hypermyth
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Post by hypermyth on Feb 19, 2012 14:42:37 GMT -5
MG was recorded in two weeks, so why can't BDI2 be good ?as far i'm concerned i think that recording it in more time won't make it better Rushing a follow up to a massively selling and highly acclaimed album is one thing. Rushing a follow up to something which only got lukewarm praise at best is another. i agree,but i have to say that DGSS wasn't that bad ,i mean ,there are song like FLW that are fuckin' good but on the other hand there's fuckin' BTL, so if they make more sonds like FLW the new album could be massive |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 19, 2012 16:35:50 GMT -5
Rushing a follow up to a massively selling and highly acclaimed album is one thing. Rushing a follow up to something which only got lukewarm praise at best is another. i agree,but i have to say that DGSS wasn't that bad ,i mean ,there are song like FLW that are fuckin' good but on the other hand there's fuckin' BTL, so if they make more sonds like FLW the new album could be massive The difference between MG being recorded in two weeks and possibly Beady Eye's second album being recorded just as fast is the former had Noel Gallagher in his prime writing classic tune after classic tune. Beady Eye has LAG. Liam is still developing and Andy/Gem have probably written their best songs long ago. |
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Post by truefaith on Feb 19, 2012 17:47:40 GMT -5
i agree,but i have to say that DGSS wasn't that bad ,i mean ,there are song like FLW that are fuckin' good but on the other hand there's fuckin' BTL, so if they make more sonds like FLW the new album could be massive The difference between MG being recorded in two weeks and possibly Beady Eye's second album being recorded just as fast is the former had Noel Gallagher in his prime writing classic tune after classic tune. Beady Eye has LAG. Liam is still developing and Andy/Gem have probably written their best songs long ago.I totally agree with this. I think Andy is still able to make some good tunes (like TUTS) bt his best days are far behind him. Liam's songwritting is still developping but shows some real promise, he's able of great tunes (BWTB, IOT, MS, Songbird), but he needs to tell the difference between them and the shits he can write also. But he's the most talented of them. |
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Post by space75gr on Feb 19, 2012 18:00:45 GMT -5
they can do whatever they f****g want.
they proved they can write a proper very good album.they have their fans, their gigs are great, press follow them
no stress about big sales and number ones ( even if they want to...)
who needs all these useless things when we can have tracks such as wigwam or morning son?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 19, 2012 18:25:42 GMT -5
i agree,but i have to say that DGSS wasn't that bad ,i mean ,there are song like FLW that are fuckin' good but on the other hand there's fuckin' BTL, so if they make more sonds like FLW the new album could be massive The difference between MG being recorded in two weeks and possibly Beady Eye's second album being recorded just as fast is the former had Noel Gallagher in his prime writing classic tune after classic tune. Beady Eye has LAG. Liam is still developing and Andy/Gem have probably written their best songs long ago. You seem to be confusing whats a good and bad song with whether its rushed. You could work on a bad song for as long as you like but it wouldn't make it better. You can't polish a turd as they say. The fact is, saying a song is rushed is just an easy way for some people to articulate their dislike for a song especially if its nothing specific that they dislike. Dylan recorded nearly all of his album Desire in one session with little or no over dubs. Some songs were even a first take. Its one of his finest records too. Would you describe this as rushed? |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 19, 2012 23:35:44 GMT -5
When people are saying rushed they aren't necessarily just talking about the recording process.
Also meaning rushing into the studio without having the songs.
