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Post by retrolego on Feb 8, 2012 14:54:01 GMT -5
He's resigned after Terry had the armband taken away who do you think should/will replace him.
Favourite by far is Harry Redknapp but others in contention like Pardew etc who do you thin should replace him?
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Post by shaokahnage on Feb 8, 2012 15:08:19 GMT -5
I'd love Martin O'Neil to do it
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 8, 2012 15:22:55 GMT -5
In order of preference:
Redknapp
O'Neil
Pardew
Hodgson
Pearce
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Post by matt on Feb 8, 2012 15:23:00 GMT -5
Don't know what the obsession is with one time FA Cup winner Harry Redknapp. As a Scot, I am going to be very impartial here but do English football fans really think 'Arry's 1970s style football is the way forward? Capello was far too advanced a coach for the England team, unfortunately got the blame for it all but in reality the England team's failure says more about English football than Capello. It's backwards methods are so out of date I actually can't believe the idiots in the media actually think England is capable of challenging for honours.
The FA have all the money available to them so why don't they use it to bring in thousands and thousands more coaches to coach youngsters. This is what happened in Spain in the 1990s - the coaching base was expanded considerably - and just look at what's happened to them. England, in comparison with the major nations such as France, Spain and Italy, have a tiny base of coaches. It's no coincidence then that all those European nations mentioned there, have all won tournaments in over the last decade and that England, apart from one World Cup in 1966, have got nowhere near to winning anything. But the FA are too narrow minded, just like the typical Little Englander, and believe they have the divine right to win but they fail to realise their shortcomings.
Until the FA make major grassroot changes to English football, then we can expect more of the same resignations and failures.
If I were to recommend a coach, it would be Martin O Neill. If I were to go for an English guy, I would take a punt on Gareth Southgate. He's young and forward thinking - surprisingly for an English manager has got ideas.
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 8, 2012 15:26:53 GMT -5
Don't know what the obsession is with one time FA Cup winner Harry Redknapp. As a Scot, I am going to be very impartial here but do English football fans really think 'Arry's 1970s style football is the way forward? Capello was far too advanced a coach for the England team, unfortunately got the blame for it all but in reality the England team's failure says more about English football than Capello. It's backwards methods are so out of date I actually can't believe the idiots in the media actually think England is capable of challenging for honours. The FA have all the money available to them so why don't they use it to bring in thousands and thousands more coaches to coach youngsters. This is what happened in Spain in the 1990s - the coaching base was expanded considerably - and just look at what's happened to them. England, in comparison with the major nations such as France, Spain and Italy, have a tiny base of coaches. It's no coincidence then that all those European nations mentioned there, have all won tournaments in over the last decade and that England, apart from one World Cup in 1966, have got nowhere near to winning anything. But the FA are too narrow minded, just like the typical Little Englander, and believe they have the divine right to win but they fail to realise their shortcomings. Until the FA make major grassroot changes to English football, then we can expect more of the same resignations and failures. Hold up....isn't this the same style of football which has been widely regarded by many people this season to say it's the best played this season? His football is usually exciting and unpredictable and seeing how Spurs could, even as just outsiders, still win the league at a stretch shows just how good a manager he is. Not to mention everything he has done previously with Bournemouth and West Ham and winning the FA Cup as unlikely as it was, with Portsmouth So yes, he is the right man Also just want to add, am glad Capello has gone because I always felt he never really cared how it went, as proved with the World Cup in 2010. Barely spoke English and thats just awful. Don't get me wrong, I was never against a non-english manager, just as long as they can speak the language and able to get their message across, thats all that matters |
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Post by matt on Feb 8, 2012 15:30:16 GMT -5
