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Post by cloudburster on Oct 12, 2011 11:02:52 GMT -5
I'm seeing comments like "Noel would never do this" "This is why i prefer Noel" "Liam doesn't care about the fans, Noel does"
May I remind people that Noel walked off tour in 94, 96 and 2000, and quit the band in 2009 with 3 gigs left to play. It annoys me how one sided some people are and the flak Liam gets when he pulls out of ONE gig.
I love Noel and Liam equally, neither are perfect though
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 12, 2011 11:06:53 GMT -5
Yeah reading the comments on facebook etc is making me furious! Noel walked out of more gigs than Liam. And he didn't even have to sing that much. I don't say it's a good thing to pull out of a gig but as a singer being on tour all the time it can happen. Hell I even got a throat infection last week, it can happen to anyone!
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Post by cloudburster on Oct 12, 2011 11:11:59 GMT -5
Exactly it was the Facebook comments on Beady Eyes page that annoyed me the most. Noel isn't perfect either
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Post by Swarfiga on Oct 12, 2011 11:13:59 GMT -5
Yeah reading the comments on facebook etc is making me furious! Noel walked out of more gigs than Liam. And he didn't even have to sing that much. I don't say it's a good thing to pull out of a gig but as a singer being on tour all the time it can happen. Hell I even got a throat infection last week, it can happen to anyone! Well said!
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Post by ctmazin on Oct 12, 2011 11:14:50 GMT -5
Liam's problem is not that he is less of a professional than Noel. Noel and Liam have each had their share of "diva" moments over the years....
Liam's problem is that his voice is in very tenuous and rough shape. Partly due to lack of care in the past, partly due to wear and tear and partly due to an onstage technique that is hell on his vocal chords. This leads to wildly variable vocal performances and frequent bouts with pharangitis/laryginits.
Which people tend to attribute to lack of professionalism, which I don't think applies these days. Since 2009, Liam has tried his best, I think.
Noel's voice, on the other hand, has always held up quite well.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 12, 2011 11:26:59 GMT -5
If Noel gets a throat infection or has any medical reason that prevents him playing for fear of doing long term damage he would do the exact same thing. It's really bad luck for the fans that had tickets but if the guys throat is bad he can't sing end of. This isn't a pissy fit it's a sickness. In the same way it's one hundred percent right of Noel to cancel Oasis gigs while he recovered from broken ribs Liam is one hundred percent right here.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 12, 2011 11:48:54 GMT -5
who cares anyway. most of the people on BDIs site doesn't even like beady eye ;D
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 12, 2011 11:49:57 GMT -5
Which kind of says more about them than it does the band....
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Post by headshrinker84 on Oct 12, 2011 12:17:36 GMT -5
Yeah but why did Noel walk off them tours.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 12, 2011 12:27:14 GMT -5
Yeah but why did Noel walk off them tours. Cause he fell out with his brother, which is a much worse reason than a sickness. Whatever side you come down on, walking off over an argument has got to be worse than been too physically sick to perform. I have no doubt that Liam's behaviour was awful towards Noel but Noel could have still finished them tours, Liam's voice has gone he can't do these shows.
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Post by gdforever on Oct 12, 2011 12:31:25 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with Liam leaving those gigs.
Honesty...reading Facebook comments for BDI is like reading YouTube comments.
Why give a shit?
I had really hope that his improved vocal care and the changes in tunes and the sound on the stage would mean that stuff like this wouldn't happen anymore. Too bad for him and the fans that the vocal issues apparently will continue despite all apparent efforts to the contrary.
Did he explain to the crowd? Or did he just walk off btw?
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Post by fluff123 on Oct 12, 2011 12:31:41 GMT -5
I'm seeing comments like "Noel would never do this" "This is why i prefer Noel" "Liam doesn't care about the fans, Noel does" May I remind people that Noel walked off tour in 94, 96 and 2000, and quit the band in 2009 with 3 gigs left to play. It annoys me how one sided some people are and the flak Liam gets when he pulls out of ONE gig. I love Noel and Liam equally, neither are perfect though This is true, but don't forget that Noel only ever left or walked out because of Liam's behaviour. At the end of the day if Liam could just be 'normal' then we would still have oasis. Just my opinion.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 12, 2011 12:39:19 GMT -5
I'm seeing comments like "Noel would never do this" "This is why i prefer Noel" "Liam doesn't care about the fans, Noel does" May I remind people that Noel walked off tour in 94, 96 and 2000, and quit the band in 2009 with 3 gigs left to play. It annoys me how one sided some people are and the flak Liam gets when he pulls out of ONE gig. I love Noel and Liam equally, neither are perfect though This is true, but don't forget that Noel only ever left or walked out because of Liam's behaviour. At the end of the day if Liam could just be 'normal' then we would still have oasis. Just my opinion. Who would want a rock n roll star to be 'normal' ffs. You want them to have some charisma and be like the rest of us, flawed and fallible.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 12, 2011 12:41:24 GMT -5
I'm seeing comments like "Noel would never do this" "This is why i prefer Noel" "Liam doesn't care about the fans, Noel does" May I remind people that Noel walked off tour in 94, 96 and 2000, and quit the band in 2009 with 3 gigs left to play. It annoys me how one sided some people are and the flak Liam gets when he pulls out of ONE gig. I love Noel and Liam equally, neither are perfect though This is true, but don't forget that Noel only ever left or walked out because of Liam's behaviour. At the end of the day if Liam could just be 'normal' then we would still have oasis. Just my opinion. Well Gem and Andy have been in a band with him for eleven years and toured the world with him many times. They seem to think that he is normal. And if Liam had walked out on four tours because he fell out with Noel would you really accept that as a good excuse? Jesus the Noel arse kissing that goes on here is crazy. Both brothers have made many selfish and unprofessional decisions over the last seventeen years. To some it's part of the rock and roll, to others it's disgusting but either way neither of them are fantastic in this regard.
