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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 15, 2012 7:55:52 GMT -5
I'm literally more excited about this than about an Oasis reunion!  Oh dear  |
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 15, 2012 8:14:43 GMT -5
I'm literally more excited about this than about an Oasis reunion! Oh dear Yeah I know  But I just live in the moment and an Oasis reunion just isn't happening anytime soon. And besides that, I wouldn't want them on stage together if they still can't stand each other, if Noel is still looking like he wants to be anywhere else but on stage, and if Liam is still thinking he has to shout at the mic to express his anger! So yeah, give me a happy Liam with a great voice in a motivated Beady Eye any time now  |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 15, 2012 8:49:44 GMT -5
Oh dear Yeah I know But I just live in the moment and an Oasis reunion just isn't happening anytime soon. And besides that, I wouldn't want them on stage together if they still can't stand each other, if Noel is still looking like he wants to be anywhere else but on stage, and if Liam is still thinking he has to shout at the mic to express his anger! So yeah, give me a happy Liam with a great voice in a motivated Beady Eye any time now Fair enough. I'm also exited to hear Liam sing Oasis songs again, Just wish Noel was belting out the lead guitar on them! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 9:15:05 GMT -5
They should play some Hurricane #1 and Heavy Stereo classics while they're at it.
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Post by andymorris on Mar 15, 2012 9:16:48 GMT -5
They should play some Hurricane #1 and Heavy Stereo classics while they're at it. They might as well just play covers of every other band and not bother with BDI songs. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2012 9:25:25 GMT -5
They should play some Hurricane #1 and Heavy Stereo classics while they're at it. Heavy Stereo has classics? |
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Post by truefaith on Mar 15, 2012 10:03:35 GMT -5
All of this "new band" escuse is bs.
If Liam had made a solo carreer and abandon the other three, everyone would have think is a bastard.
If Liam had continued under Oasis name, everyone would have think he's a bastard.
If he wanted to be in a band with his bandmates, he had no choice but to choose a new name. So they created BDI.
BUT CHOOSING A NEW BAND NAME DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY ERASE YOUR PAST AND YOUR BACK CATALOGUE !!!!!
If BDI is or isn't a new entity, it's for Liam to decide, it's his band, he's the leader.
If he wants to play his back catalogue with his new band, it's HIS decision, it's doesn't go against having a new band. It's not automatic, there's no Music bible that forbid you to play your back catalogue because you are in a new band.
A singer isn't the same as a drummer, a singer sings his back catalogue with or without his original band. A drummer rarely does. It's not the same thing.
This "new band" escuse is just an escuse for Liam's hater to justify their hate. It's not an empirical reason. It's bs.
NOEL DOESN'T CARE. LIAM CAN PLAY HIS BACK CATALOGUE IF HE WANTS TO, THERE'S ABSOLUTLY NO RULES AGAINST THAT.
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Post by Rifles on Mar 15, 2012 10:18:29 GMT -5
It's just the general consensus, an unwritten rule of sorts. You're fighting a losing battle, truefaith. BDI can play Oasis songs if they want, but they will definitely be criticized for it, especially after Liam's original comments about not needing them. That's just the way it is.
It's not like if they start playing the opening riff of Cigarettes & Alcohol, the music police will raid the venue and arrest everyone. They're free to do whatever they want, but like it or not, a lot of people will give them shit for playing Oasis songs.