Don't know what the obsession is with one time FA Cup winner Harry Redknapp. As a Scot, I am going to be very impartial here but do English football fans really think 'Arry's 1970s style football is the way forward? Capello was far too advanced a coach for the England team, unfortunately got the blame for it all but in reality the England team's failure says more about English football than Capello. It's backwards methods are so out of date I actually can't believe the idiots in the media actually think England is capable of challenging for honours. The FA have all the money available to them so why don't they use it to bring in thousands and thousands more coaches to coach youngsters. This is what happened in Spain in the 1990s - the coaching base was expanded considerably - and just look at what's happened to them. England, in comparison with the major nations such as France, Spain and Italy, have a tiny base of coaches. It's no coincidence then that all those European nations mentioned there, have all won tournaments in over the last decade and that England, apart from one World Cup in 1966, have got nowhere near to winning anything. But the FA are too narrow minded, just like the typical Little Englander, and believe they have the divine right to win but they fail to realise their shortcomings. Until the FA make major grassroot changes to English football, then we can expect more of the same resignations and failures. Hold up....isn't this the same style of football which has been widely regarded by many people this season to say it's the best played this season? His football is usually exciting and unpredictable and seeing how Spurs could, even as just outsiders, still win the league at a stretch shows just how good a manager he is. Not to mention everything he has done previously with Bournemouth and West Ham and winning the FA Cup as unlikely as it was, with Portsmouth So yes, he is the right man Also just want to add, am glad Capello has gone because I always felt he never really cared how it went, as proved with the World Cup in 2010. Barely spoke English and thats just awful. Don't get me wrong, I was never against a non-english manager, just as long as they can speak the language and able to get their message across, thats all that matters Well a football team is going to look good with great players, which Tottenham have. Not to mention the amount of money that was pumped into that squad. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 8, 2012 15:34:34 GMT -5
Don't know what the obsession is with one time FA Cup winner Harry Redknapp. As a Scot, I am going to be very impartial here but do English football fans really think 'Arry's 1970s style football is the way forward? Capello was far too advanced a coach for the England team, unfortunately got the blame for it all but in reality the England team's failure says more about English football than Capello. It's backwards methods are so out of date I actually can't believe the idiots in the media actually think England is capable of challenging for honours. The FA have all the money available to them so why don't they use it to bring in thousands and thousands more coaches to coach youngsters. This is what happened in Spain in the 1990s - the coaching base was expanded considerably - and just look at what's happened to them. England, in comparison with the major nations such as France, Spain and Italy, have a tiny base of coaches. It's no coincidence then that all those European nations mentioned there, have all won tournaments in over the last decade and that England, apart from one World Cup in 1966, have got nowhere near to winning anything. But the FA are too narrow minded, just like the typical Little Englander, and believe they have the divine right to win but they fail to realise their shortcomings. Until the FA make major grassroot changes to English football, then we can expect more of the same resignations and failures. If I were to recommend a coach, it would be Martin O Neill. If I were to go for an English guy, I would take a punt on Gareth Southgate. He's young and forward thinking - surprisingly for an English manager has got ideas. You say you are impartial? Isn't Arsenal your team down here. I can only conclude from most of your post that you don't in fact watch football. Spurs have comfortably played the best football in the prem this season. They have been a joy to watch partly due to the aggresiveness of their manager. I don't care what time period its from, its good football that Harry likes to play. Most of the teams under his charge have played good football. Capello was playing quite turgid Italian tactics, they were effective up to a point but lets not paint him as some sort of visionary. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 8, 2012 15:45:19 GMT -5
