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Post by oasisshare on Nov 19, 2011 7:08:02 GMT -5
Having seen NGHFB two weeks ago and Beady Eye two nights ago, I can honestly say I had more fun at the Beady Eye gig, which surprised me. There was more energy and the crowd was much more into it. I completely thought the same as some of you on here recently, "Beady Eye are done," and completely began to write them off. But anyone who's seen them in the last couple days would agree that they are far from done. I went into both shows knowing the exact songs I'd be hearing live, and I enjoyed both gigs greatly but strangely found myself a bit bored (if lack for a better word) at Noel's gig. What a waste of setlist space by throwing in Importance of Being Idle, Half the World Away, It's Good To Be Free, and Talk Tonight. Been there, done that. I could do without hearing any of those songs live again. Keep in Wonderwall/Supersonic as they've been completely revamped, and maybe even DLBIA for sentimental purposes, but fill in the blanks with Simple Game of Genius, Stop the Clocks, Lord Shine a Light on Me, Alone on the Rope and even I'd Pick You Everytime and you got yourself a true High Flying Birds gig.
Good on Liam & co for sticking to their own tunes and not relying on Oasis songs of the past. They've received a lot of scrutiny over the last couple months as we've moved our excitement from Beady Eye to High Flying Birds, but let's not write them off yet. With new songs recently showing up during soundchecks, there is much greatness yet to come yet.
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Post by J.B on Nov 19, 2011 7:54:02 GMT -5
Things would have been very different for Beady Eye had they thrown in songs like Live Forever, Songbird, Supersonic, Morning Glory etc. when playing live.
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Post by songbirdsally on Nov 19, 2011 8:00:40 GMT -5
What a waste of setlist space by throwing in Importance of Being Idle, Half the World Away, It's Good To Be Free, and Talk Tonight. Been there, done that. I could do without hearing any of those songs live again. Keep in Wonderwall/Supersonic as they've been completely revamped, and maybe even DLBIA for sentimental purposes, but fill in the blanks with Simple Game of Genius, Stop the Clocks, Lord Shine a Light on Me, Alone on the Rope and even I'd Pick You Everytime and you got yourself a true High Flying Birds gig. I couldn't agree more. Havn't seen NGHFB yet so can't really say who I prefer live but I've got to say even at this point I'm still listening more to the Beady Eye record (and bootlegs) than I'm listening to the NGHFB record. Noel has somehow lost my attention. It's gotten to the point that last week I even forgot I'm going to see him at the 1st of december and I wrote myself down for an extra shift at work I'm now still trying to get rid of!  |
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Post by oasisshare on Nov 19, 2011 8:08:23 GMT -5
Things would have been very different for Beady Eye had they thrown in songs like Live Forever, Songbird, Supersonic, Morning Glory etc. when playing live. Different in what way? And they never would have thrown in any Noel-penned songs, now would they? They're smarter than that. But I wouldn't be surprised if we hear songs they've written for Oasis such as Turn Up the Sun, Hung in a Bad Place, I'm Outta Time, Better Man and even Thank You For The Good Times thrown in the setlist in the coming years. How massive would that be, starting up their gig with Turn Up The Sun followed by Four Letter Word? The fans would be covered in piss by the third song of the night! |
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Post by allah on Nov 19, 2011 9:57:44 GMT -5
The fans would be covered in piss by the third song of the night! Really looking forward to that  |
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 19, 2011 10:05:44 GMT -5
I haven't seen Noel live yet, but actually I liked DGSS just a bit more than NGHFB.
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Post by uboasis on Nov 19, 2011 10:24:27 GMT -5
I love both Albums. They are pretty much equal in my mind. However, Noel's live show was much better. It was a great balance of old and new songs, he had a better hold of the crowd, better atmosphere. I enjoyed Beady Eye but Noel's show really was that much better. My wife, who is not an oasis fan enjoyed Noel's show much much more as well. I think the appeal to the die hard between Liam's and Noel's shows may be similar. However, the more casual fans will definitely like Noel's show better and the fact that the casual fans at the gigs are enjoying it so much adds more to the buzz. At the Beady Eye gig, there were a lot of girlfriends/wives just sitting there waiting for it to be over. At the Noel Gig, everybody was into it. Having seen NGHFB two weeks ago and Beady Eye two nights ago, I can honestly say I had more fun at the Beady Eye gig, which surprised me. There was more energy and the crowd was much more into it. I completely thought the same as some of you on here recently, "Beady Eye are done," and completely began to write them off. But anyone who's seen them in the last couple days would agree that they are far from done. I went into both shows knowing the exact songs I'd be hearing live, and I enjoyed both gigs greatly but strangely found myself a bit bored (if lack for a better word) at Noel's gig. What a waste of setlist space by throwing in Importance of Being Idle, Half the World Away, It's Good To Be Free, and Talk Tonight. Been there, done that. I could do without hearing any of those songs live again. Keep in Wonderwall/Supersonic as they've been completely revamped, and maybe even DLBIA for sentimental purposes, but fill in the blanks with Simple Game of Genius, Stop the Clocks, Lord Shine a Light on Me, Alone on the Rope and even I'd Pick You Everytime and you got yourself a true High Flying Birds gig. Good on Liam & co for sticking to their own tunes and not relying on Oasis songs of the past. They've received a lot of scrutiny over the last couple months as we've moved our excitement from Beady Eye to High Flying Birds, but let's not write them off yet. With new songs recently showing up during soundchecks, there is much greatness yet to come yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2011 11:52:08 GMT -5
Pretty much the same happens to me. Even though I haven't seen Noels show live yet, I know BDI are doing it very very good. The two gigs I've been (Werchter and here in Santiago) were phenomenal, even though I enjoyed more the last one cos the people were crazy in that little place ;D ,totally on it.
