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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 4, 2011 10:12:10 GMT -5
Stupid question. Despite supporting a shite team, Oasisandtoonfan is spot on
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Post by sbajf on Nov 4, 2011 10:14:18 GMT -5
Stupid question. Despite supporting a shite team, Oasisandtoonfan is spot on Coming from a Gooner! |
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Post by LlAM on Nov 4, 2011 10:40:27 GMT -5
The Beat Goes On is an epic anthem of an album track.
The Masterplan is a decent b-side.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 4, 2011 10:53:57 GMT -5
No let up in the troll feeding then.
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Post by comaboy on Nov 4, 2011 11:06:14 GMT -5
this is like comparing water to wine
the masterplan is a masterpiece
TBGO is decent at its best
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Post by AKA_TheBrokenArrow on Nov 4, 2011 11:11:12 GMT -5
The Masterplan is better, no doubt. The Beast Goes On is a great song, and Beady Eye's best, but it doesn't touch The Masterplan
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Post by LlAM on Nov 4, 2011 11:17:23 GMT -5
Come on, there's a reason why The Masterplan was a b-side and TBGO is an album track.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 4, 2011 11:19:31 GMT -5
^^ haha
The other two posters above are working hard to keep that roll fed.
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 4, 2011 12:43:36 GMT -5
The Beat Goes On is a bad Toto imitation, that even Toto would be disgusted of. The Masterplan is needless to say, a bristling melodic wonder of the modern age. The gap in quality between The Masterplan and any Beady Eye song is so big the universe would fit in it. These are my favs. Though, oasisandtoonfan, I wish you would've said, "The gap...is so big Thuperthonic would fit in it." |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 12:46:32 GMT -5
^^ haha The other two posters above are working hard to keep that roll fed. The question is hardly trolling. In another thread I made a light remark about people saying TBGO was better than The Masterplan, when TBGO was released. The only replies I got to this was "it is". So I thought I'd ask the board. So fuck off, Voltaire. Liam's cock hasn't been sucked in the last 20 minutes you might be able to catch the next train to London. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 4, 2011 13:23:46 GMT -5
Stupid question. Despite supporting a shite team, Oasisandtoonfan is spot on I wouldn't get too carried away if I was you. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 4, 2011 14:14:21 GMT -5
^^ haha The other two posters above are working hard to keep that roll fed. The question is hardly trolling. In another thread I made a light remark about people saying TBGO was better than The Masterplan, when TBGO was released. The only replies I got to this was "it is". So I thought I'd ask the board. So fuck off, Voltaire. Liam's cock hasn't been sucked in the last 20 minutes you might be able to catch the next train to London. U mad? Don't ask questions you know the answer too. |
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Post by mkoasis on Nov 4, 2011 14:20:06 GMT -5
I really like TBGO but the Masterplan is definitely the winner.
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Post by styles on Nov 4, 2011 14:24:55 GMT -5
LOL at epiphone getting mad in his own joke thread.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 4, 2011 14:59:39 GMT -5
Funny thing is I started that Masterplan vs TBGO poll in the Beady Eye section as a joke but people took it seriously...
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Post by space75gr on Nov 5, 2011 2:33:59 GMT -5
i love "the masterplan" but i prefer "The beat goes on".the first one i have to say have much better production a much more complete feeling , but somehow the second one wins for me.
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Post by GIMH on Nov 5, 2011 5:13:42 GMT -5
Really? How about "oh me, oh my im running out of batteries" or "The kids are tired, they drunk up all their lemonade" No? Still in Noel's arse? ok. The least you could do is get the lyrics you quote right. It's a cell phone reference to his dying battery. As for the "up Noel's arse" part, by saying that you are clearly snuggled up between Liam's cheeks. Pretty sure it is 'batteries' actually but will have to listen to check and I'm listening to something else atm. Or I could go find one of my copies of the album and check the lyrics but I cbf |
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Post by craigfairlie on Nov 5, 2011 5:18:02 GMT -5
Please say this is a joke?
Masterplan without a shadow of a doubt
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 5, 2011 6:37:00 GMT -5
The Beat Goes On would never beat TM.....but it would help if it had fucking dynamics. The song is so bland. It seriously is a slowed down version of "It's A Small World After All".......
Compare TBGO to even the likes of Noel's RM.....RM at least goes somewhere. It's interesting. It has dynamics.
So so average.
We need Beady Eye's music to Noel's lyrics. We need Noel's lyrics to Beady Eye's music. We need Oasis. Some of you can deny it all you want, but no matter how great Liam sounds, and no matter how great Noel is writing, it means nowt. Noel is nothing without the Oasis sound backing him, and Liam is nothing without Noel's lyrics. To deny it is simply idiocy.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 5, 2011 6:58:14 GMT -5
^^So Noel is "nothing" without Oasis? NGHFB is the best Gallagher album since freaking Be Here Now. Would you take another DOYS/DBTT-quality album over NGHFB+DGSS+b-sides etc.?