Don't know what the obsession is with one time FA Cup winner Harry Redknapp. As a Scot, I am going to be very impartial here but do English football fans really think 'Arry's 1970s style football is the way forward? Capello was far too advanced a coach for the England team, unfortunately got the blame for it all but in reality the England team's failure says more about English football than Capello. It's backwards methods are so out of date I actually can't believe the idiots in the media actually think England is capable of challenging for honours. The FA have all the money available to them so why don't they use it to bring in thousands and thousands more coaches to coach youngsters. This is what happened in Spain in the 1990s - the coaching base was expanded considerably - and just look at what's happened to them. England, in comparison with the major nations such as France, Spain and Italy, have a tiny base of coaches. It's no coincidence then that all those European nations mentioned there, have all won tournaments in over the last decade and that England, apart from one World Cup in 1966, have got nowhere near to winning anything. But the FA are too narrow minded, just like the typical Little Englander, and believe they have the divine right to win but they fail to realise their shortcomings. Until the FA make major grassroot changes to English football, then we can expect more of the same resignations and failures. If I were to recommend a coach, it would be Martin O Neill. If I were to go for an English guy, I would take a punt on Gareth Southgate. He's young and forward thinking - surprisingly for an English manager has got ideas. You say you are impartial? Isn't Arsenal your team down here. I can only conclude from most of your post that you don't in fact watch football. Spurs have comfortably played the best football in the prem this season. They have been a joy to watch partly due to the aggresiveness of their manager. I don't care what time period its from, its good football that Harry likes to play. Most of the teams under his charge have played good football. Capello was playing quite turgid Italian tactics, they were effective up to a point but lets not paint him as some sort of visionary. If Capello's tactics was the future I'd rather stick with the past but anyway. I agree with everything you just said tom. The football Spurs have been playing is the best in the league bar none. Matt, you also seem to forget that last season Harry also managed to get Spurs into the knockout stages of the Champions League (something that the current 1st and 2nd in the league this year failed to do). Every player respects him, he is passionate about his job. If anyone deserves the chance to take England forward and play better forward, it's Harry Redknapp |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2012 16:39:55 GMT -5
NOT MARTIN O'NEILL.
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 8, 2012 16:45:35 GMT -5
Just chucking it out there:
2 weeks ago the story came out Mourinho said he was coming back to England...everyone (including me) instantly started saying he was going to manage Spurs (Harry as England manager), City, Liverpool, United.....he never actually stated he was managing a club...Just saying.
Either way, it HAS to be Harry Redknapp
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2012 17:27:03 GMT -5
Jose would be perfect....
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 8, 2012 18:47:18 GMT -5
Yes! Hated Fabio. He completely mis-managed that team, and left us in disarray during the 2010 World Cup.
No one could have been worse than McClaren (read: McClown) though. Pathetic.
Now let's get an English gaffer back at the helm again. If the players have to be from the same country, so should the manager, in my opinion.
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Post by matt on Feb 8, 2012 18:52:09 GMT -5
Yes! Hated Fabio. He completely mis-managed that team, and left us in disarray during the 2010 World Cup. No one could have been worse than McClaren (read: McClown) though. Pathetic. Now let's get an English gaffer back at the helm again. If the players have to be from the same country, so should the manager, in my opinion. Us? But you're American.... did you not even support the USA against England in 2010? The fact that England will be happy to have one time FA Cup winner replace a multiple Serie A winner and a European Cup to boast says more about the state of English football than it does for Capello. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 8, 2012 19:00:31 GMT -5
Yes! Hated Fabio. He completely mis-managed that team, and left us in disarray during the 2010 World Cup. No one could have been worse than McClaren (read: McClown) though. Pathetic. Now let's get an English gaffer back at the helm again. If the players have to be from the same country, so should the manager, in my opinion. Us? But you're American.... did you not even support the USA against England in 2010?  |
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Post by Shockmaster on Feb 9, 2012 5:41:54 GMT -5
Harry "Meltface" Twitchtapp... He's just ideal for the job.
He seems like someone who'll tell all the dead weight to fuck off, and he'll bring in all the younger players, but keeping a couple of experienced players (But the good ones, like Parker. Not Terry, Ferdinand, etc.)
He's capable of giving underperforming players a right kick up the arsehole.
Also, he can speak the fucking language, and he gives a shit.
The only problem I can see with it, is that Levy will tell the FA that they need to give Spurs a load of money for Redknapp...
