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Post by GIMH on Nov 19, 2011 6:17:32 GMT -5
To the poster right above me, which Noel-written songs were only great because of Liam's voice? Because Supersonic, Live Forever, etc. are great regardless of who sings it (to a point, if we're being hyper-literal). He may have elevated them, but they're just great songs regardless. My head says I'd like Liam not to song songs that read 'Noel Gallagher' in the credits My heart says if I was at a Beady Eye gig and the riff for Cigs and Alcohol started, I'd fucking love it. Put it this way, my 'other' favourite band is Guns N Roses, I've only ever seen the modern incarnations live, once in 02 and twice last year. You think I stood there when they closed with Paradise City thinking 'oooh but Duff, Izzy and Slash wrote that and they're not here, best fold my arms'?? Did I fuck, screamed every fucking word and loved it. As for the royalties thing, it varies country to country anyway but I'm fairly sure it's one of them ignored rules. I sincerely doubt Noel would get any money if Beady Eye play Supersonic, or that World of Twist get royalties aside from the direct sales and any future DVD releases etc. I could be wrong but I don't see it. Sorry, I need to nitpick two things: 1) Axl wrote the Paradise City lyrics alone and he was one of four members who wrote the music. So that's definitely a different story. 2) I'm sure most people don't demand the royalty checks, but I'm sure Noel would force the issue as much as he could, if only to make sure Liam is constantly reminded of who wrote those songs. Nah Axl didn't write the bulk of those lyrics. It was mainly Duff, you can tell, the words aren't really Axl's style. And the music was Slash-Izzy-Duff. I could be wrong though so I'm happy for you to find a source that contradicts me, because I could have used another song. For example Think About You or Patience, which were Izzy compositions. He has a credit on them because pre-UYI it was all songs written by GNR, but they didn't write them all as a band. Axl wrote the bulk of the lyrics for AFD but Izzy wrote more of the music than anyone. |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 19, 2011 12:00:14 GMT -5
To the poster right above me, which Noel-written songs were only great because of Liam's voice? Because Supersonic, Live Forever, etc. are great regardless of who sings it (to a point, if we're being hyper-literal). He may have elevated them, but they're just great songs regardless. Sorry, I need to nitpick two things: 1) Axl wrote the Paradise City lyrics alone and he was one of four members who wrote the music. So that's definitely a different story. 2) I'm sure most people don't demand the royalty checks, but I'm sure Noel would force the issue as much as he could, if only to make sure Liam is constantly reminded of who wrote those songs. Nah Axl didn't write the bulk of those lyrics. It was mainly Duff, you can tell, the words aren't really Axl's style. And the music was Slash-Izzy-Duff. I could be wrong though so I'm happy for you to find a source that contradicts me, because I could have used another song. For example Think About You or Patience, which were Izzy compositions. He has a credit on them because pre-UYI it was all songs written by GNR, but they didn't write them all as a band. Axl wrote the bulk of the lyrics for AFD but Izzy wrote more of the music than anyone. The wiki page, mostly. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_DestructionSlash's version from his book is different, though. He gives himself most of the credit, saying he was strumming the chords and started humming the melody, and Axl came up with the chorus lyrics. |
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Post by GIMH on Nov 19, 2011 14:06:30 GMT -5
Oh yeah I don't trust anything Slash says about who wrote what. Forget Paradise City then - take Patience and the same point applies
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 19, 2011 17:58:42 GMT -5
Oh yeah I don't trust anything Slash says about who wrote what. Forget Paradise City then - take Patience and the same point applies Yeah, you're definitely right. I just wanted to make sure you're not one of those annoying Slash fans constantly degrading Axl's importance to GnR. I'll admit Axl is a difficult character to love, but the man wrote November fucking Rain by himself. He deserves more credit than he gets as a composer. |
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Post by desmond on Nov 20, 2011 0:41:12 GMT -5
