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Post by disconnected1976 on Mar 6, 2012 2:56:41 GMT -5
This, please. I don't even like Kasabian, but the thought of Liam snarling over the top of a good beat is enticing. The sounds of Scorpio Rising are just a hint of what Liam and the crew could experiment with. Great idea matt. Kasabian are a solid enough band but if BDI did their own take on that kind of electronic, Primal Screamish rock I think they'd come out with something pretty solid and far more rewarding then some cheap reworkings or rather caricatures of classic rock tunes/vibes that we saw on DGSS. I don't know if that would work for them. They should try, but it works for Kasabian because they've always been about that, and Primal Scream really got into that whole acid house culture back then. What they need is to build their own thing. There are a few songs on DGSS that sound like their own thing, and they're all my favourites on the record. They should just aim higher. Not necessarily get a bunch of sequencers, just push harder in their own direction. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 7, 2012 10:21:20 GMT -5
This, please. I don't even like Kasabian, but the thought of Liam snarling over the top of a good beat is enticing. The sounds of Scorpio Rising are just a hint of what Liam and the crew could experiment with. Great idea matt. Kasabian are a solid enough band but if BDI did their own take on that kind of electronic, Primal Screamish rock I think they'd come out with something pretty solid and far more rewarding then some cheap reworkings or rather caricatures of classic rock tunes/vibes that we saw on DGSS. I was DYING for Oasis to do this since right after the Be Here Now era. During press junkets for Be Here Now, Noel kept mentioning that songs like 'Setting Sun' and 'D'You Know What I Mean' were hints of what future Oasis albums would sound like. This never really happened unfortunately. SOTSOG did not sound like the previously mentioned tunes. When Noel first mentioned Oasis were going to collaborate with DIV after Heathen Chemistry I thought it was a brilliant idea and I hate that it didn't work out. I wanted that Oasis/Electronic vibe that Primal Scream and Kasabian feature so successfully. It would be interesting if Beady Eye went down this road for some tracks. I think it could work. |
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Post by RocketMan on Mar 7, 2012 11:20:57 GMT -5
when i heard that DOYS will be more psychedelic and more krautrock i expected something more than what finally appeared. it was the old stuff with some psychedelic sounds...
i blame noel for not trying something new like an oasis 'kid a' or 'ok computer'. not in this style, i just wanted something new after SOTSOG and HC
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Post by truefaith on Mar 7, 2012 11:42:49 GMT -5
when i heard that DOYS will be more psychedelic and more krautrock i expected something more than what finally appeared. it was the old stuff with some psychedelic sounds... i blame noel for not trying something new like an oasis 'kid a' or 'ok computer'. not in this style, i just wanted something new after SOTSOG and HC It's finally coming, it's the AA album ! I'm not sure Liam is ready to do something new, he's still finding himself as the songwritter. But he doesn't hate electronic music since he did Scorpio Rising with DIV and Shoot down with Prodigy. He should collaborate a little more. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 7, 2012 12:13:45 GMT -5
when i heard that DOYS will be more psychedelic and more krautrock i expected something more than what finally appeared. it was the old stuff with some psychedelic sounds... i blame noel for not trying something new like an oasis 'kid a' or 'ok computer'. not in this style, i just wanted something new after SOTSOG and HC It's finally coming, it's the AA album ! I'm not sure Liam is ready to do something new, he's still finding himself as the songwritter. But he doesn't hate electronic music since he did Scorpio Rising with DIV and Shoot down with Prodigy. He should collaborate a little more. I always liked the Jagz Kooner remixes found on the DOYS bonus CD. Liam sounded great. I imagine this is how the DIV project would have sounded. |
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Post by cosmos on Mar 13, 2012 14:19:45 GMT -5
This is one of the weak points of Oasis, Noel and Liam: they were so limited and afraid of when taking their music to new horizons. That is the little big difference between a great band who craves and aspires to new sounds (Beatles, U2, The Who, The Kinks) and those who stay in their comfort zone, whatever it means. The only time the band tried something different was in SOTSOG and the results were amazing, but then they returned to their cliches in HC.
