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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2011 17:35:35 GMT -5
I keep seeing people trying to join DGGS and NGHFB together. Personally, I don't think anything on DGSS fits on Noel's album - both in quality as well as vibe-wise. I think Noel's album would have been boosted if all of Noel's songs remained but added Liam's vocals to some - I don't know which ones, as my imagination is lacking in trying to hear how Liam would sound. Don't get me wrong, Noel's vocals are spot on. No complaints with the finished product, really. But Liam's vocals, as we all know, adds aggression and urgency. Personally, I feel that if everything was kept the same on NGHFB, but with some Liam vocals (and maybe a guitar solo here or there  ), this album would be seriously rivaling WTSMG. The quality of the songs are there. Noel's album is great. It's better song writing than the last few Oasis records, but it's missing that Oasis magic that only the brothers Gallagher combined could create. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 17:42:32 GMT -5
The Morning Son is amazing though
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 13, 2011 17:43:11 GMT -5
Excellent post. While I disagree about it been about the quality I totally agree that the albums are too different to mix. Beady Eye aimed for a modern sounding sixties vibe rock and roll record. Noel in my opinion has aimed to become a great British songwriter, the vibe and production of the album aim for perfection and a really polished sound. Both have great merits and for me as a fan both will be getting a lot of plays from me over the years, however they are very much separate albums for me.
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Post by mossy on Oct 13, 2011 17:46:39 GMT -5
If they reform I hope they do it quickly, because bands reforming when they're old just isn't right. I'm sure the Led Zep gig was amazing, but seeing Jimmy Page with white hair and JPJ bald was just wrong. I dont ever want to see a grey balding Liam singing rock 'n' roll star! But hey, BDI are working on their next album and Noel is claiming to have plans for 2 more after the AA one so I'm ecstatic with the amount of Gallagher material we're getting these days, even if we're not going to get the perfect match of Liam vox on Noel's songs - Oasis have quite a big back catalogue to dip into  |
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 13, 2011 17:47:02 GMT -5
Agreed, but if it was still Oasis Noel would've wrote that stadium rockin' first single for Liam, i.e TSOTL, THT etc.. Seriously though, Noel written, Liam sung songs were very rare towards the end.. THT, SCYHO and (P)AITM off Heathen Chemistry. Lyla and half of LTBL off DBTT and BIU, TT and TSOTL off DOYS. That'sonly 8 songs in almost a decade. Shocking  Four Letter Word, The Roller, Wigwam, Beat Goes On and The Morning Son are quality and would've probably been on the record plus Whatever Noel wrote for Liam and then the Noel sung songs. They would've been spoiled for choice. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 13, 2011 18:38:02 GMT -5
people who are trying to merge both albums are not thinking "what would make Noel's album better?"
they're wanting to put together an OASIS album. And trust me, i've done it myself. It sounds monumental.
Take BDI's best songs, take Noel's best songs, create a playlist on iTunes and you're in Oasis paradise.
You're gonna tell me that we can have HHL and TSOTL together in one album, but not TDOYAM and 4LW? lol get real.
the songs i'd take from NGHB's would be EOTR(i'd keep Noel on vocals), Dream On(Liam-sung), TDOYAM(because it is very good, even i don't totally love it), IIHAG(Liam-sung), and Stop The CLocks.
4LW, KFAD, Roller, 3RC, wigwam, For Anyone and The Morning Sun.
That would make a great fucking album and it would leave some great songs for B sides.(Record Machine, Bubble with a Bullet, The Beat GOes on--which could be on the album-- etc)
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Post by thefadedline on Oct 13, 2011 20:26:58 GMT -5
Fucking hell, let it go man.
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Post by bimblylove on Oct 13, 2011 21:29:53 GMT -5
Noel has so much more character/range to his voice nowadays. Liam, while still decent, is a lot more... flat, or something. Noel's voice soars. There's a dynamism to this album that wasn't present on the last few Oasis records.
I can't imagine this record any other way than it is.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 13, 2011 21:32:48 GMT -5
Noel has so much more character/range to his voice nowadays. Liam, while still decent, is a lot more... flat, or something. Noel's voice soars. There's a dynamism to this album that wasn't present on the last few Oasis records. I can't imagine this record any other way than it is. Absolutely. So nice to hear someone agreeing with me on this. K+. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 13, 2011 23:20:40 GMT -5
I dont miss Liam on this record really, it's all for Noel's voice here.
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 13, 2011 23:20:48 GMT -5
Excellent post. While I disagree about it been about the quality I totally agree that the albums are too different to mix. Beady Eye aimed for a modern sounding sixties vibe rock and roll record. Noel in my opinion has aimed to become a great British songwriter, the vibe and production of the album aim for perfection and a really polished sound. Both have great merits and for me as a fan both will be getting a lot of plays from me over the years, however they are very much separate albums for me. I agree with you completely. I have only listened to the HFB album today for the first time (was waiting to be able to listen properly) and I realized this as well. Noel's album is very glossy, polished, and produced...not that that is a bad thing, but it is a very different approach to how BE chose to present their offering. After having listened to both 'solo' efforts, I can say: a) I like both equally but found BE's more exciting (though that maybe due to the fact that there were only 4 songs on HFB no one had heard before) b) as much as I do like this album and DGSS, both still rank below any Oasis albums. Noels effort is terrific but, as with Liams, something feels missing (not necessarily the same thing missing in both albums). Just my opinion though. |
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Post by rupertg on Oct 14, 2011 6:24:58 GMT -5
They both have something to prove with their albums. Noel to prove can write an entire album of quality material again and also be a front man. Beady Eye to prove that they can write a quality album without Noel.