Noel recently said Liam could do a WTSMG tour alone and use all of its songs that he wouldn't be bothered. ...as long as they pay him. 19:00I think you all are missing the point here. Beady eye is a new band. Noel Gallagher is not, he is a songwiter, he wrote songs before oasis, during the oasis period, and after the oasis period. Did someone expect him to get rid of all of his material? They are his songs. Noel did not join another band, he is in his own playing the tunes that he wrote during his career. When someone say they are Liams songs i really don´t understand. Beady eye is supose to be a new band, i think they are right playing their own material, it would be really strange going to a Beady eye gig and listening to: oasis songs, + BDI songs, + some Beatle´s cover. Oasis was a band, BDI is a band, and HFB is not, only Noel writes the songs. Having said that, i would not mind if Liam decides to sing some oasis tunes, but at the cost of Beady eyes credibility as a true new band. I just wanted to express my opinion in this matter and thats all, i am not saying that someone who does not agree with me is wrong cause theres no right or wrong in this, only opinions. Edit: Meh, forget all of the above. What im trying to say is; Even if Liam has the same right as Noel, how would Andy or Gem feel playing Cigs and alcohol, Supersonic or Live forever in their band when they are not their songs at all? |
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Post by GIMH on Nov 20, 2011 4:36:51 GMT -5
Oh yeah I don't trust anything Slash says about who wrote what. Forget Paradise City then - take Patience and the same point applies Yeah, you're definitely right. I just wanted to make sure you're not one of those annoying Slash fans constantly degrading Axl's importance to GnR. I'll admit Axl is a difficult character to love, but the man wrote November fucking Rain by himself. He deserves more credit than he gets as a composer. Axl has always been my favourite gunner. He's a bit like Liam in as much as you understand why people hate him, but if you love him you think he's fucking great. And yeah he composed some great songs by himself. To be honest, I've always felt that if he was to get one of the classic line-up back to make an album with him, I'd want Izzy rather than Slash as Axl and Izzy wrote together so well. Live you'd want Slash I guess. Good to see another GNR fan on these boards anyway  |
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Post by songbirdsally on Nov 20, 2011 4:45:03 GMT -5
Noel recently said Liam could do a WTSMG tour alone and use all of its songs that he wouldn't be bothered. ...as long as they pay him. 19:00Didn't hear that interview before. Noel still seems upset that Liam didn't thank him at the Brit Awards. And rightly so! It's still bullshit though that he didn't hint at a reunion. He did. And I truly hope they don't do it. It won't work. Impossible. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Nov 20, 2011 5:09:26 GMT -5
"You see the thing is, you're gonna have to get this kid out next week, because we all know it's Johns birthday and we all know how important that is to uncle Liam."  |
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Post by TheShakermaker on Nov 20, 2011 8:34:17 GMT -5
It's funny how some people seems to think it's sad that Noel plays oasis songs, he wrote, and at the same time want beady eye to play oasis songs..
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 20, 2011 9:54:13 GMT -5
I just feel it would be very VERY sad to never listen Liam singing those amazing songs again. No matter who wrote those songs.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 20, 2011 10:15:51 GMT -5
...as long as they pay him. 19:00Didn't hear that interview before. Noel still seems upset that Liam didn't thank him at the Brit Awards. And rightly so! It's still bullshit though that he didn't hint at a reunion. He did. And I truly hope they don't do it. It won't work. Impossible. p Maybe you can find the interview for us where he says he wanted to reunite...because I have listened to them all...and I don't think it exists. Deluded fans were the ones read into it want they wanted to and now you aren't willing to accept that you were overeagar to hear whispers of a reunion and built a statement into something that it wasn't. I said BEFORE this interview that nobody was actually paying attention to the tense of his sentences in the interview and that he had obviously been talking about a hypothetical situation that he sorry won't happen because it had been dependent on them having not broken up. So this isn't me just changing my opinion because "Noel said it" He said early on something about it would have been nice but it'll just be his traveling around alone promoting form the rerelease. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 20, 2011 13:34:23 GMT -5
