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Post by RUBIKON on Mar 6, 2012 16:00:31 GMT -5
that gig has to be a dvd. the end
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Mar 6, 2012 17:36:36 GMT -5
Alot of "vaginaish" like comments at the bottom of the video... didn't know the hate for Oasis in the states was so strong. Gutted they never took off on a huge scale.
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Post by Rifles on Mar 6, 2012 17:43:08 GMT -5
Alot of "vaginaish" like comments at the bottom of the video... didn't know the hate for Oasis in the states was so strong. Gutted they never took off on a huge scale. Yeah they're largely regarded as a joke. Unless you're already a fan, those comments about being brilliant are only going to rub people the wrong way as evidenced by some of the comments. If this interview happened back when the album launched and he was a little more unsure of everything, it would've come across better because he wasn't talking about how brilliant he and his album are. He was a lot more humble in his comments. They'll just never catch on in the US. Too many people have a negative opinion of them still. They have to change too much to appease people here and I'd rather them stay true to who they are.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 6, 2012 18:33:25 GMT -5
Thoroughly enjoyed reading the comments at the bottom of that article. Exactly what I expected and then some. I've only just now started looking through them. Some of them are harsh. Ouch.
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Post by zgb on Mar 6, 2012 18:44:31 GMT -5
to 95% americans, Oasis (including Liam and Noel) is this :
enough said
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 6, 2012 19:13:22 GMT -5
actually no one in America will see this interview since this aired on CNN International, not the regular CNN. Not every cable package carries this channel. If you go to cnn.com right now and click on the entertainment tab, you'll see it. (and I'm on edition US, not international right now). Yeah, it's called the internet. of course, i was exclusively referring to watching this on tv. hell, if you really want to, you don't even have to wait for CNN to write an article Noel-related. The internet is global and even stuff posted on this very forum can easily be found through google. that wasn't the point, guess it went right over your head.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 6, 2012 19:28:19 GMT -5
If you go to cnn.com right now and click on the entertainment tab, you'll see it. (and I'm on edition US, not international right now). Yeah, it's called the internet. of course, i was exclusively referring to watching this on tv. hell, if you really want to, you don't even have to wait for CNN to write an article Noel-related. The internet is global and even stuff posted on this very forum can easily be found through google. that wasn't the point, guess it went right over your head. Guess you still haven't learned how not to use absolutes. Like "no one in America". If the point was television then you should have said that this will never air on television. Not that anyone in America would ever see it. Do you know how to use English correctly in order to articulate your thoughts. I don't know, I guess absolutes still go over your head.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 7, 2012 12:29:17 GMT -5
to 95% americans, Oasis (including Liam and Noel) is this : enough said I disagree. Oasis in the US had a decent but short lived peak in the mid 90s. The US saw them as a joke in the early 2000s, but I really do feel that perception has changed since 2005. Oasis now seems respected for what they were, in the US. Nothing big, maybe a bit of an indifferent attitude, but I no longer get the sense that Americans see them as a joke anymore. Lest we forget how good DBTT and DOYS did in the US (compared to the previous 2 releases!).
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Post by thuperthonic on Mar 7, 2012 14:59:16 GMT -5
They're not a joke anymore, but interviews like that where Noel comes across as arrogant (even though to us he's quite clearly taking the piss) remind everyone how silly and deluded those Gallagher brothers are, and everyone gets their knives out again.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 7, 2012 15:12:25 GMT -5
I think part of it is that anything out of America seems to require Noel to do a fricking post-mortem on Oasis' career in the America in every interview. It's 2012 and they are still asking...so what happened in 1997?
You can tell it winds Noel up and when he gets his back up he gets arrogant. Did they make it massive? No. But they always insinuate that they flopped...which also isn't true.
Fact is Oasis sat in the awkward middle ground for much of their career. But for a couple years they definitely did break it. They sold 4 million albums in a year! They just didn't maintain it and because of past arrogance journalist like to rub that in.
When people tell Noel they never broke it in America that's bullshit. Not breaking it was all the rest of the Britpop bands.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 7, 2012 15:54:52 GMT -5
I think part of it is that anything out of America seems to require Noel to do a fricking post-mortem on Oasis' career in the America in every interview. It's 2012 and they are still asking...so what happened in 1997? You can tell it winds Noel up and when he gets his back up he gets arrogant. Did they make it massive? No. But they always insinuate that they flopped...which also isn't true. Fact is Oasis sat in the awkward middle ground for much of their career. But for a couple years they definitely did break it. They sold 4 million albums in a year! They just didn't maintain it and because of past arrogance journalist like to rub that in. When people tell Noel they never broke it in America that's bullshit. Not breaking it was all the rest of the Britpop bands. Agreed. Compared to Blur, Pulp, Manic Street Preachers, Ocean Colour Scene and Slade...Oasis blew them away in sales in America. Radiohead was the only other UK band who put up big numbers in America and that really started taking shape when Ok Computer hit. Other than Coldplay, I don't think the new Brit bands have taken over the states either. Travis, Kasabian, Keane, Arctic Monkeys, The Coral, Kaiser Chiefs, Bloc Party and the Stereophonics have all had mixed commercials success and small tours. Oasis broke America. I believe they sold 6 million albums there between 1994-1997. Sold out tours from coast to coast. Played MTV Unplugged and Music Awards. Videos were shown non stop. By 1997 standards, Oasis was pretty damn big in America. However, 2000 to 2009 was very very unkind. Complete lack of interest across most media platforms.
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Mar 7, 2012 16:02:24 GMT -5
Didn't Oasis still sell out the Hollywood bowl and Madison Square Garden after 2000 though? Perhaps media attention died down just because of their age.
Anyone know how big Coldplay are over there? Can't say I taken much attention of them over there... U2 seem to be fucking huge, they sold out virtually every existing stadium not just in North America, but all over the world on their 360 tour, pretty depressing to watch thinking if only Oasis had got the same treatment.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 7, 2012 16:05:27 GMT -5
Didn't Oasis still sell out the Hollywood bowl and Madison Square Garden after 2000 though? Perhaps media attention died down just because of their age. Anyone know how big Coldplay are over there? Can't say I taken much attention of them over there... U2 seem to be fucking huge, they sold out virtually every existing stadium not just in North America, but all over the world on their 360 tour, pretty depressing to watch thinking if only Oasis had got the same treatment. They did sell those venues out. I was at both MSG nights. Place was rocking but those are rare examples. Nobody was buying their albums here. Singles were not on the radio. Videos never shown. Coldplay is absolutely massive in America. Soccer moms can't help themselves when buying mylo xyolto at starbucks. They are on the radio, the tv, you hear their songs at sporting events. They have a prolonged presence in the US since 2000.
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Post by bwilder on Mar 7, 2012 21:01:35 GMT -5
Oasis are becoming more and more respected in the US. They were absolutely loathed by alot of people in 1996-1997 for being arrogant and cocky. But now people are starting to look through that and discover the great music they made. I have friends who hated them and now ask me when they are reuniting because they want to go see them. Having said that, there will always be a contingency in the US that blindly hates them for what they saw on mainstream media about them.
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