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Post by manualex on Feb 19, 2012 23:55:30 GMT -5
When people are saying rushed they aren't necessarily just talking about the recording process. Also meaning rushing into the studio without having the songs. The beatles were masters of not rushing into studio without songs. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2012 3:32:54 GMT -5
When people are saying rushed they aren't necessarily just talking about the recording process. Also meaning rushing into the studio without having the songs. Most of the time its still just perception. If you don't like an album you would say they didn't have the songs but the people who wrote those songs may believe in them a lot. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 20, 2012 7:02:29 GMT -5
they can do whatever they f****g want. they proved they can write a proper very good album.they have their fans, their gigs are great, press follow them no stress about big sales and number ones ( even if they want to...) who needs all these useless things when we can have tracks such as wigwam or morning son? exactly! being number 1 has to do nothin with it. tunes like Wigwam and Morning son are CLASS A tunes ..... for us! not for the people who like the charts at the moment (david guetta, dj fresh ft. rita ora etc. etc.) morning glory is a great album but it would be great too if they had recorded it 3 years later, when britpop wasn't that big anymore and they would not have gone anywhere near top 10, because the tunes could be the same, just the preferences of the folks at that time made it to the classic it is! personally for me "Don't believe the truth" is a much better Oasis record but i know, that they just got moring glory finished in the best time for this kind of music. so i'm not excited abouth Beady Eye trying to write a #1 hit, which could convince people about them. they should do whatever they want and they convince ME! |
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hypermyth
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Post by hypermyth on Feb 20, 2012 7:59:02 GMT -5
they can do whatever they f****g want. they proved they can write a proper very good album.they have their fans, their gigs are great, press follow them no stress about big sales and number ones ( even if they want to...) who needs all these useless things when we can have tracks such as wigwam or morning son? totally agree with you mate |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Feb 20, 2012 8:05:07 GMT -5
I don't know shit about rushing it, or music, or melodies, but for some reason or another, I have confidence that Beady Eye will put out, if not a record, at least a collection of songs I like.
If they are putting it out in one month or twenty four I will still think the same thing
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Post by psj3809 on Feb 20, 2012 11:08:58 GMT -5
I am a big fan of Beady Eye, do like a lot of their songs but its a shame they dont seem to be bigger, still need that 'killer' tune. I'm excited about a 2nd album 'soon' but i think its a real important one, if it comes out and gets crap reviews then it'll be a long year or two for the band and i could see them stopping sadly.
Has to be an epic one for BDI to really make a name for themselves so its not just hardcore ex-Oasis fans buying up the album/tickets for the tour.
Like i say i'm a big fan, just want the band to do well and be bigger.
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Post by Bellboy on Feb 20, 2012 11:25:09 GMT -5
I don't know shit about rushing it, or music, or melodies, but for some reason or another, I have confidence that Beady Eye will put out, if not a record, at least a collection of songs I like. If they are putting it out in one month or twenty four I will still think the same thing I agree here. "The chips are down you're in a daze, but win or lose you feel the same" Look let's not be critical from the start. Give BDI2 some credit & excitement. I personally think the album will be out this year & can't wait! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 15:19:45 GMT -5
Buzzing for this. Does anyone know who's producing it yet??? Please not Lillywhite again... Funny how almost every song sounded better live than on his record production...
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Post by spaneli on Feb 24, 2012 15:22:56 GMT -5
Buzzing for this. Does anyone know who's producing it yet??? Please not Lillywhite again... Funny how almost every song sounded better live than on his record production... I thought that Lillywhite was one of the highlights of the album. I truly think that he did an amazing job on the songs. He and Liam made many of the songs better than they were. And if you're a good live band, I would think that you would like for your songs to sound better live than on the record. You certainly wouldn't want them to sound worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 15:34:57 GMT -5
I think his production on four letter word had brilliant production but songs like Beatles and stones stand out for me, that sounds best live when Liam shouts that he just "wants to rock and ROLL" but his raw vocals were too heavily produced and so it ends up all sounding like lame mid-tempo fillers. Add to the fact that that the album sounds like its from the '60's even though it was released in 2011
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Post by gdforever on Feb 24, 2012 15:36:49 GMT -5