BDI feel so right. The way they perform the songs follows the path of the rock'n roll performers, and is very risky sometimes, but you'll always now that the potential to do a good number is going to be there.
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Post by oasisshare on Nov 19, 2011 11:57:37 GMT -5
At the Beady Eye gig, there were a lot of girlfriends/wives just sitting there waiting for it to be over. At the Noel Gig, everybody was into it. On the contrary, my wife was at the Beady Eye gig with me and she enjoyed every minute of it. Was buzzing just as much as I was after the gig, and she's more of a Noel fan herself. |
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 19, 2011 15:30:14 GMT -5
I'll let you know in a couple weeks (seeing Noel tonight and Beady Eye in 2 weeks).
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Post by GIMH on Nov 19, 2011 17:18:45 GMT -5
If the Noel gig is as good as the Beady Eye gig was, I'll be delighted because last Friday was AMAZING
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 19, 2011 19:09:04 GMT -5
I went to a Beady Eye gig. It was absolute tosh. In the whole setlist, maybe two songs were decent and got the crowd mildly interested. The rest of songs got the crowd ass scratching.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 19, 2011 20:12:06 GMT -5
I'd assume part of the difference in opinions is actually the crowds themselves.
I mean, going to a Noel gig, you're gonna get the same thing every time. Noel is Noel, the voice is good, (never excellent), but never shit, and the songs are consistent and exactly what you would expect from a 'Noel' gig.
Beady Eye is pretty difference. Admittedly, their songs aren't as good. NGHFB's > DGSS, to me at least, and obviously, Oasis songs, being some of the best songs since, ever, are going to change things, so the lack of them is notable.
Now, this might just be talking out of my ass, but from what I'm picking up, Beady Eye's gigs can depend a lot on the crowd. If they know what to expect, that is, Beady Eye songs from a pretty decent band, they'll love it. Other times, you get the festivals, where people just wander over to give Beady Eye a look, and, it'll suck.
IMO, the difference is the crowd, its easy to get lost in everyone else's opinion, and Liam and the band will give it their all if he knows the people are too.
This coming from someone who lives half the world away from any gigs, (pay more attention to Beady Eye bootlegs if that makes any difference)
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Post by masterplan2011 on Nov 19, 2011 21:02:43 GMT -5
I'd assume part of the difference in opinions is actually the crowds themselves. I mean, going to a Noel gig, you're gonna get the same thing every time. Noel is Noel, the voice is good, (never excellent), but never shit, and the songs are consistent and exactly what you would expect from a 'Noel' gig. Beady Eye is pretty difference. Admittedly, their songs aren't as good. NGHFB's > DGSS, to me at least, and obviously, Oasis songs, being some of the best songs since, ever, are going to change things, so the lack of them is notable. Now, this might just be talking out of my ass, but from what I'm picking up, Beady Eye's gigs can depend a lot on the crowd. If they know what to expect, that is, Beady Eye songs from a pretty decent band, they'll love it. Other times, you get the festivals, where people just wander over to give Beady Eye a look, and, it'll suck. IMO, the difference is the crowd, its easy to get lost in everyone else's opinion, and Liam and the band will give it their all if he knows the people are too. This coming from someone who lives half the world away from any gigs, (pay more attention to Beady Eye bootlegs if that makes any difference) You say you live half a world away, where exactly do you live. I'll be disappointed if English isn't your first language. Your comments take a lot of fathoming out but have some good points. I had this image of you being drunk all the time and smoking pot like Pete Doherty I suppose and creating your own style of grammar. If you're not this kind of person and English is not your fist language, I will be disappointed because you seemed intriguing. Enlighten me dear sir  |
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 20, 2011 4:37:50 GMT -5
Different band and different gig.