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Post by NYR on Mar 13, 2012 14:57:19 GMT -5
This is one of the weak points of Oasis, Noel and Liam: they were so limited and afraid of when taking their music to new horizons. That is the little big difference between a great band who craves and aspires to new sounds (Beatles, U2, The Who, The Kinks) and those who stay in their comfort zone, whatever it means. The only time the band tried something different was in SOTSOG and the results were amazing, but then they returned to their cliches in HC. couldn't agree with you more. i've been saying that for years! |
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Post by holdonecho on Mar 13, 2012 18:54:43 GMT -5
Enough with people going on about Liam still finding his 'writing legs'
He is a 40 year old man who has been looking for his writing legs for 15 years.
Honestly most of the song writers on this forum are better then him.
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Post by thomas09 on Mar 14, 2012 6:52:02 GMT -5
This is one of the weak points of Oasis, Noel and Liam: they were so limited and afraid of when taking their music to new horizons. That is the little big difference between a great band who craves and aspires to new sounds (Beatles, U2, The Who, The Kinks) and those who stay in their comfort zone, whatever it means. The only time the band tried something different was in SOTSOG and the results were amazing, but then they returned to their cliches in HC. agree with you entirely except for U2. They havent done anything experimental since 1997's Pop. They're totally guilty of continually sticking to the same formula and playing it safe |
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Post by Peter Irish on Mar 14, 2012 7:34:22 GMT -5
Thank the lord he is not going to morph into his brother!! We would all be falling asleep then.
NG has completely bottled it with his gig set list, his album no matter how much it sold is average in my opinion and all this nonsense of two albums being ready has now turned into a farce because again he has bottled it.
firstly the AA album was to come out in time for the festivals, then it was the end of the year now it's "oh its not ready yet", what a crock of shit.
As I said in another post At least LG has some feckin balls and honesty, he always plays it from the heart, so for that reason I'm in!
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Post by Bellboy on Mar 14, 2012 8:16:44 GMT -5
This is one of the weak points of Oasis, Noel and Liam: they were so limited and afraid of when taking their music to new horizons. That is the little big difference between a great band who craves and aspires to new sounds (Beatles, U2, The Who, The Kinks) and those who stay in their comfort zone, whatever it means. The only time the band tried something different was in SOTSOG and the results were amazing, but then they returned to their cliches in HC. Well Said. I actually tend to agree. Although The Who developed their "sound" over time whist experimenting, as have U2 to a certain extent. The Beatles however!!..used different styles & continued to change & evolve over time, only coming back to their musical roots in the end with Let It Be. Oasis had this potential to evolve especially around the turn of the century. The DOYS bonus disc seemed a bit like a last minute rush to experiment, and alot of it was great too! I doubt Beady Eye will do this without Noel's influence TBH. Is it a shame? I dunno, It maybe just too late for all that. I do have faith in Andy Bell's songs to be a bit different though but Beady Eye as a whole are an old school Rock N' Roll band, which "sound" like Oasis. |
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Post by truefaith on Mar 14, 2012 10:08:34 GMT -5
Thank the lord he is not going to morph into his brother!! We would all be falling asleep then. NG has completely bottled it with his gig set list, his album no matter how much it sold is average in my opinion and all this nonsense of two albums being ready has now turned into a farce because again he has bottled it. firstly the AA album was to come out in time for the festivals, then it was the end of the year now it's "oh its not ready yet", what a crock of shit. As I said in another post At least LG has some feckin balls and honesty, he always plays it from the heart, so for that reason I'm in! You seem to have a lot of rage toward a man you don't even know. Seems a bit odd if you are a grown-up. Yoga? Breathing exercises? Shut up, he has the right to critisize Noel if he wants to. Go back to NG section if you can't stand it and learn how to be funny because you're just not. |
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Post by RocketMan on Mar 14, 2012 10:10:36 GMT -5
i'm not even bothered to read through all this
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Post by spaneli on Mar 14, 2012 10:12:35 GMT -5
You seem to have a lot of rage toward a man you don't even know. Seems a bit odd if you are a grown-up. Yoga? Breathing exercises? Shut up, he has the right to critisize Noel if he wants to. Go back to NG section if you can't stand it and learn how to be funny because you're just not. Seems a bit hypocritical. imo You're telling one person to shut up, while telling them they should respect someone else's opinion. |
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Post by truefaith on Mar 14, 2012 10:15:21 GMT -5
Shut up, he has the right to critisize Noel if he wants to. Go back to NG section if you can't stand it and learn how to be funny because you're just not. Seems a bit hypocritical. imo You're telling one person to shut up, while telling them they should respect someone else's opinion. Because he's not respecting his opinion, he's patronizing. One guy doesn't like Noel's album and the other tells him to do "yoga", doesn't seem like a respectfull comment imo. If at leat it was funny. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 14, 2012 10:43:59 GMT -5
Enough with people going on about Liam still finding his 'writing legs' He is a 40 year old man who has been looking for his writing legs for 15 years. Honestly most of the song writers on this forum are better then him. Agree with the first half of this (I disagree with the second half, as Liam's written a few nice songs in his career) The idea that LG is going to blossom into something better than he has shown at this point is ridiculous. He's a 40 year old, modestly talented songwriter who is known for being set in his ways. He's proven himself useful for a good song or two per album and that's it. He's not going to morph into his brother. Good point. When you break it down Liam has been writing songs since 2000 and is now almost 40 years old. He's written some good tunes, some averages tunes and a dud here and there. Par for the course. Not many people blossom that late into their careers regardless of what age they picked up the pen. |
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Post by Peter Irish on Mar 14, 2012 10:44:02 GMT -5
for the record i love NG, I am a lifelong fan but the fact is, and its there to be seen, he is a bit of a bottle merchant who messes his fans about.