Didn't hear that interview before. Noel still seems upset that Liam didn't thank him at the Brit Awards. And rightly so! It's still bullshit though that he didn't hint at a reunion. He did. And I truly hope they don't do it. It won't work. Impossible. p Maybe you can find the interview for us where he says he wanted to reunite...because I have listened to them all...and I don't think it exists. Deluded fans were the ones read into it want they wanted to and now you aren't willing to accept that you were overeagar to hear whispers of a reunion and built a statement into something that it wasn't. I said BEFORE this interview that nobody was actually paying attention to the tense of his sentences in the interview and that he had obviously been talking about a hypothetical situation that he sorry won't happen because it had been dependent on them having not broken up. So this isn't me just changing my opinion because "Noel said it" He said early on something about it would have been nice but it'll just be his traveling around alone promoting form the rerelease. You are correct, he never really said it from what I've seen it was always clear he was talking hypothetically. But where Noel did attempt the sneakiness was when he was asked a few times early on if Oasis would ever reform and he'd say ' Well the lead singer said that the thought would make him vomit, so there's your answer' Basically implying that Liam was the reason there was no chance of it happening which wasn't really fair considering he had no intention to himself. Liam's comment saying he would be up for it was a great if unintentional comeback and now Noel is paying the price by having to clear it up in every interview he does. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 20, 2011 14:25:54 GMT -5
p Maybe you can find the interview for us where he says he wanted to reunite...because I have listened to them all...and I don't think it exists. Deluded fans were the ones read into it want they wanted to and now you aren't willing to accept that you were overeagar to hear whispers of a reunion and built a statement into something that it wasn't. I said BEFORE this interview that nobody was actually paying attention to the tense of his sentences in the interview and that he had obviously been talking about a hypothetical situation that he sorry won't happen because it had been dependent on them having not broken up. So this isn't me just changing my opinion because "Noel said it" He said early on something about it would have been nice but it'll just be his traveling around alone promoting form the rerelease. You are correct, he never really said it from what I've seen it was always clear he was talking hypothetically. But where Noel did attempt the sneakiness was when he was asked a few times early on if Oasis would ever reform and he'd say ' Well the lead singer said that the thought would make him vomit, so there's your answer' Basically implying that Liam was the reason there was no chance of it happening which wasn't really fair considering he had no intention to himself. Liam's comment saying he would be up for it was a great if unintentional comeback and now Noel is paying the price by having to clear it up in every interview he does. No he said " well Liam has already said the thought of it makes him want to vomit and I don't have anything to add to that." Which is no way implies to me that his opinion actually differs from that of Liam. Sure it was a cop out answer. But no more so than Liam saying that he'd do it just to make Noel uncomfortable. Prefixing all his answers with the assumption that he himself will have grown up a bit and Noel treat him with Noel has been consistent. Liam is the one flip flopping like crazy. You and I both know that Noel said said prior to Liam coming out with his "yeah let's reunite for a single if I like the way Noel treats me" statement that when he closed his eyes he couldn't see it and when he looked into his soul he didn't want it. Sure most of the time he answered non-commitaly. But when he actually opened up...he answered in the negative. Noel IMO has been pretty frank and candid with his fan base. Unlike Liam. Liam pawned off all the heat of the split on Noel. Saying that it was nothing that he had done that caused the rift. Where is your outrage about that? Oh that's right. It's Liam so he can be as selfish and lie as much as he wants. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 20, 2011 14:35:15 GMT -5
You are correct, he never really said it from what I've seen it was always clear he was talking hypothetically. But where Noel did attempt the sneakiness was when he was asked a few times early on if Oasis would ever reform and he'd say ' Well the lead singer said that the thought would make him vomit, so there's your answer' Basically implying that Liam was the reason there was no chance of it happening which wasn't really fair considering he had no intention to himself. Liam's comment saying he would be up for it was a great if unintentional comeback and now Noel is paying the price by having to clear it up in every interview he does. No he said " well Liam has already said the thought of it makes him want to vomit and I don't have anything to add to that." Which is no way implies to me that his opinion actually differs from that of Liam. Sure it was a cop out answer. But no more so than Liam saying that he'd do it just to make Noel uncomfortable. Prefixing all his answers with