I've seen Beady Eye twice this year and I did enjoy a lot. Seeing Liam on the stage just front of me made me realize he is absolute THE front man.
This guy has got something from nature what every front man should own.
But for the albums, I really love Noel's one. I can't get enough of listening to it.
Gonna see him in 10 days. Really looking forward to it.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Nov 20, 2011 16:11:10 GMT -5
He's from NZ, I think.
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Post by psj3809 on Nov 20, 2011 16:54:56 GMT -5
I went to the Brixton gig, was superb. Shame it wasnt a sellout, i was up in the circle bit, had some old bloke with a big leather jacket on doing crazy drunken 'dad dancing' which was funny to watch
But Liam was superb, even when he was covered by beer when some idiot chucked his pint he was calm.
Voice was excellent, second time i've seen Beady Eye and i thought this was the better gig.
I prefer Beady Eye to Noels stuff, Noels stuff is less rockier, more acoustic/slow type of songs, excellent album but i've always preferred the raw rock n roll stuff by Liam
Take Fade Away for example, i've always loved Liams rocky 'raw' version whereas one of my mates is a Noel fan and always preferred the slow acoustic version.
Still wish they would get back together but a quality gig the other day, happy as hell i went to it
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Post by psj3809 on Nov 20, 2011 16:56:33 GMT -5
There was more energy and the crowd was much more into it. I completely thought the same as some of you on here recently, "Beady Eye are done," and completely began to write them off. Thats stupid though, sorry. But a lot of people were surprised when BDI first came out, overall people liked it, the second Noels album came out which was great, then came all the negative BDI stuff which was stupid. If BDI's album went to #22 in the charts and their first tour failed to sell out fair enough. These later dates didnt sell out because most people have now already seen them. But i wouldnt write off BDI after one album, ridiculous |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 20, 2011 21:27:41 GMT -5
I'd assume part of the difference in opinions is actually the crowds themselves. I mean, going to a Noel gig, you're gonna get the same thing every time. Noel is Noel, the voice is good, (never excellent), but never shit, and the songs are consistent and exactly what you would expect from a 'Noel' gig. Beady Eye is pretty difference. Admittedly, their songs aren't as good. NGHFB's > DGSS, to me at least, and obviously, Oasis songs, being some of the best songs since, ever, are going to change things, so the lack of them is notable. Now, this might just be talking out of my ass, but from what I'm picking up, Beady Eye's gigs can depend a lot on the crowd. If they know what to expect, that is, Beady Eye songs from a pretty decent band, they'll love it. Other times, you get the festivals, where people just wander over to give Beady Eye a look, and, it'll suck. IMO, the difference is the crowd, its easy to get lost in everyone else's opinion, and Liam and the band will give it their all if he knows the people are too. This coming from someone who lives half the world away from any gigs, (pay more attention to Beady Eye bootlegs if that makes any difference) You say you live half a world away, where exactly do you live. I'll be disappointed if English isn't your first language. Your comments take a lot of fathoming out but have some good points. I had this image of you being drunk all the time and smoking pot like Pete Doherty I suppose and creating your own style of grammar. If you're not this kind of person and English is not your fist language, I will be disappointed because you seemed intriguing. Enlighten me dear sir English has always been my first language, and it looks like its gonna stay that way. Although you're a little wrong on those counts, I'm a strong believer in moderation, I'm more likely to be the guy holding the other up on his shoulder, rather than the one on the shoulder, throwing up on the street. And I'd tend to avoid most things labelled 'Pete Doherty' (love the guy though), and never use too much. And it would be considered a failure if I ended up back at home searching the internet - that stuff is saved only for when I'm not paying for it. Oh, and I'm prettty young too |
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Post by masterplan2011 on Nov 21, 2011 12:17:34 GMT -5
You say you live half a world away, where exactly do you live. I'll be disappointed if English isn't your first language. Your comments take a lot of fathoming out but have some good points. I had this image of you being drunk all the time and smoking pot like Pete Doherty I suppose and creating your own style of grammar. If you're not this kind of person and English is not your fist language, I will be disappointed because you seemed intriguing. Enlighten me dear sir English has always been my first language, and it looks like its gonna stay that way. Although you're a little wrong on those counts, I'm a strong believer in moderation, I'm more likely to be the guy holding the other up on his shoulder, rather than the one on the shoulder, throwing up on the street. And I'd tend to avoid most things labelled 'Pete Doherty' (love the guy though), and never use too much. And it would be considered a failure if I ended up back at home searching the internet - that stuff is saved only for when I'm not paying for it. Oh, and I'm prettty young too Ah that's slight disappointing I just noticed how you word sentences in weird ways sometimes but weird is good in my opinion. Yep, I love Pete Doherty as well, the man is mesmerising. I saw a lecture he gave in my college a few years ago on poetry. It was the most fascinating thing I've ever heard, he has a way with words that man does. He got me hooked on poetry and songwriting and all that. Then he gets a load of shit in the press, pisses me off. I could on but I know it's off-topic. All I can say about the original question is, I went to Beady Eye in Dublin and had a brilliant time, great atmosphere. Although I wouldn't call Liam an out and out show-man, he has that aura that makes any gig he is involved in, very entertaining. Noel has the advantage of having the songs though, so it'll be interesting to see how they compare. Seeing Noel in February ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 13:48:37 GMT -5
pete doherty is an absolute vagina.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 21, 2011 18:48:05 GMT -5
Beady Eye's gigs have far more energy when i have been. I have seen them 3 times. Twice in this country and at casino de paris, the french are weird but even they loved it. Empress Ballroom in blackpool was fucking mega. The crowd were great and LG was on top form.