I, personally, do not care. I would probably prefer to hear a rocking Oasis tune if I was at a BDI show. I don't believe playing Oasis songs will have a huge impact on their success though. Their album still has to be good. It's no coincidence that Noel's album went double platinum in the UK and he's able to play arenas there. Album sales will translate to bigger shows more so than adding some Oasis tunes to the set.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2012 10:32:26 GMT -5
All of this "new band" escuse is bs. If Liam had made a solo carreer and abandon the other three, everyone would have think is a bastard. If Liam had continued under Oasis name, everyone would have think he's a bastard. If he wanted to be in a band with his bandmates, he had no choice but to choose a new name. So they created BDI. BUT CHOOSING A NEW BAND NAME DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY ERASE YOUR PAST AND YOUR BACK CATALOGUE !!!!! If BDI is or isn't a new entity, it's for Liam to decide, it's his band, he's the leader. If he wants to play his back catalogue with his new band, it's HIS decision, it's doesn't go against having a new band. It's not automatic, there's no Music bible that forbid you to play your back catalogue because you are in a new band. A singer isn't the same as a drummer, a singer sings his back catalogue with or without his original band. A drummer rarely does. It's not the same thing. This "new band" escuse is just an escuse for Liam's hater to justify their hate. It's not an empirical reason. It's bs. NOEL DOESN'T CARE. LIAM CAN PLAY HIS BACK CATALOGUE IF HE WANTS TO, THERE'S ABSOLUTLY NO RULES AGAINST THAT. I think Noel doesn't care if Liam performs the songs he wrote for Oasis because Liam is screwed either way. Noel knows Liam is being tortured right now because he can't play those old Oasis classics and he can (since he wrote them). Noel also knows that if Liam starts performing them on the next Beady Eye tour, Liam is still gonna catch hell. He's doomed no matter what he does. Inside it'll drive Liam nuts not to play those songs. For fans and press they will beat him up publicly. Noel will be laughing his ass off either way. It's a game Liam can't win unless Oasis ever reforms. That is the best option of hearing those classic songs again. |
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Post by andymorris on Mar 15, 2012 10:43:21 GMT -5
A singer isn't the same as a drummer, a singer sings his back catalogue with or without his original band. A drummer rarely does. It's not the same thing. whaaatttt  So a singer can sing other people's song but a drummer cant drum his old band's songs... WTf are you talking about. This is nonsense, if Liam sings Noel's songs, then you should be fine Mccaroll or Whitey drumming Oasis songs at their gigs, if they had any. you're talking pure shit dude. As Rifles said, that's an unwritten rule, something to do with being true to yourself as an artist, or being an opportunist. I dont hate Liam in any way but if he plays Noel's tune, i'll probably boo at the gig, and i don't want that. Really don't. I would do the same if Noel was singing Songbird or Better Man. |
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Post by andymorris on Mar 15, 2012 10:46:09 GMT -5
It's a game Liam can't win unless Oasis ever reforms. That is the best option of hearing those classic songs again. But Liam can win without Oasis reforming: Carry on with BDI, make better records and play Oasis tunes that Andy, Gem or he wrote. I admired the fact that they begun with new material only. Now it seems he's pissed off Noel's doing better than him. This is just childish. |
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Post by truefaith on Mar 15, 2012 10:49:42 GMT -5
[ I think Noel doesn't care if Liam performs the songs he wrote for Oasis because Liam is screwed either way. Noel knows Liam is being tortured right now because he can't play those old Oasis classics and he can (since he wrote them). Noel also knows that if Liam starts performing them on the next Beady Eye tour, Liam is still gonna catch hell. He's doomed no matter what he does. Inside it'll drive Liam nuts not to play those songs. For fans and press they will beat him up publicly. Noel will be laughing his ass off either way. It's a game Liam can't win unless Oasis ever reforms. That is the best option of hearing those classic songs again. Do you realize what you wrote? It's really so crazy for Oasis singer to want to sing Oasis song? It deserve so much hate ? You're supposed to be a fan of this guy. You aware that Oasis wasn't just Noel. That a singer is a huge part of a song. A fan that explain to me it's wrong for OASIS singer to play oasis song isn't an Oasis fan to me, just a Noel zombie. As for the press, it doesn't matter, it just a way for tabloid to continue Gallagher war. After a few gigs, they'll move on. As for Noel, he said he won't be ever playing songs like CS because and I quote him "it's a LIAM song". He said "I'm sure Liam will play them on his next tour". He didn't say that with contempt. It's a kind of song he wrote for Liam to sing, NOEL doesn't feel the right to play it. So he doesn't care if Liam, the performer for whom he made the song, does. If Noel didn't want Liam to play it, he would say so, he woud play it himself, but he wouldn't refer to it as a "Liam song". Their own songwritter refer to them as "Liam's song" and some vaginas on the internet or shit press like the NME feel the nerve to say "it's wrong" for Liam G to sing his back catalogue. Unbelievable and very hypocritical if you call yourself a fan of Oasis (not Noel, Oasis). |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2012 10:50:27 GMT -5