the assumption that he himself will have grown up a bit and Noel treat him with Noel has been consistent. Liam is the one flip flopping like crazy. You and I both know that Noel said said prior to Liam coming out with his "yeah let's reunite for a single if I like the way Noel treats me" statement that when he closed his eyes he couldn't see it and when he looked into his soul he didn't want it. Sure most of the time he answered non-commitaly. But when he actually opened up...he answered in the negative. Noel IMO has been pretty frank and candid with his fan base. Unlike Liam. Liam pawned off all the heat of the split on Noel. Saying that it was nothing that he had done that caused the rift. Where is your outrage about that? Oh that's right. It's Liam so he can be as selfish and lie as much as he wants. you're sexy when you're angry..... aloha! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2011 14:39:27 GMT -5
Let It Bleed is awesome.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 20, 2011 15:02:49 GMT -5
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 20, 2011 15:31:20 GMT -5
No he said " well Liam has already said the thought of it makes him want to vomit and I don't have anything to add to that." Which is no way implies to me that his opinion actually differs from that of Liam. Sure it was a cop out answer. But no more so than Liam saying that he'd do it just to make Noel uncomfortable. Prefixing all his answers with the assumption that he himself will have grown up a bit and Noel treat him with Noel has been consistent. Liam is the one flip flopping like crazy. You and I both know that Noel said said prior to Liam coming out with his "yeah let's reunite for a single if I like the way Noel treats me" statement that when he closed his eyes he couldn't see it and when he looked into his soul he didn't want it. Sure most of the time he answered non-commitaly. But when he actually opened up...he answered in the negative. Noel IMO has been pretty frank and candid with his fan base. Unlike Liam. Liam pawned off all the heat of the split on Noel. Saying that it was nothing that he had done that caused the rift. Where is your outrage about that? Oh that's right. It's Liam so he can be as selfish and lie as much as he wants. Noel keeps contradicting himself for the past 10 years, so if you're looking for consistent, it's the wrong guy. You're forgeting something, Liam started BDI saying he won't play Oasis, he won't reform oasis. Basically, he didn't rely AT ALL on Oasis. Noel in the other hand, has started his solo carrier by saying that a 2015 tour would have been great. So he basicaly give the hint of this tour to us fan, if he didn't want to do it at all, why mention the idea of it? To make us sad? What was the point? Then journalists started to ask him what bout this tour and his answer was to blame Liam for that by saying "Liam said it'll make him vomit".Then, Liam has caught him on his own game by saying "wait don't talk for me I'm up for it". And then Noel was saying "no, no I left the band for a reason" So, if Noel was as clean as you said he is in this story, he wouldn't have mentioned the tour at all and he wouldn't have used Liam as an escuse not to do it. Because doing that was making fan angry at Liam instead of Noel for this tour not happening. To make people forget Noel is the one who left the band. Now he's saying he doesn't regret leaving the band at all, then why mention the tour? What was the fucking point of mentioning this tour and blaming Liam after? |
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Post by icebreath on Nov 20, 2011 15:35:21 GMT -5
You are correct, he never really said it from what I've seen it was always clear he was talking hypothetically. But where Noel did attempt the sneakiness was when he was asked a few times early on if Oasis would ever reform and he'd say ' Well the lead singer said that the thought would make him vomit, so there's your answer' Basically implying that Liam was the reason there was no chance of it happening which wasn't really fair considering he had no intention to himself. Liam's comment saying he would be up for it was a great if unintentional comeback and now Noel is paying the price by having to clear it up in every interview he does. No he said " well Liam has already said the thought of it makes him want to vomit and I don't have anything to add to that." Which is no way implies to me that his opinion actually differs from that of Liam. Noel has different opinion from you apparently |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 20, 2011 16:30:33 GMT -5
No he said " well Liam has already said the thought of it makes him want to vomit and I don't have anything to add to that." Which is no way implies to me that his opinion actually differs from that of Liam. Noel has different opinion from you apparently I'm sorry...what am I supposed to get from that clip? An editted snippet? It's edited immediately after that sentence so there is no way to know if he didn't finsh the thought like he did in every interview that wasn't hacked apart by editing |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 20, 2011 16:40:25 GMT -5
