|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 14, 2012 18:39:51 GMT -5
What kind of zombies do you think they are like? The Walking Dead slow/dumb ones or 28 Days Later fast/violent ones? The ones wearing £50 Pretty Green t-shirts. Hahahahahahahaha. I just spit out my drink across the room.
|
|
|
Post by gdforever on Mar 14, 2012 18:44:33 GMT -5
It's be a different situation. Yeah...I think it's be more acceptable. It would be Liam saying, I'm Liam Gallagher...this is my career spanning back catalogue. not We are BDI...this is a song from our lead singers back catalogue. BTW...who is talking about HFB? how would it be more acceptable?? andy and gem have spent the last 10 years of their lives playing oasis songs so they certainly have a right to play them. liam made the songs what they are. he has every right to sing them. if anything it would be if he plays them in a band are the songs automatically no longer his career spanning back catalogue?? It means one concert is Liam Gallagher playing everything he is associated with. The other is BDI playing things that another act released. And Andy and Gem...I'm sorry...but they don't really have a part of early Oasis material. They weren't on the records that made those songs famous and they weren't in the band that recorded them or released them. Liam as a solo artist is Liam, former singer of Oasis. BDI is an entity in itself...and BDI, as an entity, is totally separate from Oasis. They didn't want BDI to be Oasis-minus-Noel...I wish they'd stick to that.
|
|
|
Post by truefaith on Mar 14, 2012 18:48:43 GMT -5
how would it be more acceptable?? andy and gem have spent the last 10 years of their lives playing oasis songs so they certainly have a right to play them. liam made the songs what they are. he has every right to sing them. if anything it would be if he plays them in a band are the songs automatically no longer his career spanning back catalogue?? It means one concert is Liam Gallagher playing everything he is associated with. The other is BDI playing things that another act released. And Andy and Gem...I'm sorry...but they don't really have a part of early Oasis material. They weren't on the records that made those songs famous and they weren't in the band that recorded them or released them. Liam as a solo artist is Liam, former singer of Oasis. BDI is an entity in itself...and BDI, as an entity, is totally separate from Oasis. They didn't want BDI to be Oasis-minus-Noel...I wish they'd stick to that. It's your way of seing it. But it doesn't mean it's the truth or that it makes sens to everyone. But then, frankly, you've never seen Oasis and BDI live, and you're telling you won't go and like it if BDI was playing Oasis songs ? You would leave the room? Nobody is actually gonna care once they started. I've seen Oasis a lot, BDI and Noel solo and I'm glad they're playing some. I can't see how Oasis fan can't be too.
|
|
|
Post by gdforever on Mar 14, 2012 18:52:50 GMT -5
For better or for worse, bands are usually subjected to a different mode of viewing/thinking than a solo artist. So if Noel had choose to call himself only High Flying Birds and to be in a full band, people would think it's "wrong" for him to play Oasis songs? It doesn't make any sense. People can think BDI shouldn't play Oasis song, (it's a little hypocritical for a fan but there you go). But using the band/solo artist as a empirical reason because of "tradition". Especially when there are example of band doing the same thing is ridiculous. Depends...is High Flying Birds a band or a solo project? Noel was always going to be a solo artist. A rose by any other name. Also...far fewer people have a problem with LAG playing their own songs. Noel only playing his own songs is Noel playing the strongest part of the Oasis catalogue. It was never a possiblity that he'd play any of the other 3's songs...and I doubt that he would ever even consider it. Besides...it's not the name...it's the intent. BDI were supposed to be an act in it's own right. It was a clear statement with conviction...and over time it seems that they seem to be shrinking back to what they never wanted to be...Oasis minus Noel.
|
|
|
Post by matt on Mar 14, 2012 19:03:15 GMT -5
Again, just reinforcing the idea that it is just Oasis without Noel - hardly an appatising prospect? Considering they are a 'new' band, shouldn't they try 'new' things?
I can see Beady Eye going down hill all the way, until Noel feels sorry for the band and reforms Oasis. I would only be up for an Oasis reunion if Noel writes the whole of the album, maybe letting Liam have one of his songs on it, rather than half baked like the last few Oasis albums.