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Post by BlueJay on Nov 5, 2011 7:02:26 GMT -5
We need Beady Eye's music to Noel's lyrics. We need Noel's lyrics to Beady Eye's music. We need Oasis. Some of you can deny it all you want, but no matter how great Liam sounds, and no matter how great Noel is writing, it means nowt. Noel is nothing without the Oasis sound backing him, and Liam is nothing without Noel's lyrics. To deny it is simply idiocy. Wrong. The fact that you have no place in your narrow mind to accept any alternatives, that you refuse to accept that Oasis broke up and that you aren't capable of objectively judging Noel and Liam's musical ventures from an isolated perspective is 'simply idiocy'. Contary to your ridiculous consensus, what Liam and Noel release in Beady Eye and High Flying Birds respectively does mean 'nowt', because it provides insteresting insight in regards to the songwriting, arranging and performing abilities of each brother separately. Although yes, it may never be as strong or endearing as anything they did collectively under the Oasis moniker, we had that for eighteen years and saw it die a violent death. What we have now is orginal and unique; Beady Eye and Noel are separate entities. We don't need BE's music to NG's lyrics or NG's testicles on BE's drumkit because it defeats the purpose of the separate musical ventures in the first place. I don't know about anyone else, but judging by the very last Oasis tour, I would (for now) much prefer for the two to go their own ways and broaden their horizons a little. This is what we are getting and it has been quite pleasant. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 5, 2011 7:05:27 GMT -5
^^So Noel is "nothing" without Oasis? NGHFB is the best Gallagher album since freaking Be Here Now. Would you take another DOYS/DBTT-quality album over NGHFB+DGSS+b-sides etc.? Yes, the quality is there. I love NGHFB. But it would be taken to the next level with the Oasis sound. You can't honestly think they wouldn't be better without Gem's solo, or Whitey's/Chris' drumming, hell, even Liam's vocals (which is a debate I have trouble getting into). Noel has written a great album. I love it. And it slots just behind BHN for me. But sonically it's lacking live, and it's lacking thusly because THFB, as good as they may be, are no Oasis. Seriously, listen to HFB's LBL, then listen to the performance from Finsbury Park, for example. Either Noel has fucked up the arrangement to be different or HFB just simply aren't good enough. I don't know the answer, but it is clear that every Oasis rendition sounds superior...... I've said before that I can't define the Oasis magic, but you know it when you see it. As good as BDI and NGHFB are, they lack that magic. Simply, there was something special about Oasis...... |
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Post by Lester on Nov 5, 2011 8:46:09 GMT -5
TBGO? Seriously? It's not even the best track on the single.
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Post by ctmazin on Nov 5, 2011 8:50:06 GMT -5
^^So Noel is "nothing" without Oasis? NGHFB is the best Gallagher album since freaking Be Here Now. Would you take another DOYS/DBTT-quality album over NGHFB+DGSS+b-sides etc.? Yes, the quality is there. I love NGHFB. But it would be taken to the next level with the Oasis sound. You can't honestly think they wouldn't be better without Gem's solo, or Whitey's/Chris' drumming, hell, even Liam's vocals (which is a debate I have trouble getting into). Noel has written a great album. I love it. And it slots just behind BHN for me. But sonically it's lacking live, and it's lacking thusly because THFB, as good as they may be, are no Oasis. Seriously, listen to HFB's LBL, then listen to the performance from Finsbury Park, for example. Either Noel has fucked up the arrangement to be different or HFB just simply aren't good enough. I don't know the answer, but it is clear that every Oasis rendition sounds superior...... I've said before that I can't define the Oasis magic, but you know it when you see it. As good as BDI and NGHFB are, they lack that magic. Simply, there was something special about Oasis...... Yeah, there was. And now it's over. The Oasis "magic" had not really been there for years. Yes you can pinpoint some great performances in isolation, but the DOYS tour in general was poor, the performances all over the place, the vibe awful. Noel and (especially) Liam's performances since separately have been much better. Maybe Little By Little isn't as good, but MF sounds incredible (and I hated that song) and TIOBI sounds as good as ever. The HFB band is very good if you view them with some objectivity. Almost everyone who has seen them live thought it was an awesome show. I'm sad for you that you can't move on. Everything ends. Rejoice in the fact that the principals of Oasis have moved on and made albums they can be proud of instead of forever bitching about how it isn't exactly what you would want it to be. And I will repeat this again: AN ALBUM AS GOOD AS NGHFB WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF OASIS WAS STILL AROUND. They would have putzed it up like they did the last three albums. Noel wouldn't have been motivated. Liam wouldn't have been motivated. They wouldn't have picked the right songs. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 5, 2011 9:15:53 GMT -5
I agree with some of your points NL4E, but you tend to compare the solo projects to unrealistic dream scenarios, like Oasis in 2011 performing live like they did in 2002 (which they would not), or , as ctmazin has pointed out already, HFB being released as an Oasis album (simply not possible). Take a look at the last years of Oasis, the tours in 2008/09, DOYS and DBTT, that's the quality you have to compare the solo efforts to.
If there is one thing that could (rather) easily be changed about the HFB, I'd say it's the guitarist. The solos are really lacking compared to Noel's renditions, and it's not like they're that hard to play.
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