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Post by fluff123 on Oct 12, 2011 13:00:01 GMT -5
This is true, but don't forget that Noel only ever left or walked out because of Liam's behaviour. At the end of the day if Liam could just be 'normal' then we would still have oasis. Just my opinion. Well Gem and Andy have been in a band with him for eleven years and toured the world with him many times. They seem to think that he is normal. And if Liam had walked out on four tours because he fell out with Noel would you really accept that as a good excuse? Jesus the Noel arse kissing that goes on here is crazy. Both brothers have made many selfish and unprofessional decisions over the last seventeen years. To some it's part of the rock and roll, to others it's disgusting but either way neither of them are fantastic in this regard. The difference with Gem & Andy is, after the recording and the tour they will get some kind of 'time-out'. With Noel it was obviously different with Liam being family - it's always someone's birthday or whatever. They must have been fed up seeing the sight eachother (especially when it's never been plain sailing between them). Plus Liam is like a ticking time bomb and although I think both of them have grown up a hell of a lot, Noel seems to have matured a lot more & he's obviously put with Liam's antics for too long. Don't get me wrong - I love Liam as a geezer, but sometimes I do think "What the fuck is he doing??".
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Post by gdforever on Oct 12, 2011 13:04:07 GMT -5
It's true that the Noel walkouts were as bad or worse as the Liam cancellations.
Unfortunately, most of the people out there will point to the fact that Noel doesn't cancel shows, which he probably won't seeing as all his unprofessional cancellations have been band tension induced, whereas BDI do because I guess this proves that despite them apparently doing everything right Liam is still going to be having vocal issues.
Liam unfortunately will always have trouble living down his past behavior. People will always remember his highly publicized unprofessional behavior like the MTV unplugged and skipping some US to go house shopping or spitting of the VMA crowd preforming concerts drunk and generally dodgy vocal performances for a decade. He's going to have to live it down. And unfortunately it takes a lot longed to turn a reputation around than it takes to ruin it. Just the way life is. No use wailing about it.
No one other than us, that are watching and listening so closely, would really be aware of how much more effort his is making for BDI than he had been for latter-day Oasis.
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Post by icebreath on Oct 12, 2011 13:24:23 GMT -5
It's true that the Noel walkouts were as bad or worse as the Liam cancellations. Unfortunately, most of the people out there will point to the fact that Noel doesn't cancel shows, which he probably won't seeing as all his unprofessional cancellations have been band tension induced, whereas BDI do because I guess this proves that despite them apparently doing everything right Liam is still going to be having vocal issues. Liam unfortunately will always have trouble living down his past behavior. People will always remember his highly publicized unprofessional behavior like the MTV unplugged and skipping some US to go house shopping or spitting of the VMA crowd preforming concerts drunk and generally dodgy vocal performances for a decade. He's going to have to live it down. And unfortunately it takes a lot longed to turn a reputation around than it takes to ruin it. Just the way life is. No use wailing about it. No one other than us, that are watching and listening so closely, would really be aware of how much more effort his is making for BDI than he had been for latter-day Oasis. Great post
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Post by gdforever on Oct 12, 2011 13:36:59 GMT -5
Also...why is this in the Noel section?
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 12, 2011 14:09:06 GMT -5
retarded fanboys. what can you expect?
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Post by allah on Oct 12, 2011 14:12:56 GMT -5
retarded fanboys. what can you expect? lol
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 12, 2011 14:16:50 GMT -5
If he is ill, he is ill. That's it.
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 12, 2011 14:17:39 GMT -5
I'm seeing comments like "Noel would never do this" "This is why i prefer Noel" "Liam doesn't care about the fans, Noel does" May I remind people that Noel walked off tour in 94, 96 and 2000, and quit the band in 2009 with 3 gigs left to play. It annoys me how one sided some people are and the flak Liam gets when he pulls out of ONE gig. I love Noel and Liam equally, neither are perfect though This is true, but don't forget that Noel only ever left or walked out because of Liam's behaviour. At the end of the day if Liam could just be 'normal' then we would still have oasis. Just my opinion. You can say a lot about Liam but I think when it comes to the relationship between Noel and Liam and the blowups between them, Noel is at least (or even more) to blame than Liam. It always turns out like it is Liams fault, but that's mainly because Noel plays 'the game': Read this: www.nme.com/news/oasis/21163Liam was always a 100% full on Oasis. He would've never quit or ended the band. Just my opnion.
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Post by stanncie on Oct 12, 2011 18:22:58 GMT -5
I read this article when it came out and it pretty much confirmed for me the way Noel interacts with Liam. It's sad really. It's obvious to me that Liam has always seeked approval from Noel and even if he doesn't admit looked up to Noel since being a kid. Since Noel is not particularly a loving person Liam lashes out at him. I understand why Noel is the way he is though, growing up with an abusive father could not have been easy.
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Post by rcknrollstar on Oct 12, 2011 18:59:49 GMT -5
People are ridiculous. Some guy named Hansl? posted rubbish on the Beady Eye official page in the news section. What an idiot.
And apparently they play Three Ring Circus early in the set now?
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Post by rcknrollstar on Oct 12, 2011 19:06:51 GMT -5
Btw, Venice =/= Zürich?
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