Also, about the best football played this season, Swansea are a good contender for that... Brendan Rogers could be a good shout for new boss?
Oh, and don't worry, HFP, it won't be MO'N...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 10:35:49 GMT -5
Preferably a manager from a team 'too big' to want Paul Lambert as a replacement. I don't give 2 shits about England but if this has a knock on effect resulting in our manager being poached by someone like Spurs, Everton or West Brom I will be extremely pissed off! I'd quite like Colin Wanker though as I find him funny and I would enjoy seeing everything go tits up xD
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 9, 2012 13:33:24 GMT -5
Preferably a manager from a team 'too big' to want Paul Lambert as a replacement. I don't give 2 shits about England but if this has a knock on effect resulting in our manager being poached by someone like Spurs, Everton or West Brom I will be extremely pissed off! I'd quite like Colin Wanker though as I find him funny and I would enjoy seeing everything go tits up xD What an utterly shit opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 16:37:53 GMT -5
^I have lots of those! Would you like to hear some more?  |
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Post by matt7k on Feb 10, 2012 22:54:40 GMT -5
You people do realise that Redknapp advocates a back 4 of Johnson Terry Rio Cole And a midfield trio of Gerard, Lampard and Rooney. The guy's a disaster waiting to happen. Without his wheeling and dealing, I don't see him winning trophies at international level. If you want a manager who really does get results with feeble resources, its David Moyes. The one thing he does have going for him though is that the media love him which is something Yeah, Capello is really shit, right?  Well not really. His reputation was reduced to that of a donkey based on 4 matches (two average performances and two shit performances). If Lampard had scored that equalizer against Germany then who knows. Also, Capello's tactics were not as negative as people seem to think it is for some reason. They just see an Italian manager and instantly assume that he's going to produce something dire. For example, Also, Italian football isn't boring, negative dross as people make it out to be. The top 8 in Serie average almost 3 goals per game. www.zonalmarking.net/2011/02/07/inter-5-3-roma-tactics/www.zonalmarking.net/2011/09/12/palermo-4-3-inter-gasperini-3-4-3-tactics/www.zonalmarking.net/2010/09/13/juventus-3-3-sampdoria-all-out-attack-from-both-sides-produces-a-superb-match/No doubt that Capello did make some errors but some of the criticisms against him have been utterly embarrassing. Apparently, he wasn't English so he sucked is the explanation going about these days. Capello was right to resign after those idiots at the FA decided interfere behind his back. What will it say to his successor? The FA is a joke. They've fucked England out of any chance they had at winning the Euros. The best option out there is probably Hiddink or even Rafa. Redknapp is a disaster waiting to happen, will probably see "I think we could use a foreigner now" comments after his reign if he does take over. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 6:28:03 GMT -5
They could appoint Redknapp, Mourinio or even fucking Glann Roeder and it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference! England are just not good enough and the blame lies with the FA the problem is the coaching at grassroots level and the over emphasis on physical players instead of technically gifted player. too many good young footballers are let go in favor of inferior players who just happen to be taller/stronger/quicker etc. There's also too much emphasis on just winning alone in the youth set ups instead of developing football skills. This is what Spain/Germany etc have got right and it's why for the foreseeable future England will be a second or third tier international team at best!
This is why I just can't be arsed with England. They've just got it so obviously wrong and they seem to have no intention of doing anything about it.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 11, 2012 8:09:33 GMT -5
Matt, I realize Fabio had a good record. But the thing about the England job is that, more often than not, you come up against really easy teams. In this respect, he did well in comparison to the utter disaster that was McClaren, but when it mattered in the World Cup, Fabio was abysmal. I didn't expect to win the the Cup, of course, but I also didn't expect such piss poor results, and, moreover, piss poor performances. We were embarrassing. Now I know what France feels like!
I mean, look how low Venables is. But under him, we got to the Euro 96 Semi-Finals, with a penalty kick or two away from the final itself. That, for me, is more important for an England manager than the actual winning percentage.
