You know, somewhere in a parallel universe exists all these could-have-been's.

When I got DGSS and kept listening to it, I thought it was excellent, and that the songwriting was top. But then NGHFB came out and forced me to compare the two and put them in perspective. DGSS is like an album full of "HIABP" and "GGTIA"s whereas Noel's album is just top notch all the way through. I mean, I love Hung and Abel, but Im still almost amazed that Noel pulled it off as well as he did. I see Beady Eye having a kind of George Harrison-type career with mid sized success, but Noel will have the Macca-esque superstar type career/

With all due respect, I think it's more "rest after a long tour" than it is "Do Or Die" time for the members of Beady Eye and everyone's being a bit melodramatic here. Plenty of smaller bands with lesser material and lesser experience slog on for album after album with limited success. I'm sure the entire time they were touring they were also writing and getting better and better at what they do. Shockingly, playing 150-200 shows in a year tends to do that.

They'll soon come out with a second record and either you'll like it or you won't. They'll never have any problems funding their recording process (as many small bands do), so they can continue to make and tour music as long as they want. So what if they play smaller venues or play less shows in small markets? As long as they're enjoying themselves and the music is decent that's all we should care about. This isn't a team trying to win a playoff spot with a week left in the season.

FWIW, the Beady Eye songs stick in my head quite a bit and I very much prefer their record over Noel's. If we reverse it, I could start tons of threads saying "omg, except for two songs Noel's record sounds like a retread of everything he's ever done, his singing has been crap on the tour, he keeps making these blog posts about how partying gets in the way of singing [aka, he's starting to respect liam more] so he must not be happy, he regularly sets the expectations about the quality of his shows super low and he hasn't sold out his upcoming u.s. tour by a long shot. he better make a good second album or his career is OVER." But I won't, because that would be silly.

100% agree, perfect post.

Noel had been saying similar things himself until he went solo, fwiw. Every subsequent album (including this one) has been "the best thing I've written since Definitely Maybe".

To be fair, what's wrong with Liam saying he's in the best band in the world and wants to be in the biggest band in the world? It's probably just motivation. At the same time he has regularly said (mind you this is paraphrasing), "If people like it, they'll like it. If they want it, they'll buy it. I'll play for 5 people or 500,000 people."

All that being said. You are right that BDI are far from dying...unless the next album bombs and they literally become a joke.

But I have faith there is enough musicianship in that band that they wouldn't release a total turd deserving of absolute scorn.

Bands have continued along for ages selling less that 400K albums worldwide.

I thought sales and success are why this thread exist? If your previous band was successful, would you be happy that your current band isn't really successful? Sales does not gurantee the quality of music, but at least that means people like your output. They're becoming a niche act, of course I would like them to sell more records , and at this moment they have become a laugh for non Oasis fans, great sales would make the haters shut up.

He only said that at first, he really cooled off after if it can make you happy, so basically this statement is almost a year old.
Lately he's been saying, "the smaller th better", or "I'm glad we were 3 place, it gives you somewhere to go", doesn't seem that arrogant to me, just seems motivated.

And once again, it's Liam, he just is that way, arrogant in the media but that's part of who he is, I wouldn't ever want hear him being modest.

If people haven't get that, they don't get Liam as well. Being arrogant is part of who he is, it doesn't mean we have to take his statement seriously, even the more ridiculous ones.

I mean did your really expect every album since SOTSOG to be the best since DM ?
because that's what Liam and Noel were saying every time and it never happened you know.
It doesn't mean fans had to slagg off their album, they just enjoyed them for what they are.

Same thing with BDI, just enjoy it for what it is, if it becomes better great, if not, that's life, but the opinion on their music hasn't to be harsher because Liam said "it's the best band in the world". It's Liam if people don't know how he works by now, where were they for the last 18 years ?

People here should know better since they're supposed to be Oasis fans, if they still taking what's Liam's saying seriously, then...

And for the record, Liam always said that every album was the best since DM, but he wasn't the only one.
Noel said that too, even about HC and it was a pretty ridiculous statement wasn't it ?

And yet fans are still listening to what Noel has to say.

It's just they way they work, Noel was a little more low profile this time, but he was also saying thing like "I have a gift for writing songs, I have to give them to people", "Did she mention how many record I have sold?" at the BBC gig, he also made some coment about coldplay helping a little chart battle.
All of this was funny but not very modest.

Gallagher just aren't modests people, they're arrogant and that's part of their charm.
When I hear Liam saying "it's the best since DM", it makes me laugh, cause I know the character, it doesn't make me want to slagg him off when the album isnt. Of course it isn't, I don't care, I didn't slagg Oasis off when DBTT or DOYS weren't as great as DM either. It's the same fucking thing.
The only difference here is that Liam's hater take what he says seriously this time but didn't when he was in Oasis because of Noel.
Liam is the same he was 15 years ago, he thinks he's great, shocking !People should be used to it by now, at leats fans.

But otherwise you're right, their seling aren't bad at all for a rock band, they're far from being dead but they should make a better album next time around, the first one was made too fast.

If The Twang can make 3 albums, with such critical contempt after their first two (something I don't understand, mind, but that's for another thread in another section), then so can BDI......

He's clearly not an asshole. The 2 of them just do not get along, but the media continues their b.s. because the brothers keep feeding them. If they'd just shut up about each other and refuse to comment, there would be no story. They're both to blame for the continuation of the nonsense.

It's funny how some people think its so odd that they don't get together for holidays and how amazed they are that they don't get along, as if they're the first pair of brothers to have issues with each other. EVERY family has some form of bullshit they're dealing with. Everyone has a family member of 2 that's just an idiot for seemingly no reason. It's just part of life, but some people in the media act as if it's so strange. It's just another societal thing where you pretend everything is great on the surface. The Gallaghers though, are too honest for their own good in this case. Most people keep everything quiet to keep up the facade, but they just come out and admit they hate each other.

Of course Liam isn't as bad as the haters say. No one is really as bad as their worst critics say.

But he doesn't do himself any favour with the hyperbole about BDI, or the SHITBAG twitter comments, or not thanking Noel at the Brits.

Especially the Brits.

That had been by far his single biggest audience since the split in the UK and he snubbed an integral bandmate and threw an award into the crowd. Some fans understood the idea of kind of giving the award back to the people...but from what I understand it didn't read well on TV.

But calling time of death on BDI is a bit premature. They're in no worse a place then they were 6 months ago. Nothing has changed. They need to improve or at least keep up the quality to keep their fans. But no more or less than every other band out there (except Coldplay who can put any old shit out )

Liam isn't going to give up until it literally doesn't pay to do it anymore IMO.