Personally, the sublime quality of High Flying Birds has made me think twice about an Oasis reunion.
|
|
|
Post by drteter on Mar 14, 2012 19:12:14 GMT -5
I just thought about it and it would be REALLY strange if BDI played something that had prominent backing vox from Noel...that probably nixes Live Forever. If I heard Gem/Andy singing the falsetto it'd probably make me want to blow my brains out.
Other than that, anything to spice up the setlist a little. I didn't make the trek to NY to see them when they came around last summer, but I'm seeing Noel twice...I liked HFB better than DGSS, but the promise of hearing DLBIA and Supersonic certainly made my decision to see him easier. Knowing I'd hear RNRS or C&A would probably push me to go see BDI the next time they come around, provided that the second album is good.
|
|
jordanmufc
RKid
Another sunny afternoon, walking to the sound of my favourite tune...
Posts: 27
|
Post by jordanmufc on Mar 14, 2012 19:23:25 GMT -5
Former Oasis singer and band members play Oasis songs. Absolutely outrageous, can't believe anybody would do such a thing, Noel wouldn't...
Honestly can't see why this is a big deal, both Beady Eye and NGHFB are great, and Oasis songs in the setlist make (and will make) there shows even better.
|
|
|
Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 14, 2012 19:43:57 GMT -5
The simple reason . . . He's tired of crowds being smaller than the number of people he sees down at the pub. Bore off.
|
|
retrolego
Oasis Roadie
Walking to the sound of my favorite tune
Posts: 279
|
Post by retrolego on Mar 14, 2012 20:03:35 GMT -5
Former Oasis singer and band members play Oasis songs. Absolutely outrageous, can't believe anybody would do such a thing, Noel wouldn't... Honestly can't see why this is a big deal, both Beady Eye and NGHFB are great, and Oasis songs in the setlist make (and will make) there shows even better. Hear Hear
|
|
|
Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 14, 2012 20:03:47 GMT -5
Great article. I agree wholeheartedly. In reference to the article. A few Oasis songs will not overshadow the album. Die hards will not be the only fans to appreciate some Oasis tunes and Beady Eye will never be like No Way Sis. Whatever someone decides to write. "It’s hard to look upon Beady Eye’s intentions to play Oasis songs as anything other than a ‘tit-for-tat’ situation – a decision almost irrelevant of three of its members, and one all about the unbreakable rivalry of two warring siblings." Errr...what now? You think they are playing Oasis songs to get at Noel in some way. Whatever Liam has said one thing we can be sure of is that he loves those songs and probably misses playing them live. To suggest that also when the war appears to be calming is slightly odd. Those songs are not 'irrelevant' to the other 3. All were members of Oasis and Andy and Gem brought a lot to those songs in a live setting. Your article is basically the same article you warn them to expect from the general press. I don't really see why that matters in any case. Some people are very strange on here, there primary concerns are always about numbers and exposure rather than music and performance. Basically the article is based on the pedantic distinction about what Beady Eye should or shouldn't do as a 'separate entity'. The important facts are that the band are made up of Oasis members two of which were in the band for a decade and one oof which was a founding member, lead singer and brother of the departed songwriter. Its a no brainer.
|
|
dion
Oasis Roadie
Posts: 362
|
Post by dion on Mar 14, 2012 20:25:35 GMT -5
Has he confirmed he's playing Noel penned tunes? I've only seen the comment about "they're as much mine as his" which leads to the obvious conclusion than he'll be singing the classics, but he could well just mean he's playing the songs he wrote from the Oasis back catalogue.
Has there been a proper clarification on this?
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 14, 2012 20:36:07 GMT -5
Has he confirmed he's playing Noel penned tunes? I've only seen the comment about "they're as much mine as his" which leads to the obvious conclusion than he'll be singing the classics, but he could well just mean he's playing the songs he wrote from the Oasis back catalogue. Has there been a proper clarification on this? He hasn't officially stated what songs he intends to play but his comments lead to speculation that he means the Oasis classics from the 1994-1997 era.
|
|
|
Post by mkoasis on Mar 14, 2012 20:38:39 GMT -5
I would guess from that comment that they are considering performing Noel songs. Personally, I think they have more than enough of their own tunes to go through first as those songs didnt get as much exposure (ie didnt get played 800,000 times) and those songs could be amazing live.
