Liam has ever given, it really was hard to listen to: I mean, that doesn't even sound like Liam and I thought at the time we would never hear him sing properly again. Then the DOYS started and there was a massive improvement clearly, he wasn't cutting off his words as much and the slurring of words had gone but it still wasn't amazing: Then we got the start of the Beady Eye tour where Liam gave some of his best vocal performances of the past 10 years easily and only tired really towards the last 3 months of the tour which was great: And now with the most recent gigs of Warrington and Heaton Park Liam has improved even more, his vocals are on par with 2000 in my opinion, I actually prefer them to the 2000 era: Amazing. If you compare the first video in 2006 to the last couple in 2012 it's amazing really what he's done with his voice to get it back to this quality and he deserves a lot more credit than he gets I think. Welcome back Liam Gallagher  |
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 6, 2012 8:00:23 GMT -5
he did around 120 shows on the dbtt tour and the gig in brazil was near at the end of this. you can't hardly compare those performances. on the other hand the warrington gig was the first gig for liam in a while so it's easy to pull it off right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 8:00:46 GMT -5
Jesus, that 2006 one is awful!
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Post by Rolo on Jul 6, 2012 8:06:58 GMT -5
he did around 120 shows on the dbtt tour and the gig in brazil was near at the end of this. you can't hardly compare those performances. on the other hand the warrington gig was the first gig for liam in a while so it's easy to pull it off right. It's not as if he was great at the start of the DBTT tour though was it? He was struggling from the start. Look at Glastonbury 2004, he had a big break after the Heathen Chemistry tour but he came back sounding worse so I think that's harsh to take anything away from his recent vocal performances.. He sounds incredible at the latest shows. |
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Post by hypermyth on Jul 6, 2012 8:08:41 GMT -5
his voice has improved fur sure , but even in 00-02 he used to sing very good imo. he did shit gigs but also great gig . 06 was the worst year for liam 's voice
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Post by twineesi on Jul 6, 2012 8:22:45 GMT -5
Liam's voice always goes shit at the end of tours.
Its not that its improved its more a case of getting worse over the tour schedule
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 10:05:03 GMT -5
Liam's voice always goes shit at the end of tours. Its not that its improved its more a case of getting worse over the tour schedule No but listen to his vocals from the early gigs like Barrowlands, Troxy and the Manchester Apollo and his vocal was absolutely amazing. Sure SOTEOTN gig in 2008 was alright but only compared to the rest of the tour which was pretty appalling, his singing was ok but he seemed to have lost the power in his voice, struggling to sing over the guitars. 2005 was ok at times with less cutting of notes and much less shouting than in 2008 but he slurred his words a lot, listen to the Manchester city stadium gig and although his vocals are alright the words are really unclear. Liam seemed to lose the power in his voice at 2002, maybe even 2000 and while I think Liam was a better "singer" in 2000 (can't see Liam pulling off roll it over or lets all make believe now) I think he has a better rock voice now with just raw power. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 6, 2012 10:59:37 GMT -5
all that talk about his voice is getting way too fucking boring.
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Post by Mr. Sifter on Jul 6, 2012 11:11:06 GMT -5
Liam's voice always goes shit at the end of tours. Its not that its improved its more a case of getting worse over the tour schedule I agree that's been the case the last like 15 years. But I think his voice held up amazingly well during the BE tour last year. I think his vocals at the Wiltern were great consideringthey had been touring for almost 9 months. One of my favourite gigs of theirs last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 11:26:19 GMT -5
Start of DBTT Tour infront of 150 people..
End of DBTT Tour infornt of 40,000..
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Post by alwaysnow on Jul 6, 2012 11:40:59 GMT -5
It's something that's hard to prove, you'd have to listen the whole tour and somehow make an average of how Liam sounded. But really, from my experience as a fan, I agree with you, Liam has really been improving ever since the start of the DOYS tour.
Having said that, I think the SOTSOG era doesn't get the credit it deserves. Liam sounded really good throughout that tour, and the high points are really high, perfect combination of 'raspiness' and youth, in my opinion, such as here:
During the Heathen Chemistry Tour you start hearing his voice getting hoarse, but he still sounded pretty good.
Glastonbury 2004 I think is the beginning of a very difficult era for Liam's voice, going up until the end of the DBTT tour. Luckily, I don't think we've ever heard him as bad again. Except for a few gigs, he didn't sound good at all.
I think this was the best we could get from him during that time:
During the DOYS tour, the improvement was evident, especially in the beginning, but his voice again started deteriorating and he didn't sound too good towards the end. He had his ups and downs... it was still much better than the DBTT tour, but he still was rather inconsistent. He still had high points such as this:
If he had started to take care of his voice after the DBTT, it became clear he was making and even better effort after Oasis broke up. I think his pride pushed him into taking care of his voice and giving the best performances he could with Beady Eye. The DGSS tour was even better than DOYS, imo, and you could argue that he had his best performances since 2000. The only complaint I have is that he sounded way too nasal at times, and his voice a bit weak, but it's like he went back to basics and started singing again, instead of shouting. And what's more important, even though his voice was better in the beginning of the tour, he was more consistent. This was eight months in the tour, still pretty good:
And the last couple of shows, he has sounded brilliant. He sounds more powerful and less nasal, and the Oasis songs they've played are good indication that it's not just because the BE songs are 'tailored for his voice'. This can't be compared with the tours before, but I really hope this is a preview of what we could expect from the next BE tour. If he continues to improve, that would make me very happy.