After coming out of Noel's gig i was thinking that was great. But if he chose to do what Beady Eye did and only play new material. Despite his new material imo, being great. It would have been boring. I mean the songs are there, you cant help but love bring pissed and singing your heart out to the classics but he lacks energy and presence.
Overall, i want Oasis back.
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Post by cosmos on Nov 23, 2011 15:24:46 GMT -5
Beady eye are a much better band than High Flying Birds, they really are a band, HFB is Noel and a bunch of elders who play the way they were taught to. I wish Noel from 97-2000 played in HFB, that´d give that band a punch... Noel 2011 is so... boring
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 23, 2011 18:37:25 GMT -5
English has always been my first language, and it looks like its gonna stay that way. Although you're a little wrong on those counts, I'm a strong believer in moderation, I'm more likely to be the guy holding the other up on his shoulder, rather than the one on the shoulder, throwing up on the street. And I'd tend to avoid most things labelled 'Pete Doherty' (love the guy though), and never use too much. And it would be considered a failure if I ended up back at home searching the internet - that stuff is saved only for when I'm not paying for it. Oh, and I'm prettty young too Ah that's slight disappointing I just noticed how you word sentences in weird ways sometimes but weird is good in my opinion. Yep, I love Pete Doherty as well, the man is mesmerising. I saw a lecture he gave in my college a few years ago on poetry. It was the most fascinating thing I've ever heard, he has a way with words that man does. He got me hooked on poetry and songwriting and all that. Then he gets a load of shit in the press, pisses me off. I could on but I know it's off-topic. All I can say about the original question is, I went to Beady Eye in Dublin and had a brilliant time, great atmosphere. Although I wouldn't call Liam an out and out show-man, he has that aura that makes any gig he is involved in, very entertaining. Noel has the advantage of having the songs though, so it'll be interesting to see how they compare. Seeing Noel in February ;D Trust me, being compared to Pete Doherty is a compliment to me. I wouldn't trade my life for his, but the man is a legend in a way that surpasses even Liam Gallagher, he's really beyond the ordinary human in that way. Hate to dissappoint you like that, but I'm glad you like it when I talk, I eventually plan on writing something, and I'm sure it will be very good. In the end, you could be a Pete Doherty or Kurt Cobain, and be a legend beyond life, but I'd rather be a legend in my own life, and live a proper life. And credit to Beady Eye for what they've done, even if their second album is only as good as DG, they'll have a setlist near twice as good, and hopefully a lot of the criticism will be gone. I love the High Flying Birds, but really, its like listening to an Oasis cover band, just that they ignored the most important part (excluding the songs), and happen to have the songwriter |
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Post by Nicole R. on Nov 24, 2011 2:56:00 GMT -5
Can a newbie chime in here? ;D
I saw Beady Eye at Rock Werchter this past summer, and NGHFB in San Francisco four days ago. It's hard to compare because the settings were totally different -- 7,000 young people packed into a rain-soaked tent in Belgium versus 2,000 middle-aged people forced to stand in front of their assigned seats in a jewelbox theater in California.
But I can say that at the Beady Eye gig my attention never wandered, my mind never left the music, and I never stopped dancing. It was a totally consuming rock & roll experience. Liam is an amazing frontman.
Yes, I certainly enjoyed Noel's show, and there were a number of songs (hello, "Record Machine"!) that completely swept me away. But there were other songs where I found myself disengaged, studying the lighting or wondering who ironed Noel's nice white shirt.
Let's put it this way: for Noel, I only got tickets for the San Francisco show, but next week for Beady Eye I'll be going to both San Francisco and Los Angeles.
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