No he said " well Liam has already said the thought of it makes him want to vomit and I don't have anything to add to that." Which is no way implies to me that his opinion actually differs from that of Liam. Sure it was a cop out answer. But no more so than Liam saying that he'd do it just to make Noel uncomfortable. Prefixing all his answers with the assumption that he himself will have grown up a bit and Noel treat him with Noel has been consistent. Liam is the one flip flopping like crazy. You and I both know that Noel said said prior to Liam coming out with his "yeah let's reunite for a single if I like the way Noel treats me" statement that when he closed his eyes he couldn't see it and when he looked into his soul he didn't want it. Sure most of the time he answered non-commitaly. But when he actually opened up...he answered in the negative. Noel IMO has been pretty frank and candid with his fan base. Unlike Liam. Liam pawned off all the heat of the split on Noel. Saying that it was nothing that he had done that caused the rift. Where is your outrage about that? Oh that's right. It's Liam so he can be as selfish and lie as much as he wants. Noel keeps contradicting himself for the past 10 years, so if you're looking for consistent, it's the wrong guy. You're forgeting something, Liam started BDI saying he won't play Oasis, he won't reform oasis. Basically, he didn't rely AT ALL on Oasis. Noel in the other hand, has started his solo carrier by saying that a 2015 tour would have been great. So he basicaly give the hint of this tour to us fan, if he didn't want to do it at all, why mention the idea of it? To make us sad? What was the point? Then journalists started to ask him what bout this tour and his answer was to blame Liam for that by saying "Liam said it'll make him vomit".Then, Liam has caught him on his own game by saying "wait don't talk for me I'm up for it". And then Noel was saying "no, no I left the band for a reason" So, if Noel was as clean as you said he is in this story, he wouldn't have mentioned the tour at all and he wouldn't have used Liam as an escuse not to do it. Because doing that was making fan angry at Liam instead of Noel for this tour not happening. To make people forget Noel is the one who left the band. Now he's saying he doesn't regret leaving the band at all, then why mention the tour? What was the fucking point of mentioning this tour and blaming Liam after? That is you interpretation. People see it as totally shifting blame onto Liam. What he actually said actually shifts more blame onto himself as well. If I hadn't have been so stubborn and left so quickly...if we had kept it together then this is what we would have been doing, I think. And it would have been great. But at no point did he say, I'd be great if we could get together again. THAT was something that the fans and journalists read into. Noel had said before the Liam reunion offer that he didn't want Oasis to reform and he has had no problem saying it since. You're right that he didn't go about promoting his record by minimizing Oasis like BDI did. He has always and will always place that band on a pedestal. You'll never catch him building himself up by knocking Oasis down. When he was confronted with someone saying "You seem to be open to a reunion" he shot them down hard. Again if you can find me a interview where he says "I would do a tour with Oasis again in 2015 but Liam won't do it" then I'll eat my shorts. You can have regrets about leaving but not want to go back. But people took his regrets about leaving as a expression of desire to go back. |
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 20, 2011 16:51:43 GMT -5
That is you interpretation. People see it as totally shifting blame onto Liam. What he actually said actually shifts more blame onto himself as well. If I hadn't have been so stubborn and left so quickly...if we had kept it together then this is what we would have been doing, I think. And it would have been great. But at no point did he say, I'd be great if we could get together again. THAT was something that the fans and journalists read into. Noel had said before the Liam reunion offer that he didn't want Oasis to reform and he has had no problem saying it since. You're right that he didn't go about promoting his record by minimizing Oasis like BDI did. He has always and will always place that band on a pedestal. You'll never catch him building himself up by knocking Oasis down. When he was confronted with someone saying "You seem to be open to a reunion" he shot them down hard. Again if you can find me a interview where he says "I would do a tour with Oasis again in 2015 but Liam won't do it" then I'll eat my shorts. You can have regrets about leaving but not want to go back. But people took his regrets about leaving as a expression of desire to go back. You're really twisting reality,you've missed every point I've said. First of all, I never said Noel wanted to reform Oasis, it's obvious he was hypopetical, it was regret, but I've asked what was the point of mentioning that tour. Noel has worked with the press for fucking 20 years. If he mentioned this tour, he knew everyone was gonna ask about it after, so why mention it? What was the point? Why involving Liam in his answer to journalist? Then, Liam NEVER knocked Oasis down he always said he was proud of it, that he'll always be Oasis in his heart. That's even why he wants to play some Oasis song again. