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Post by agnhi on Oct 17, 2011 7:45:18 GMT -5
so it's news that a band doesn't play an encore for an unresponsive crowd? An encore should be a BONUS, something special, not a pantomime 'go off / come back on' predictability. Remember early Oasis never played encores, nor the manics or arctic monkeys I think... so good for them. if you want an encore, give the feedback required. it's the difference between a gig and listening to a cd  Manics still don't! Speaking now in general, not about this Copenhagen gig... I do agree that it's a bit of a pity that encores are such regular part of the set. It often feels these days that even though the audience seems well up for it during the gig, then come the encore break no one bothers to make extra noise o.o and then the band just walks back to the stage since it was scheduled so. I don't know am I just imagining things but even just 10 years ago it seemed there was more "I want more"s and clapping at gigs, in general. |
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Post by jesper on Oct 17, 2011 9:20:18 GMT -5
I am a loyal fan and have been since 1996. I've seen Oasis and Beady Eye many times(also bad Kermit-shows like Valby Hallen 2005 and Glasto 2004), but this one was the worst moment ever. Yes the crowd was small and didn't move much, but i also saw Beady Eye at Jelling festival where the played to almost nobody. There they were in a good mood and played well. Yesterday they we're so unispired that they didn't stand a chance in front of a crowd that doesn't know them very well. New bands have to proove themselves..
Liam sang ok, but he spend the whole gig talking the sound guy at the side of the stage.
Through the whole gig i tried to sing along and have a good time, but by the end i had to admit to myself that it is shit. On top of that they played less than an hour, and didn't bother doing an encore even though people shouted for them. I traveled a long way and payed 400 danish kroner, to see them and i'm pissed of..
I guess Liam's sick of playing the set, and doesn't really want to do more shows on this tour, but then he should cancel and give people their money back.
Unless their next album blow me away, i wont bother paying for a Beady Eye ticket in the future.
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Post by icebreath on Oct 17, 2011 9:36:57 GMT -5
I am a loyal fan and have been since 1996. I've seen Oasis and Beady Eye many times(also bad Kermit-shows like Valby Hallen 2005 and Glasto 2004), but this one was the worst moment ever. Yes the crowd was small and didn't move much, but i also saw Beady Eye at Jelling festival where the played to almost nobody. There they were in a good mood and played well. Yesterday they we're so unispired that they didn't stand a chance in front of a crowd that doesn't know them very well. New bands have to proove themselves.. Liam sang ok, but he spend the whole gig talking the sound guy at the side of the stage. Through the whole gig i tried to sing along and have a good time, but by the end i had to admit to myself that it is shit. On top of that they played less than an hour, and didn't bother doing an encore even though people shouted for them. I traveled a long way and payed 400 danish kroner, to see them and i'm pissed of.. I guess Liam's sick of playing the set, and doesn't really want to do more shows on this tour, but then he should cancel and give people their money back. Unless their next album blow me away, i wont bother paying for a Beady Eye ticket in the future. That '"conversation" with the sound guy is a phenomenon with every beady eye gig i saw on videos. I don't know what to think really.It's liam's fault for not showing up in soundchecks or the sound guys at the most gigs are shit?I suppose it's the first.These incidents affect negatively the band along with the crowd. |
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Post by ctmazin on Oct 17, 2011 9:51:52 GMT -5
I don't think they are any "obligation" to do an encore. Nonetheless, even if the crowd is small and blase, the only way you're gonna make new fans is if you go out there and give it your all.
Now that you mention it, the sound guy phenomenon was present at the Toronto gig as well. I couldn't figure out who the fuck Liam was nattering to, but it must have been the sound guy. The sound was pretty dreadful, so I guess he was asking for tweaks.
I think this leg of the tour might have been a mistake. Understandable-the setlist is getting stale and it must be tough playing for lacklustre crowds. It's time to take a short breather and then go back to the studio.
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Post by jesper on Oct 17, 2011 9:54:14 GMT -5
I am a loyal fan and have been since 1996. I've seen Oasis and Beady Eye many times(also bad Kermit-shows like Valby Hallen 2005 and Glasto 2004), but this one was the worst moment ever. Yes the crowd was small and didn't move much, but i also saw Beady Eye at Jelling festival where the played to almost nobody. There they were in a good mood and played well. Yesterday they we're so unispired that they didn't stand a chance in front of a crowd that doesn't know them very well. New bands have to proove themselves.. Liam sang ok, but he spend the whole gig talking the sound guy at the side of the stage. Through the whole gig i tried to sing along and have a good time, but by the end i had to admit to myself that it is shit. On top of that they played less than an hour, and didn't bother doing an encore even though people shouted for them. I traveled a long way and payed 400 danish kroner, to see them and i'm pissed of.. I guess Liam's sick of playing the set, and doesn't really want to do more shows on this tour, but then he should cancel and give people their money back. Unless their next album blow me away, i wont bother paying for a Beady Eye ticket in the future. That '"conversation" with the sound guy is a phenomenon with every beady eye gig i saw on videos. I don't know what to think really.It's liam's fault for not showing up in soundchecks or the sound guys at the most gigs are shit?I suppose it's the first.These incidents affect negatively the band along with the crowd. When Liams voice is good, he doesn't do it nearly as much. But when ever he's out of tune or the crowd isn't as positive as he wants them to be, the sound guy is to blame. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 17, 2011 10:08:56 GMT -5
That '"conversation" with the sound guy is a phenomenon with every beady eye gig i saw on videos. I don't know what to think really.It's liam's fault for not showing up in soundchecks or the sound guys at the most gigs are shit?I suppose it's the first.These incidents affect negatively the band along with the crowd. When Liams voice is good, he doesn't do it nearly as much. But when ever he's out of tune or the crowd isn't as positive as he wants them to be, the sound guy is to blame. He did it in Oasis as well. It's very annoying indeed. And I pitty the sound guy  jesper: Don't forget that Liam really is ill and on antibiotics as well and that might be one of the reasons that the gig wasn't really good. If you enjoyed other Beady Eye gigs before I'd give them another chance  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 10:31:23 GMT -5
It's no coincidence that this keeps happening now Noel's enjoying success. Liam's behaving like a petulant child.