It's a game Liam can't win unless Oasis ever reforms. That is the best option of hearing those classic songs again. But Liam can win without Oasis reforming: Carry on with BDI, make better records and play Oasis tunes that Andy, Gem or he wrote. I admired the fact that they begun with new material only. Now it seems he's pissed off Noel's doing better than him. This is just childish. I meant playing Noel Oasis songs is a game Liam can't win. I'm fine with LAG Oasis if they choose to do that. I'd much prefer they bang out an awesome second album and keep growing/expanding/experimenting. I'm excited for the unknown with this band. |
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Post by truefaith on Mar 15, 2012 10:53:01 GMT -5
A singer isn't the same as a drummer, a singer sings his back catalogue with or without his original band. A drummer rarely does. It's not the same thing. whaaatttt So a singer can sing other people's song but a drummer cant drum his old band's songs... WTf are you talking about. This is nonsense, if Liam sings Noel's songs, then you should be fine Mccaroll or Whitey drumming Oasis songs at their gigs, if they had any. you're talking pure shit dude. As Rifles said, that's an unwritten rule, something to do with being true to yourself as an artist, or being an opportunist. I dont hate Liam in any way but if he plays Noel's tune, i'll probably boo at the gig, and i don't want that. Really don't. I would do the same if Noel was singing Songbird or Better Man. You're aware that Elvis never wrote his song are you? That Morrissey never wrote any music. That most of pop artist don't write their music as well. It's not the same for singer. And like I said, even if Dave Grohl wanted to play some nirvana, why not ? But it doesn't apply here just because Liam is the leader, the member were all in Oasis. Therefore it seems logical to play Oasis song. Not to play Ride's or La's. You're an hypocrite. If you like Oasis, you won't boo because you'll be too happy hearing those songs again in their right form. If you boo, you don't have a clue what Oasis is. |
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Post by retrolego on Mar 15, 2012 10:58:35 GMT -5
To me they're Oasis songs, not Noel songs not Liam songs. They weren't played by an individual they were played by Oasis. And if a former member of Oasis wants to play them now the band has broken up then they are welcome to.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2012 10:58:42 GMT -5
[ I think Noel doesn't care if Liam performs the songs he wrote for Oasis because Liam is screwed either way. Noel knows Liam is being tortured right now because he can't play those old Oasis classics and he can (since he wrote them). Noel also knows that if Liam starts performing them on the next Beady Eye tour, Liam is still gonna catch hell. He's doomed no matter what he does. Inside it'll drive Liam nuts not to play those songs. For fans and press they will beat him up publicly. Noel will be laughing his ass off either way. It's a game Liam can't win unless Oasis ever reforms. That is the best option of hearing those classic songs again. Do you realize what you wrote? It's really so crazy for Oasis singer to want to sing Oasis song? It deserve so much hate ? You're supposed to be a fan of this guy. You aware that Oasis wasn't just Noel. That a singer is a huge part of a song. A fan that explain to me it's wrong for OASIS singer to play oasis song isn't an Oasis fan to me, just a Noel zombie. As for the press, it doesn't matter, it just a way for tabloid to continue Gallagher war. After a few gigs, they'll move on. As for Noel, he said he won't be ever playing songs like CS because and I quote him "it's a LIAM song". He said "I'm sure Liam will play them on his next tour". He didn't say that with contempt. It's a kind of song he wrote for Liam to sing, NOEL doesn't feel the right to play it. So he doesn't care if Liam, the performer for whom he made the song, does. If Noel didn't want Liam to play it, he would say so, he woud play it himself, but he wouldn't refer to it as a "Liam song". Their own songwritter refer to them as "Liam's song" and some vaginas on the internet or shit press like the NME feel the nerve to say "it's wrong" for Liam G to sing his back catalogue. Unbelievable and very hypocritical if you call yourself a fan of Oasis (not Noel, Oasis). Again TrueFaith....you are the only one saying the word "wrong". I didn't say it and neither did several other posters. I just said I'm not into the idea of playing Noel Oasis songs. LAG wrote a dozen songs I wouldn't mind hearing at a Beady Eye gig if they went that route. Liam can do whatever he wants, he always did anyways. I believe Noel is totally mind fucking with Liam. Remember they are waging a war. Noel left that band "for a reason". I think he is just winding Liam up saying "go ahead and play them, I don't care." Noel knows Liam will get beat up for doing it and he probably deep down enjoys that. It's just my opinion. I could be dead wrong. I've seen Oasis 10 times (ranging from 1997 to 2008) and for an American that is a high number of shows. I've heard the greatest hits setlist for years. I don't need to hear Beady Eye play those songs. I enjoy many of the Oasis songs Noel is playing because I never got the chance to hear those songs when they toured the states. Plus he wrote those songs. It is only natural they would seep into his setlists. It's a shame I won't be hearing Champagne Supernova, Rock n Roll Star, Slide Away or Acquiesce unless Oasis reforms. I'll survive either way. Both Gallagher brothers have a lot more to offer musically. Let's see where they take it. At this point I'm more into the idea of Beady Eye playing their own songs rather than look to the past. It's only an opinion and it is obviously not shared by you. Chill out. |
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Post by truefaith on Mar 15, 2012 11:06:40 GMT -5