still he gave me a soundtrack to my generation and LG still inspires me so alls right i suppose
( what was That looney spouting about up there ^^^)
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Post by disconnected1976 on Mar 14, 2012 16:06:10 GMT -5
This is one of the weak points of Oasis, Noel and Liam: they were so limited and afraid of when taking their music to new horizons. That is the little big difference between a great band who craves and aspires to new sounds (Beatles, U2, The Who, The Kinks) and those who stay in their comfort zone, whatever it means. The only time the band tried something different was in SOTSOG and the results were amazing, but then they returned to their cliches in HC. agree with you entirely except for U2. They havent done anything experimental since 1997's Pop. They're totally guilty of continually sticking to the same formula and playing it safe No Line On The Horizon was a bit more daring than the previous two... Oasis have never been good at experimenting. SOTSOG kind of worked but it still sounded like they tried too hard putting loops and synths over their very conservative songwriting. It was hardly Screamadelica...and if the Death In Vegas sessions failed, it's probably for a reason. What they've been good at is doing Oasis in a slighlty weirder way like on DOYS, I'm listening to To Be Where there's Life and it's really one of the best things they've done in recent years, BDI should just do more stuff like that, let go a bit. |
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Post by deadman on Mar 14, 2012 17:01:01 GMT -5
2013 for the Beady Eye album, according to Liam in the XFM interview. Demoing tracks at the moment, will be in the studio after the Fuji Festival gig.
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Post by thuperthonic on Mar 14, 2012 17:41:11 GMT -5
Take your time, Liam, take your time...
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Post by aaronon on Mar 18, 2012 20:04:48 GMT -5
Seriously?!? That is poor. Poor poor poor. Only at the demo stage? He talked the talk about wanting to release albums on a year basis yet here we are with a two year gap minimum. Seems Noel was the one who wanted to write and release a lot. Two albums from Noel by the time Liam has released one! Hope that interview is wrong  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 18, 2012 21:29:31 GMT -5
Seriously?!? That is poor. Poor poor poor. Only at the demo stage? He talked the talk about wanting to release albums on a year basis yet here we are with a two year gap minimum. Seems Noel was the one who wanted to write and release a lot. Two albums from Noel by the time Liam has released one! Hope that interview is wrong I'd rather they take their time as well. Early 2013 is fine for me. If the tunes aren't there, why force it? Lets get a solid 11 song album with good b-sides for 2013! |
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Post by doco on Mar 18, 2012 22:38:59 GMT -5
Liam should give the autotune a rest for this new album.
Most of the songs on DFSS were left overs from Oasis so it will be interesting to see what they can come up with in an 18 month period. Liam's best song for me was Born on a Diff Cloud
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Post by thomas09 on Mar 19, 2012 4:20:33 GMT -5
Liam should give the autotune a rest for this new album. Most of the songs on DFSS were left overs from Oasis so it will be interesting to see what they can come up with in an 18 month period. Liam's best song for me was Born on a Diff Cloudi honestly dont notice any autotune whatsoever, any place it stands out the most? also, maybe the fact that they have to come up with totally brand new songs is the reason the albums not coming out as quick as liam said originally... |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 19, 2012 4:48:22 GMT -5
Ahhh the old autotune argument. Anyone who wants to be enlightened on that should search ToneBender's post's. He's a professional I believe and explained it well months ago.
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