I like Beady Eye and Liam. The vast, vast majority of people don't. He can't change that and he needs to either make Beady Eye as good as they can be for those who do care or just pack it all in.
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Post by Master Wanker on Oct 17, 2011 10:34:32 GMT -5
I like what Beady Eye(except Andy Bell ) did until this tour and I understand it's sometimes frustrating to play smaller crowds that are often lame but thats perfectly normal for a new band and if that is the reason why Liam pulled out he's a C.U.N.T for not doing the encore because he could have done one or two more songs. The only way you can get more fans is to go out there and give 100 % every night like they did on their last tour!!! |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 17, 2011 10:36:00 GMT -5
Why do people ignore the fact he's ill?
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Post by Master Wanker on Oct 17, 2011 10:38:25 GMT -5
I am not ignoring the fact that he's ill and I understand it but c'mon if he could have done the encore in Berlin why couldnt he done one or two songs in Denmark.
Just saying if you are doing a gig do it right
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 10:43:09 GMT -5
If you can't do the job, don't do it. Better still, prepare. Apologise. Shorten the set. Mix it up so it's easier on your throat. Don't behave like a 39-year-old manchild and short-change a thousand people because some of them aren't into your band as much as you'd like them to be.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 17, 2011 11:07:29 GMT -5
They already have juggled the set. And they did shorten it too, I don't see your point?
If they had cancelled it you'd be here slagging him off anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 11:18:22 GMT -5
it isn't 'a job', it's rock'n'roll.
most of the comments on here sound like they're made by lower-managerial level jobsworths marking some unlucky new recruit to their warehouse or something.
it's a band. they're doing gigs, not a fucking concert recital.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 11:19:14 GMT -5
It's pretty clear the set wasn't intentionally shortened on this occasion. The set juggling was to stop Liam getting bored, not to protect his voice (and he got bored anyway, btw).
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 17, 2011 11:32:33 GMT -5
How do any of us know that the crowd reaction had anything to do with the set been shortened? The know it all attitude of some people that know the exact reason why the set has been changed, the exact reason the gig was cut and the exact medical situation with regards Liam is a bit strange.
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Post by gdforever on Oct 17, 2011 12:08:42 GMT -5
Do we know if Liam is still sound checking?
If it had been illness relate that they cut their gig to under an hour then I would have bet that Liam would have remarked and apologized on twitter a now for not being able to finish the gig or at least said something to the crowd. He's good about that
A gig under an hour? That's rubbish. If they were thinking that they weren't gonna get enough reaction for an encore (which is basically just a ego stroking thing at this point of a bad being able to hear their fans call for more) then they should have just not gone off stage a just played the rest without the pretension of walking off stage and then back on.
The only way that a BDI gig times out to a decent length is if their is an encore. It's not actually a bonus really. 55mins? A bit of an insult.
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Post by jesper on Oct 17, 2011 12:59:33 GMT -5
I was there, and the only problem yesterday was that Liam didn't want to do the gig. His voice was quite fine, and i don't buy any of the 'being ill' talk. If he had the strenght to do the gig, of course he could have done the last three songs. His medical condition's got nothing to do with him being angry with the crowd and the sound people..
In my case i was really looking forward to Sons On The Stage and Wigwam, i didn't get that, because Liam is sick of touring and the fact that he isn't playing Wembley but a small venue in Copenhagen with a quiet audience.
I've put up with a lot of shit from Liam/oasis - I was on my way to Hamburg back in 2003 when they cancelled that gig, i traveled from Denmark to Uk to see them at Glasto and that was shit too, but i've always defended Liam - but last night was too much, that's no way to treat fans.
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Post by osoasis on Oct 17, 2011 13:33:57 GMT -5
at 4:06 Liam seems to lost his voice
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Post by leongti on Oct 17, 2011 14:04:00 GMT -5
if the crowds shit and theres no response and a shit atmosphere then why should he come back on. its never happened to me but then the english fans are the most rowdy and know how to have a good time!
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 17, 2011 14:11:53 GMT -5
at 4:06 Liam seems to lost his voice Looks like that to me too. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 17, 2011 14:18:53 GMT -5
at 4:06 Liam seems to lost his voice Looks like that to me too. There you go. At least he fucking tried it. They guy has a throat infection and is taking antibiotics. Give him a break. |
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Post by gdforever on Oct 17, 2011 14:44:41 GMT -5
I'm puzzled about why he hasn't said anything. Usually he posts on twitter or says something to the crowd.
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 17, 2011 14:46:04 GMT -5
I'm puzzled about why he hasn't said anything. Usually he posts on twitter or says something to the crowd. might be because he lost his voie ;D |
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 17, 2011 14:46:21 GMT -5
Like I was trying to say on the previous page, all the accusation and name calling is dumb. If people had just waited until footage became available or until a statement was made it would save them from looking rather silly.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 17, 2011 14:48:39 GMT -5
I'm puzzled about why he hasn't said anything. Usually he posts on twitter or says something to the crowd. I thinking that maybe this time round as 3/4 of the show was done they are just going to keep there heads down avoid talk of refunds, let Liam get some rest and on to the next gig. |
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