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 21, 2011 12:27:19 GMT -5
That is you interpretation. People see it as totally shifting blame onto Liam. What he actually said actually shifts more blame onto himself as well. If I hadn't have been so stubborn and left so quickly...if we had kept it together then this is what we would have been doing, I think. And it would have been great. But at no point did he say, I'd be great if we could get together again. THAT was something that the fans and journalists read into. Noel had said before the Liam reunion offer that he didn't want Oasis to reform and he has had no problem saying it since. You're right that he didn't go about promoting his record by minimizing Oasis like BDI did. He has always and will always place that band on a pedestal. You'll never catch him building himself up by knocking Oasis down. When he was confronted with someone saying "You seem to be open to a reunion" he shot them down hard. Again if you can find me a interview where he says "I would do a tour with Oasis again in 2015 but Liam won't do it" then I'll eat my shorts. You can have regrets about leaving but not want to go back. But people took his regrets about leaving as a expression of desire to go back. You're really twisting reality,you've missed every point I've said. First of all, I never said Noel wanted to reform Oasis, it's obvious he was hypopetical, it was regret, but I've asked what was the point of mentioning that tour. Noel has worked with the press for fucking 20 years. If he mentioned this tour, he knew everyone was gonna ask about it after, so why mention it? What was the point? Why involving Liam in his answer to journalist? Then, Liam NEVER knocked Oasis down he always said he was proud of it, that he'll always be Oasis in his heart. That's even why he wants to play some Oasis song again. So all the comments about Oasis not being that great and being certain that Beady Eye would be better than Oasis were in by imagination? Good to know. And I already said that the Liam comment was a cop out.But it's not like Noel made up the quote. Liam was the one that came out with the definitive quote...Noel just let him keep the heat that he had already asked for himself. Liam was the one that put that quote out there it's not like Noel was lying. Seems to me from Noel's interviews that he took exception to all the insults that Liam has been vocal about since the split up to the current days. I don't really blame him for saying, "You wannna run around the world telling people that the idea of playing with Oasis makes you want to vomit, saying that I was holding you back, not acknolwdgeing me for the album that I wrote, ? Well, fine...have fun with that mate. I'm not taking the heat" My point is that in no way did Noel put words in Liams mouth or take his comments out of context or imply that he, himself, wanted to reunite. The few times that he actually put forward a personal opinion it was in the negative. It's hardly this federal case that you guys make it out be that. Like Noel was lying about Liams opinion and shifting all the onto him. Basically what we have established in this thread is that Noel didn't lie about his opinion. Noel didn't lie about Liam's opinion. And yet somehow Noel is still wrong? Nobody gave a shit until Liam changed his opinion a week and a bit ago....but Liam flip flopping is hardly Noel's fault. Besides...generally, in reality, when someone has a rant and the other person just says..."well, I don't have anything to add to that." I generally take that as a tacit acknowledgement that their opinion doesn't differ significantly. But fair enough if you think that it means different. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 21, 2011 12:32:04 GMT -5