It still boggles my mind why FIFA haven't made it mandatory that managers of national teams must hold the same nationality. It makes literally no sense.
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Post by globe on Feb 11, 2012 8:46:12 GMT -5
It still boggles my mind why FIFA haven't made it mandatory that managers of national teams must hold the same nationality. It makes literally no sense. If they were to do that, then they'd have to reign the rules in about players playing for countries they we not born in too. Personally I think that should happen - you should only be allowed to play for the country you were born in, or your parents were born in. Going back to grandparents is a one generation too far for me. Our national manager seems to have a penchant for picking English players with Scottish grannies at the moment  |
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Post by Shockmaster on Feb 11, 2012 8:59:42 GMT -5
It still boggles my mind why FIFA haven't made it mandatory that managers of national teams must hold the same nationality. It makes literally no sense. You're not the only one!!! I think 99% of people with an interest in football think that... It just seems like something that should have happened years ago |
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Post by matt7k on Feb 11, 2012 10:15:25 GMT -5
Matt, I realize Fabio had a good record. But the thing about the England job is that, more often than not, you come up against really easy teams. In this respect, he did well in comparison to the utter disaster that was McClaren, but when it mattered in the World Cup, Fabio was abysmal. I didn't expect to win the the Cup, of course, but I also didn't expect such piss poor results, and, moreover, piss poor performances. We were embarrassing. Now I know what France feels like! I mean, look how low Venables is. But under him, we got to the Euro 96 Semi-Finals, with a penalty kick or two away from the final itself. That, for me, is more important for an England manager than the actual winning percentage. It still boggles my mind why FIFA haven't made it mandatory that managers of national teams must hold the same nationality. It makes literally no sense.Firstly, because of the EU rules, that can't be implemented. Secondly, it would be detrimental to developing football nations who need foreign managers for development. Capello has made mistakes, I don't think there is much debate there. Some of the players also failed him, must be said. Also, with that win over Spain, it appeared as though England were heading in the right direction. I really doubt if nationality was in any way very detrimental here. Heck, Sven was one rated as one of the most successful England managers ever. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 11, 2012 10:54:30 GMT -5
Matt, I realize Fabio had a good record. But the thing about the England job is that, more often than not, you come up against really easy teams. In this respect, he did well in comparison to the utter disaster that was McClaren, but when it mattered in the World Cup, Fabio was abysmal. I didn't expect to win the the Cup, of course, but I also didn't expect such piss poor results, and, moreover, piss poor performances. We were embarrassing. Now I know what France feels like! I mean, look how low Venables is. But under him, we got to the Euro 96 Semi-Finals, with a penalty kick or two away from the final itself. That, for me, is more important for an England manager than the actual winning percentage. It still boggles my mind why FIFA haven't made it mandatory that managers of national teams must hold the same nationality. It makes literally no sense.Firstly, because of the EU rules, that can't be implemented. Secondly, it would be detrimental to developing football nations who need foreign managers for development. Capello has made mistakes, I don't think there is much debate there. Some of the players also failed him, must be said. Also, with that win over Spain, it appeared as though England were heading in the right direction. I really doubt if nationality was in any way very detrimental here. Heck, Sven was one rated as one of the most successful England managers ever. Yes, I understand you can't discriminate jobs based on nationality, etc. But, that being said, isn't being a footballer a job? So if you can discriminate footballers and exclude a Brazilian from the England team, surely the same exception can be made regarding managers, no? Win over Spain!? That was a Friendly! As I have already said, England managers have so many easy and/or meaningless games. Terry took us to the semi finals of the Euros. Give me a poor winning percentage and a strong cup run (for England manager), over a good winning percentage and an embarrassing cup run any day. As for Sven, he was better than Capello, but had similar flaws. Glenn Hoddle was the best post-1996, shame he's such an idiotic person with demented views. |
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