Both seem very ambitious. It's great cause it doesn't make me miss Oasis as much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2011 7:27:08 GMT -5
(though that maybe due to the fact that there were only 4 songs on HFB no one had heard before) 10 |
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Post by Underneath the sky on Oct 14, 2011 12:26:38 GMT -5
Noel has so much more character/range to his voice nowadays. Liam, while still decent, is a lot more... flat, or something. Noel's voice soars. There's a dynamism to this album that wasn't present on the last few Oasis records. I can't imagine this record any other way than it is. Absolutely. So nice to hear someone agreeing with me on this. K+. Agree with this as well. I'm a massive Liam fan but his voice was flat and too nasally on DGSS. There's no out and out rockers on this record so it's difficult to see which songs Liam would actually improve. The only ones that immediately spring to mind are Broken Arrow and perhaps EOTR. |
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Oct 14, 2011 14:38:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't want Liams voice on it at all.... before 2002 I would of said "This needs Liam on vocals" but his voice is bollox.
I'm watching the Beady Eye gig in Berlin right now it sounds fucking dreadful.
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Post by space75gr on Oct 14, 2011 14:41:13 GMT -5
even a Kermit Liam is better than a good Noel.
and when we are talking about studio, Liam is still better than anyone out there.
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Oct 14, 2011 14:43:20 GMT -5
Studio... possibly, but certainly not live... it's depressing to hear.
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Post by space75gr on Oct 14, 2011 14:46:32 GMT -5
btw, imo , 4LW, TR, TBGO, FA etc could make it in any Oasis album
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Post by drteter on Oct 14, 2011 15:15:38 GMT -5
Liam's days of replicating his studio performances live are long gone. Listening to their live show had its moments (he sung really well on The Roller, for instance) but overall it reminds me how much better Noel sounds live than Liam has for the past 10 years.
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 14, 2011 15:45:19 GMT -5
If he was singing tonight on the last Oasis tour you'd all be praising him to death! He was singing great!
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Post by space75gr on Oct 14, 2011 15:51:33 GMT -5
If he was singing tonight on the last Oasis tour you'd all be praising him to death! He was singing great! |
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Post by deasy on Oct 14, 2011 15:54:11 GMT -5
The only songs on Noels album I could imagine Liam singing are IIHAG, RM and STC. I couldn't imagine him pulling off anything else on there.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 14, 2011 16:34:15 GMT -5
the Noel dick-riders seem to be neglecting the fact that Noel himself abused the use of pro tools--auto tune in particular-- in this album.
Yeah, but "Liam wouldn't be able to pull off most of the songs", lol right....
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Post by deasy on Oct 14, 2011 16:44:23 GMT -5
the Noel dick-riders seem to be neglecting the fact that Noel himself abused the use of pro tools--auto tune in particular-- in this album. Yeah, but "Liam wouldn't be able to pull off most of the songs", lol right.... No need to 'lol' at my opinion. Do you honestly think Liam would have been able to pull off the high notes and falsettos in a track like TDOYAM, for instance? Not a hope. That has Noel sung written all over it. Same for AKA... WAL! etc. If they were on an Oasis album instead of a Noel solo album then Noel would have sung them. It's not that hard to comprehend. Noel and Liam have 2 completely different type of voices, that suit different types of songs. How the fuck am I a Noel dick rider for stating that?  . Liam is a better lead singer, but jesus christ he can't sing every single kind of song. You sound like a Liam dick rider if anything. When you learn to post properly and decently you can report back. Until then keep your lols to yourself, cheers. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 14, 2011 19:00:14 GMT -5
the Noel dick-riders seem to be neglecting the fact that Noel himself abused the use of pro tools--auto tune in particular-- in this album. Yeah, but "Liam wouldn't be able to pull off most of the songs", lol right.... No need to 'lol' at my opinion. Do you honestly think Liam would have been able to pull off the high notes and falsettos in a track like TDOYAM, for instance? Not a hope. That has Noel sung written all over it. Same for AKA... WAL! etc. If they were on an Oasis album instead of a Noel solo album then Noel would have sung them. It's not that hard to comprehend. Noel and Liam have 2 completely different type of voices, that suit different types of songs. How the fuck am I a Noel dick rider for stating that? . Liam is a better lead singer, but jesus christ he can't sing every single kind of song. You sound like a Liam dick rider if anything. When you learn to post properly and decently you can report back. Until then keep your lols to yourself, cheers. lmao what a poor little bitter kid anyways, i never said he could sing EVERY SINGLE SONG on the NGHFBs album. I think TDOYAM could've been tailored in a way so that Liam could sing it. It could've made more "rock" instead of "folk". Perhaps then, it would not sound exactly like a song we got in an Oasis album 6 years ago. Still, i wasn't referring to that song in particular, i don't love it per se but i can see how a lot of people do. WAL, i really couldn't care less for. In a way, it's just so gay, but again, if you're into that... what can i tell you? I think Liam could've elevated certain songs to another level(where they'd be near 9's or even 10's). I am talking of course, about IIHAG, STC, EOTR and Dream On. Those songs are very good. I really like Dream On, and EOTR is brilliant. That's what i was referring to, those ^ songs. But NO... according to you "the only songs on Noel's album lbah blah blah..." are you for real? that's half the album right there. |
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), this album would be seriously rivaling WTSMG. The quality of the songs are there.
. Liam is a better lead singer, but jesus christ he can't sing every single kind of song. You sound like a Liam dick rider if anything.
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