You're really twisting reality,you've missed every point I've said. First of all, I never said Noel wanted to reform Oasis, it's obvious he was hypopetical, it was regret, but I've asked what was the point of mentioning that tour. Noel has worked with the press for fucking 20 years. If he mentioned this tour, he knew everyone was gonna ask about it after, so why mention it? What was the point? Why involving Liam in his answer to journalist? Then, Liam NEVER knocked Oasis down he always said he was proud of it, that he'll always be Oasis in his heart. That's even why he wants to play some Oasis song again. So all the comments about Oasis not being that great and being certain that Beady Eye would be better than Oasis were in by imagination? Good to know. And I already said that the Liam comment was a cop out.But it's not like Noel made up the quote. Liam was the one that came out with the definitive quote...Noel just let him keep the heat that he had already asked for himself. Liam was the one that put that quote out there it's not like Noel was lying. Seems to me from Noel's interviews that he took exception to all the insults that Liam has been vocal about since the split up to the current days. I don't really blame him for saying, "You wannna run around the world telling people that the idea of playing with Oasis makes you want to vomit, saying that I was holding you back, not acknolwdgeing me for the album that I wrote, ? Well, fine...have fun with that mate. I'm not taking the heat" My point is that in no way did Noel put words in Liams mouth or take his comments out of context or imply that he, himself, wanted to reunite. The few times that he actually put forward a personal opinion it was in the negative. That's absolutely correct . Noel used that comment as shield, he didn't have to say it was done for good or he didn't want to. Until Liam said he'd be up for it which forced Noel to acknowledge that he wouldn't anyway and he will probably be asked about it for the rest of the year. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 21, 2011 12:39:50 GMT -5
So all the comments about Oasis not being that great and being certain that Beady Eye would be better than Oasis were in by imagination? Good to know. And I already said that the Liam comment was a cop out.But it's not like Noel made up the quote. Liam was the one that came out with the definitive quote...Noel just let him keep the heat that he had already asked for himself. Liam was the one that put that quote out there it's not like Noel was lying. Seems to me from Noel's interviews that he took exception to all the insults that Liam has been vocal about since the split up to the current days. I don't really blame him for saying, "You wannna run around the world telling people that the idea of playing with Oasis makes you want to vomit, saying that I was holding you back, not acknolwdgeing me for the album that I wrote, ? Well, fine...have fun with that mate. I'm not taking the heat" My point is that in no way did Noel put words in Liams mouth or take his comments out of context or imply that he, himself, wanted to reunite. The few times that he actually put forward a personal opinion it was in the negative. That's absolutely correct . Noel used that comment as shield, he didn't have to say it was done for good or he didn't want to. Until Liam said he'd be up for it which forced Noel to acknowledge that he wouldn't anyway and he will probably be asked about it for the rest of the year. That's fine. But Noel never really hid his opinion. We all knew it. No one gave a shit about the offending comment until Liam changed his mind. And I doubt that it would have become an issue if Liam had stuck to his guns I still think that in general when I have to adjudicate a dispute between to two people and one person rants a bit and ends with "I will not work with this person" and the other person says "I don't have anything to add to that." I generally that that to mean that the second person isn't proposing that they work together. But fair enough if you would take that to mean something different. You act like Noel was going around the worlds saying. "He said he wouldn't...which is a pity because I might consider it" Noel has said several things to imply that he didn't want Oasis to reunite. "In my soul I don't want it", "the split was for the best", "Those boys seem better off now", "I enjoyed working alone in the studio. It was less of a struggle", as well as planning and discussing a further 1-2 albums after these 2 albums. What in all of Noel's interviews gave you ANY indication that he wanted Oasis back together? |
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 21, 2011 13:05:54 GMT -5
What in all of Noel's interviews gave you ANY indication that he wanted Oasis back together? You're keeping twisting the truth and avoiding the real questions. You must be a journalist. Nobody said Noel wanted Oasis back together. But starting a solo career by saying you regret to leave your former band is quite weird. Then the main question still is why mentioning the idea of a tour? What was the point? Noel has worked with journalist long enough to know that the minute he'll talk about the hypotetical idea of "a tour that would have been great", they'll ask him about it until the end of the year. So again why did Noel bring the subject of something as concret of a tour ? WHAT WAS THE POINT? |
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