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 14, 2012 20:52:37 GMT -5
I would guess from that comment that they are considering performing Noel songs. Personally, I think they have more than enough of their own tunes to go through first as those songs didnt get as much exposure (ie didnt get played 800,000 times) and those songs could be amazing live. Why would Beady Eye want to play songs by Liam, Andy and Gem when they could play songs written by Noel that helped define a generation through Liam's vocal chords? Easy choice my friend.
|
|
|
Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 14, 2012 21:03:37 GMT -5
I don't know, for me personally i'd love to here an Eyeball Tickler or Turn Up The Sun. Would be great if they did some less played Oasis songs like Girl In The Dirty Shirt or Hey Now.
|
|
|
Post by NicOasis on Mar 14, 2012 21:29:50 GMT -5
I would guess from that comment that they are considering performing Noel songs. Personally, I think they have more than enough of their own tunes to go through first as those songs didnt get as much exposure (ie didnt get played 800,000 times) and those songs could be amazing live.
|
|
|
Post by jakob61907 on Mar 14, 2012 21:45:14 GMT -5
can anyone upload the interview on xfm? Its not working for me for whatever reason.CHeers
|
|
|
Post by thepicturesgeneration on Mar 14, 2012 23:58:57 GMT -5
BDI playing oasis songs reminds me of The Jam tribute band with the two Jam members playing jam "covers"...anyone know what i'm talking about?
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2012 0:18:10 GMT -5
BDI playing oasis songs reminds me of The Jam tribute band with the two Jam members playing jam "covers"...anyone know what i'm talking about? Yes I do. I think they were called "From The Jam". They played New York city 3-4 years ago. Obviously no Paul Weller in this act but it did feature the other 2 Jam members. Oddly enough they played the Weller songs he wrote and sang on too. Strange times.
|
|
|
Post by thuperthonic on Mar 15, 2012 1:20:20 GMT -5
Some people are very strange on here, there primary concerns are always about numbers and exposure rather than music and performance. We're just fillin' the gaps between albums, mate. I don't think this stuff genuinely deeply matters to anyone. In the end, we're all here for the music. If Beady Eye put out a new tune tomorrow, I know I'd forget about this topic entirely.
|
|
|
Post by disconnected1976 on Mar 15, 2012 2:42:50 GMT -5
I believe the main problem is how early in their new band's career they're playing these songs. New Order have waited a very long time until they played Joy Division songs (but they had a more complicated issue to deal with), Ian Brown oUnly played Stone Roses songs after his 3rd solo album I think... Beady Eye haven't even released their second album. So it feels weird to see them backflip completely. And a lot of New Order fans still feel bad about them playing Joy Division songs, even though "it's their right". So they'll play those songs and it will be their right too. But they will come across as less respectable, because they said one strong thing last year, and now they say the exact opposite. But it's OK, we'll live with it.
|
|
|
Post by disconnected1976 on Mar 15, 2012 2:48:09 GMT -5
Another good example for the "it's their right" theory : Dave Gahan, who played Depeche Mode songs (all written by Martin L. Gore at this point) on his solo tour, while he was still in Depeche Mode.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 3:36:21 GMT -5
ian brown only played roses tunes after john squire did in his solo career.
bdi said from the start they would play old tunes at some point. let's wait and see which ones they play...
and lets not forget they did the majority of an oasis tour without noel onstage and played those songs...
|
|
|
Post by cigsandalc on Mar 15, 2012 3:44:03 GMT -5
Funny discussion ;D I think Liam has every right to play songs that he has done now for 20 Years, also I don´t see the problem as there are 2 other guys in BE who were in Oasis since 2000 which is longer than any other Ex-Oasis (would still love to see Guigs and Bonehead for a WTSMG Reunion). At the end of the day i fell in love with all those oasis songs not because Noel Gallagher wrote them but because those songs were amazing and were sung by Liam Gallagher. So BE bring back some good memories with playing a few (only a few) oasis songs but more important make a huge 2nd Album which blows away every discussion about if there should be oasis songs being played at your gigs or not.
|
|
|
Post by songbirdsally on Mar 15, 2012 7:20:42 GMT -5
I'm literally more excited about this than about an Oasis reunion! Anyways, Liam has every right to sing them. Those songs were made for him to sing, it would be a shame if he never sang them again! Haters will hate and moaners will moan about everything, but personally... I can't wait !!!!!!
|
|