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Post by Marky on Mar 20, 2012 16:31:46 GMT -5
www.hootingandhowlingmag.co.uk/beady-eye-looking-back-in-anger.phpA piece I wrote for an online webzine, about Beady Eye using Oasis songs, and the year they've had. Should point out before any Liam fanboys attack me that I PREFER Beady Eye, and whilst I don't resort to being on 'sides', if I had to choose, I'd be 'team Liam'...whatever that may be. This piece is just a comment on the musical/critical side of things for BDI vs HFB
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Post by thomas09 on Mar 20, 2012 17:19:36 GMT -5
that's a well-written article, but i think it focuses too much on the negative aspects of the band, and never really touches on a positive note without it being ruled out by another negative. would have been nice if maybe it finished with a few positives, instead of just "hopefully". although i did think you're double-edged sword remarks were good  |
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Post by Marky on Mar 20, 2012 17:47:54 GMT -5
Yeah, there is that. It's just, I didn't want it to come off as 'come on guys, they really are good' as that would've been too fanboyish, plus I kinda have to remain as impartial as possible. I don't think it was too negative, as I put an optimistic view across, plus I at least got the point across that Beady Eye made a better than expected album and have just been the recipients of unfortunate press. Thankyou for reading it |
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Post by thomas09 on Mar 20, 2012 17:56:40 GMT -5
thats actually a good point and i understand how hard it must be when writing a piece on either noel or liam not to come off fanboyish as theres so many people here who like one more than the other which can only be expected and no problem, I did think it was a good read. to me you raised a lot of debatable issues which is good for any article |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 20, 2012 18:57:14 GMT -5
let's call it what it is, that's some nobody's blog.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 20, 2012 22:14:00 GMT -5
A bit of a confusing article. Not exactly sure what the headline is supposed to imply...other than an excuse to use an already overused and lazy pun. Especially since it alludes to a song with almost zero connection to BDI. And the article isn't about looking back in anger at all.
A couple factual errors that stuck out like sore thumbs to me though.
Radio 1 DJ's are not older than BDI members. Liam is the youngest member of BDI and even Moyles is 2 years younger than him. I assume Moyles is the oldest DJ...he looks like he is.
And Noel's Brit nomination wasn't for best album it was for best British Male. One of his NME nominations was for the album which may be the source of your confusion.
You might have used their relative NME nominations to illustrate the chasm between public support of the respect projects. Noel=hero, Liam=villain; BDI=worst band, Noel=best solo artist; HFB=best album, DGSS=no nomination.
Also, IMO, a bit lazy to dismiss the low singles as being simply a result not being supported by Radio 1. The Arctic Monkeys and Kasabian both have support by Radio 1 and the debut tunes off their albums both reached only 28...only 3 spots above BDI's. And Noel also has had no support on Radio 1 but managed to chart @15 and 20 for his first 2 singles.
Good observations about the festivals though. Be interesting to see where they end up next time if the album is received on the same level as DGSS but there are 2-3 Oasis tunes in the set.
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Post by Marky on Mar 21, 2012 6:38:25 GMT -5
let's call it what it is, that's some nobody's blog. It's not anyone's blog, it's someone elses online webzine, who regularly get free passes to gigs, and special previews of upcoming releases, thanks to how much som BIG PR companies value us, so no, it's not 'some nobody's blog'. |
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Post by thuperthonic on Mar 21, 2012 17:19:45 GMT -5
Pay no mind to the troll, Marky. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Sternumman on Mar 25, 2012 10:27:46 GMT -5
Nice writing but what the hell are enormodomes? I tried looking it up but with no results. I'm not a fan of the album, there are only a few songs that I like, it was an interesting perspective from a BE fan.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 27, 2012 13:58:15 GMT -5
great article
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Post by elchupacabra on Mar 31, 2012 9:05:32 GMT -5
It seems you pin the reason for Beady Eye's lack of success on everything except the music. Different Gear Still Speeding, while better than many thought it would be, is a very mediocre album. Liam's reputation has nothing to do with album sale because if this was the case Oasis wouldn't be as big as they were. The problem is they have one or two decent tunes and the rest are bloody dull.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 31, 2012 10:14:42 GMT -5
Nice writing but what the hell are enormodomes? I tried looking it up but with no results. I'm not a fan of the album, there are only a few songs that I like, it was an interesting perspective from a BE fan. Enormodomes aren't actual things. It's non-specific slang for big gigs. He's referring to the arena tour. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 1, 2012 5:29:23 GMT -5
It seems you pin the reason for Beady Eye's lack of success on everything except the music. Different Gear Still Speeding, while better than many thought it would be, is a very mediocre album. Liam's reputation has nothing to do with album sale because if this was the case Oasis wouldn't be as big as they were. The problem is they have one or two decent tunes and the rest are bloody dull. In your opinion of course. I think going in at number 3 playing the major festivals etc. is pretty good for a bands debut. Especially in a time when guitar music is not that fashionable. |
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Post by rupertg on Apr 1, 2012 8:18:00 GMT -5
and not playing Oasis songs on tour
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 1, 2012 12:03:41 GMT -5
and not playing Oasis songs on tour Exactly. Ill bet you part of the reason for the success of Noel's tour, as much as I hate to say it, is that alot of people just wanted to hear Oasis songs again. But then again.... |
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Post by elchupacabra on Apr 2, 2012 17:30:18 GMT -5
It seems you pin the reason for Beady Eye's lack of success on everything except the music. Different Gear Still Speeding, while better than many thought it would be, is a very mediocre album. Liam's reputation has nothing to do with album sale because if this was the case Oasis wouldn't be as big as they were. The problem is they have one or two decent tunes and the rest are bloody dull. In your opinion of course. I think going in at number 3 playing the major festivals etc. is pretty good for a bands debut. Especially in a time when guitar music is not that fashionable. I don't think the album would have got anywhere near number three if it hadn't been the old members of Oasis in the band. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2012 23:15:12 GMT -5
In your opinion of course. I think going in at number 3 playing the major festivals etc. is pretty good for a bands debut. Especially in a time when guitar music is not that fashionable. I don't think the album would have got anywhere near number three if it hadn't been the old members of Oasis in the band. I doubt it would of gotten any where near the top 40 if it was by a bunch of nobodies. |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 5, 2012 23:53:46 GMT -5
But then tbf there are only so many kinds of hype that an act can harness.
At their age with their history they were never gonna be touted the next big thing. Of course their biggest source of hype was the success of past projects.
It will remain to be seen how many people continue to support them past the initial hype of a new project. The comparative second album sales will be interesting to see.
There is no shame that people paid attention to them because they liked their previous work, though. As long as nobody bought the album and hated it what does it matter why they bothered to check it out? Even if it was because they had been fans of Oasis
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 1:37:59 GMT -5
Who said there was anything wrong with people buying the album based on the creators rather than then the quality of the product? That's exactly why I bought it, for better or for worse.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 6, 2012 2:40:23 GMT -5
Its not really a revelation that a lot of people bought it because its Liam & co. But its no different with the vast majority of others, Noel album would have done well enough anyway but you can't say its initial success was not to do with who he is and the support of the band he was part of.
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