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Post by rupertg on Jul 6, 2012 11:53:34 GMT -5
did anyone catch the Pain It Black intro?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 11:56:22 GMT -5
all that talk about his voice is getting way too fucking boring. why are you reading about it then? |
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Post by rupertg on Jul 6, 2012 12:04:01 GMT -5
i'm not sure what's worse Liam's voice or Zak's sloppy drumming on the Acquiesce Live in Argentina 2006 vid
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 6, 2012 14:29:02 GMT -5
i'm not sure what's worse Liam's voice or Zak's sloppy drumming on the Acquiesce Live in Argentina 2006 vid ;D even if most people say Heathen Chemistry was their lowest point and Don't Believe The Truth was THE comeback album, I think it was their bad years - nevermind the whole tour being sold out. Liam never sounded/looked that awful. drumming was bland as fuck. Andy Bell wrote Keep The Dream Alive. Liam's b-sides were the most boring songs every played. anyway, I'm getting drunk. cheers |
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Post by deasy on Jul 6, 2012 14:48:37 GMT -5
;D even if most people say Heathen Chemistry was their lowest point and Don't Believe The Truth was THE comeback album, I think it was their bad years - nevermind the whole tour being sold out. Liam never sounded/looked that awful. drumming was bland as fuck. Andy Bell wrote Keep The Dream Alive. Liam's b-sides were the most boring songs every played. anyway, I'm getting drunk. cheers Just the mention of that song makes me shiver with despair  |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 6, 2012 15:13:36 GMT -5
I don't mind KTDA. Love Like A Bomb gives me cold sweats though.
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Post by GIMH on Jul 6, 2012 15:44:05 GMT -5
All songs on DBTT are ace
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Post by truefaith on Jul 6, 2012 17:27:55 GMT -5
i'm not sure what's worse Liam's voice or Zak's sloppy drumming on the Acquiesce Live in Argentina 2006 vid ;D even if most people say Heathen Chemistry was their lowest point and Don't Believe The Truth was THE comeback album, I think it was their bad years - nevermind the whole tour being sold out. Liam never sounded/looked that awful. drumming was bland as fuck. Andy Bell wrote Keep The Dream Alive. Liam's b-sides were the most boring songs every played. anyway, I'm getting drunk. cheers You're talking bs again. DBTT is a very good album, far better than HC. Liam's b sides are fine, way better than "sittin on silence...", Liam sounded during a large part of the tour, (when I saw them anyway, inculding int Manchester city stadium) and looked great. I agree with you on KTDA thought, but it'll be the first time I agree with you on anything. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jul 7, 2012 0:04:56 GMT -5
First of all, I don't know what some of you are on about KTDA being a bad song.
A lot of Oasis fans think it's great. Personally I see it as the last truly great Oasis song, and the only one not penned by either Noel or Liam.
Second, user "underneaththesky" is a douche. Just wanted to state that, since as we all know, it's a fact. Plain and simple.
And finally, getting back on topic... Liam obviously benefits from having his voice rested. Sure, this is true for all singers but with Liam the improvement is evidently more considerable than the average.
However, I do think that Liam's voice is more hit 'N' miss than anything else. Some days he'll have a great gig, some days he'll sound terrible. No one knows when or why but just because a gig is at the end of the tour doesn't mean the crowd in attendance is guaranteed a bad vocal performance from him, just like a gig at the beginning of the tour isn't guaranteed a good one.
btw, check this one out. Liam's on fire. dude's REALLY holding his notes and has so much power...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 2:12:10 GMT -5
KTDA is so bad even Noely G slated it. Liams vocals on it are shocking and Mr Andrew Bell obviously didnt have the cohonas To tell him to do them again...
Lyrics are sub-par anarl
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Post by twineesi on Jul 7, 2012 4:15:21 GMT -5
Dont mind Keep The Dream Alive me.
I think a lot of you make too much on Liams voice being good this era, shit this era etc.
When basically some nights its good (usually if he's rested it/start of tour)
And some nights its shit (when he's been touring loads/been getting way too smashed/can't be arsed etc)
Also remember the old white powder has a big affect on your throat/voice/tempo/excitement/makes you louder etc
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Post by twineesi on Jul 7, 2012 4:17:01 GMT -5
And to be honest if any of you have ever gone an Oasis gig and thought, hmmm Liam's voice sounds quite substandard he you can fuck right off.
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Post by downer on Jul 7, 2012 5:04:42 GMT -5
Keep the dream alive is one of top 3 songs on DBTT with Let there be love and Turn up the sun, next 2 songs are Loves like a bomb and GGTIA. Only 1 of top 5 songs is penned by Noel:-) that sums it up pretty accurately, even his songs on DOYS were shite, he really needed that brake...
anyway, i am really shocked, how people cannot like KTDA, really great song with best vocals on it, and also i love the voice of Liam on Let there be love, which some people here slated, that he ruined the song.. i mean - WTF?? this forum is mental.
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Post by twineesi on Jul 7, 2012 5:29:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't agree with your list, but I do prefer Liam/Gem/Andy penned songs as opposed to Noel penned tunes on the last 2 albums.
And I too like Liam's vocals on Let There Be Love - quality
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