Again TrueFaith....you are the only one saying the word "wrong". I didn't say it and neither did several other posters. I just said I'm not into the idea of playing Noel Oasis songs. LAG wrote a dozen songs I wouldn't mind hearing at a Beady Eye gig if they went that route. Liam can do whatever he wants, he always did anyways. I believe Noel is totally mind fucking with Liam. Remember they are waging a war. Noel left that band "for a reason". I think he is just winding Liam up saying "go ahead and play them, I don't care." Noel knows Liam will get beat up for doing it and he probably deep down enjoys that. It's just my opinion. I could be dead wrong. I've seen Oasis 10 times (ranging from 1997 to 2008) and for an American that is a high number of shows. I've heard the greatest hits setlist for years. I don't need to hear Beady Eye play those songs. I enjoy many of the Oasis songs Noel is playing because I never got the chance to hear those songs when they toured the states. Plus he wrote those songs. It is only natural they would seep into his setlists. It's a shame I won't be hearing Champagne Supernova, Rock n Roll Star, Slide Away or Acquiesce unless Oasis reforms. I'll survive either way. Both Gallagher brothers have a lot more to offer musically. Let's see where they take it. At this point I'm more into the idea of Beady Eye playing their own songs rather than look to the past. It's only an opinion and it is obviously not shared by you. Chill out. Just to be clear. Your opinion is your opinion I respect it. My post wasn't against you. I just really have a problem with people thinking Noel has more right to play the song than Liam. Because for me an Oasis song is an Oasis song. Liam was a performer on them. Performer have the right to play their song even if they haven't wrote them. If we're talking about unwritten rules, I think we can at least agree on that. Just because Liam didn't find the line "faster than a cannonball". It doesn't mean the song is less part of his catalogue and he has less right to play them. Just like Elvis. I've seen Oasis a lot too and still I was sad not hearing Liam play those songs again. An accoustic supersonic by Noel isn't enough for me. And then I think we're really talking about 1 or 2 songs top here. I can't see where is the big deal. BDI album number will stay the main thing to talk about. |
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Post by Rolo on Mar 15, 2012 11:26:10 GMT -5
The way I see it is, it's a win win situation. We get to hear the songs we love being blasted out by Liam again and Beady Eye will get more ticket sales due to them putting in a couple Oasis tunes, as long as they stick to 2 or 3 it wont hurt them in any way, it will benefit them. This has been blown way out of proportion again, Liam was the lead singer of Oasis and yes he didn't write the songs but his vocal was what made the them truly special. Just chill out and look forward to hear Liam singing Oasis songs again.
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Post by alwaysnow on Mar 15, 2012 11:42:45 GMT -5
Beady Eye will play Oasis songs in their setlist. Chances are that their setlist will improve having a new album coming up plus some songs from the best band ever. People are gonna go to their shows and have a great time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 11:57:58 GMT -5
as it stands Ive been to 4 Gallagher gigs, 1 Oasis, 2 BDI, 1 NGHFB
at none of those gigs have i experienced Live Forever...
If BDI play it then ill finally hear Liam snarling out one of my favourite tunes.... so personally I WANT TO HEAR OASIS SONGS LIVE!!!!!
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Post by starwillshine on Mar 15, 2012 12:49:39 GMT -5
I reckon it will be 3 Oasis tunes at most. Rock n Roll Star is a stick on I think and also Songbird. The only worry I have for BDI playing Noel penned tunes is the press (Gordon Smart etc) will have a field day and spin it like BDI are panicking and resorting to playing the god like genius's songs to get them out a hole. I personally don't see the big deal with flinging in 2/3 Oasis songs regardless of who wrote them but any more than that might look like a cry for help especially if they are Noels songs. Roll on Japan to find out |
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Post by mememe26 on Mar 15, 2012 16:47:04 GMT -5
Goin' to lose a massive amount of respect for Liam, Gem & Andy when this happens, this is the sort of shit you would see Liam slaggin' other bands for...
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Post by disconnected1976 on Mar 15, 2012 17:15:06 GMT -5
ian brown only played roses tunes after john squire did in his solo career. bdi said from the start they would play old tunes at some point. let's wait and see which ones they play... and lets not forget they did the majority of an oasis tour without noel onstage and played those songs... It was different, it was Oasis, fulfilling contractual obligations without Noel. Which was very brave of them, it was my first Oasis gig ever, and I was thankful for them for doing it. Once again, it's their right. It's just that I believe they shouldn't, because their attitude was the right one until now : new band, new songs. We'll see what they play, I'm almost 100% sure it will be the hits, because... That's what people want to hear. But they're big guys, they do whatever they want, really... |
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Post by thedon on Mar 15, 2012 18:00:06 GMT -5
Always assumed they'd end up playing Oasis songs that Liam, Andy or Gem wrote but if they end up playing Noel's songs that'll really surprise me.
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Post by retrolego on Mar 15, 2012 18:30:22 GMT -5
Goin' to lose a massive amount of respect for Liam, Gem & Andy when this happens, this is the sort of shit you would see Liam slaggin' other bands for... So you wouldn't sing along if you went to see them at a gig? I guarantee that every single person on the forum would sing along, it would be impossible not to. So you'd lose respect for them, then sing along but still maintain that you don't have as much respect for them. Now who's the hypocrite. |
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