Total waste of a human being you say, have you even listened to the Libertines? Many people people fall victim to drugs and it is so easy to call them wasters and junkies but the fact is it is hard to get out of that cycle. Liam and Noel were both on drugs for many years so are they scummy junkies or even John Lennon was on every kind of drug during his life but he still wrote brilliant music.
I'm not advocating drug usage but you can't call Pete Doherty a waste of a human being for taking drugs. People have different musical tastes I suppose but listen to the Libertines two albums and tell me that he hasn't contributed something very positive to this world.

I missed the High Flying Birds gig but went to the Beady Eye one and it was a great show but I think once again this has gotta be the Apples and Oranges comparison.

I mean gig opener 4Letter Word from Beady Eye or an Oasis song from High Flying Birds?.... People who want to hear Oasis songs will truly enjoy the Noel show and Oasis fans who like Beady Eye will have come to expect only Beady Eye songs at their gigs.


At the San Francisco gig when World Outside My Room ended and Liam told the crowd that Sons of the Stage is the last song, I realized I wanted to hear more from Beady Eye but they just played all their songs.

I still listen to DGSS and have grown bored of NGHFB, I prefer Liam's voice over Noel's hands down.

Having seen both now it is not even close.

Noel's show was ten times better. Better songs, better atmosphere.

BDI: enjoyable but their best song is the opener, its going downhill after that...
NGHFB: huge.

The end.

THIS!!!
Same here, I went to both Noels gigs thinking they were going to be rockin and they weren't. The vibe was incredibly mellow, ppl texting throughout the entire gig, facebooking, having full blown conversations, ppl arriving mid way through the set etc etc. Noel may have the better quality songs but, what's the point if you cant deliver them? I noticed that the only time his gigs picked up was when he played OASIS songs and WAL, you take those 9 Oasis songs out and what kind of gig do you really think there's going to be?
BE, the entire time I was glued to the stage, Liam is the REAL DEAL, he has the ability to keep his audience completely captivated something Noel lacks. As for any more Noel gigs, I'll still go but, I'm not doing multiple shows. BE, I'll definitely travel to see them. Pissed I didn't go see them the day before in Frisco. Too far and not enough time off from work to go to the midwest and catch those gigs.

galpsych, it was very cool meeting you at the gig. K++

Oasis was an amazing live act, we had a rock n roll show by Liam (MG, C&A, Lyla...) some mid tempo moment by Noel (HTWA,TIOBI,...) and some anthems by Liam (Supersonic, Live forever, Wonderwall) and Noel (DLBIA).

Now, what are we stuck with?

Still a good rock n roll show by Liam but with a lack of songs, no anthems, no real deal song that make you shiver, but still an amazing frontman, a great band and a fucking rock n roll energy.

On the other hand, we have a mid tempo gigs, with absolutely no rock n roll energy, with nostalgia (supersonic, wonderwall), with an average band (and an horrible drumer), an average frontman, classy but not charismatic enough and not relax enough and not with an amazing voice at all (we can barely hear him in the mix), and still some great moments with Oasis anthems (HTWA,DLBIA).

So there's no winner here, no surprise, Liam's an amazing born frontman, Noel is an amazing born songwritter. Separatly their show will always be good but never even close to Oasis magic.

So maybe for now Noel has the best show, but it's mostly because of few of his solo songs and the 9 oasis songs. Not at all because the performance is better than BDI. Next year, BDI will have an hoppefully better second album and will play some Oasis songs. We'll see if everyone's so crazy about supersonic in accoustic after that.

Anyway, between the Noel's album and his live show, it's now very obvious how Liam was essential to Oasis. Just sayin' in case some people still think Oasis was just about Noel.

Basically you're looking for an Oasis-substitute. Cheers, nice to know, fair enough.


And also others may think that the Beady Eye record is also the better record, yes? Of course, you didn't also look at it at that perspective, because otherwise it would make your socalled justification moot, wouldn't it? you scamp

Ahh, I see, okay: it's not really the point that you add more non-Oasis songs into the preference than, say, Oasis songs, but you made it a point to add the Oasis songs within that mix (e.g. "There is no gig out there that I can hear...Wonderwall...Supersonic...DLBIA [at the moment, like]" etc etc.

You see, given the ambient volume of your own live4ever.proboards.com life's noise of spin and rhetoric and context that I know I'm not alone in finding you more than dependable on the subjective realm. So as far as the "personal pronoun" as modifier is concerned, being "personal" is not as really front-loaded as you would suggest, the one that I expect for those--who prefer a Beady Eye gig over a Noel Gallagher's Flying Birds--winces at and would prefer not to see you utter or rather, suggest even in the most reassuring context, since the rhetoric of such reassurances can be self-nullifying, like how you asserted that "There is no gig out there that I can hear EOTR, Wonderwall, TIOBI, TDOYAM, BA, RM, SOTWB, WAL, Supersonic, HTWA, IIHAG, DLBIA, and Freaky Teeth at.", which is quite redundant, considering all the Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds songs, for what I know, have only been performed by the Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds in a front of a paying audience, in front of proper fans of said band, at a proper venue no less. As in, say, running a classified ad for oneself as a caretaker of children and putting "DON'T WORRY -- NOT A PEDOPHILE!" at the bottom of the ad.

You see, my general point is I suspect that part of why the "personal" is so loaded and dicey a position in regards to exclusivity here is that it is so much-invoked here that it is a form of a dismissal of the other side without you being aware of it, or at least willing to admit-- that YOU lack self-awareness, even though you had used the "personal" as a crux, of just how much subcontracting and outsourcing you really do. Case in point: you have resort to slandering me of being duplicitous, of course such self-assuredness is as false and hasty as your determined transparency.

Dude, we're just a bunch of fans here. Not friends. We all have our preferences within our fandom, and we're here to express them. That is not a bad thing. Obviously, there isn't enough of an outlet for us to express them in the rest of our daily lives so we come here and talk about the band we loved so fucking much it made us want to talk about them every day, and sometimes we don't care what anyone else thinks. It's ok. It's passion.

Your mind, brilliant as it may be, might benefit from being put to better use.

K+

For those saying it's stupid to hope Noel would be rock. Well sorry, I know Noel's show aren't supposed to be rock but I'm not glad about it. I don't ask him to do "rock n roll star", I just ask him to put a little bit of energy and to sing louder, it's really hard to hear him. I don't think it's that much to ask.

I mean Noel isn't supposed to be rock at all? My mistake, I thought he was Oasis guitarist and songwritter for 18 years, I though he wrote DM and I though he was part of a great rockn roll show with Oasis.
So I don't see why everyone is so glad his gigs are so calm now. In Oasis gigs, I like the moments when Noel was singing, it cooled off after the madness of the first songs, it was a different vibe. But now, it's just this different vibe, it 's really good, but it doesn't touch the sky like it used to.

And for the last time, Noel hasn't a great stage presence as a singer whereas he had as a guitarist and hasn't a strong voice at all. He can't sing any of the high notes on TDOYAM or WAL. He can't deliver all his solo material even if the songs are great. He's fine on IIAG but the drumer is awfull.