Buzzing for this. Does anyone know who's producing it yet??? Please not Lillywhite again... Funny how almost every song sounded better live than on his record production... I thought that Lillywhite was one of the highlights of the album. I truly think that he did an amazing job on the songs. He and Liam made many of the songs better than they were. And if you're a good live band, I would think that you would like for your songs to sound better live than on the record. You certainly wouldn't want them to sound worse. And Chris |
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Post by truefaith on Feb 24, 2012 15:38:12 GMT -5
I think his production on four letter word had brilliant production but songs like Beatles and stones stand out for me, that sounds best live when Liam shouts that he just "wants to rock and ROLL" but his raw vocals were too heavily produced and so it ends up all sounding like lame mid-tempo fillers. Add to the fact that that the album sounds like its from the '60's even though it was released in 2011 And Standing on the edge is an awfull tune, but the production sure doesn't help it. |
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Post by icebreath on Feb 25, 2012 4:28:11 GMT -5
I think his production on four letter word had brilliant production but songs like Beatles and stones stand out for me, that sounds best live when Liam shouts that he just "wants to rock and ROLL" but his raw vocals were too heavily produced and so it ends up all sounding like lame mid-tempo fillers. Add to the fact that that the album sounds like its from the '60's even though it was released in 2011 And Standing on the edge is an awfull tune, but the production sure doesn't help it. I agree at the second part, i don't think it's awful though. This version should have been in the album. |
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Post by reevzieoasis on Feb 26, 2012 15:38:27 GMT -5
i thought the first album was a good solid album. nothing amazing but some really nice songs on it. The only ones i really skip are 3 ring circus and wind up dream. the rest i think are good and if they werent judged against the band they were in before and looked at on their own merit there'd be more positive hype about beady eye.. then again one thing that i see all the time is reviewers who'd praised beady eye when they released the album slagging it off now noels released stuff. nearly every gig review of noel says beady eyes efforts recieved a luke warm response, when i thought it was pretty positive. noel is teh media darling and tehy seem to love sticking the boot into liam every time they mention him. and i think he loves it too, in some interviews he's tried to distance himself from the way oasis were in the latter years, when it was him who decided the direction of every album.
i honelstly dont think it matters if beady eyes second album is amazing, i think the british press have now decided theyre shit and noel is great.
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Post by aaronon on Mar 5, 2012 18:51:14 GMT -5
Any more news? On first listen I was impressed with DGSS. . .but the more it went on the more I only really liked Half of the album!
I also doubt that "it needs to be mixed and songs chosen. . ." - surely the songs would be chosen during demo's as opposed to put all the effort into songs that won't be mixed. :S
I appreciate that Liam loves old school rock and roll but I hope they stay away from Lillywhite he MADE the album sound old - and although this was the intention I hope they don't do it again. I want it to be influenced by old songs - without wanting to sound like them technically! I want modern sounding rock and roll with great tunes and modern techniques and styles! Liam and the band are capable of it. Less of this retro stuff with vocal effects please!
Hopefully we'll get news of it soon?
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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2012 19:57:07 GMT -5
Actually, going in a direction with an electronic sound like Kasabian would do Beady Eye wonders I think.
That said, The Morning Son is amazing and Four Letter Word is a great rocker. Apart from the odd little pop ditty here and there (like For Anyone), there's nothing of any note from DGSS in my opinion.
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Post by thuperthonic on Mar 5, 2012 23:29:32 GMT -5
Actually, going in a direction with an electronic sound like Kasabian would do Beady Eye wonders I think. . This, please. I don't even like Kasabian, but the thought of Liam snarling over the top of a good beat is enticing. |
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Post by Cast on Mar 6, 2012 0:18:14 GMT -5
Actually, going in a direction with an electronic sound like Kasabian would do Beady Eye wonders I think. . This, please. I don't even like Kasabian, but the thought of Liam snarling over the top of a good beat is enticing. The sounds of Scorpio Rising are just a hint of what Liam and the crew could experiment with. Great idea matt. Kasabian are a solid enough band but if BDI did their own take on that kind of electronic, Primal Screamish rock I think they'd come out with something pretty solid and far more rewarding then some cheap reworkings or rather caricatures of classic rock tunes/vibes that we saw on DGSS. |
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Post by disconnected1976 on Mar 6, 2012 2:45:46 GMT -5
They should just be themselves more, hopefully they'll get rid of the Oasis stuff and they'll write whole new material. They should push more into things like Bring The Light, the less they sound like Oasis being Oasis, the better they are to me. And good for them if they're already done. Bands in the 60's and 70's would make records in weeks or even days. Oasis made 3 albums and the equivalent of a big chunky fourth one in 3 years. Pink Floyd, Dylan, the Stones, they were all releasing one record every year for a very long time.
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