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Post by supersonic1983 on May 21, 2012 7:41:14 GMT -5
can you explain the delusion of wanting a player who scores goals and also assists to other strikers ? Tevez came back and was pivotal in our run in.delusional ? yeah maybe if i supported the rags. He treated your club with absolute contempt. What's he done to earn your forgiveness? A hat-trick at Norwich? Wave about a silly banner? For the wages he's on you should demand far more of him. And don't kid yourself that he's any more committed to the cause than he was before he fucked off to Argentina. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2012 11:05:48 GMT -5
Are you drunk? Because you seem to have no concept of letter case or punctuation. Wanting Carlos Tevez at your club also suggests mild (or possibly stronger) delusion. sorry was i being tested ? i thought i left all that pish in high school.sorry your majesty. can you explain the delusion of wanting a player who scores goals and also assists to other strikers ? Tevez came back and was pivotal in our run in.delusional ? yeah maybe if i supported the rags. do you not think you would have won the title had he not come back? |
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Post by gavincampbell on May 22, 2012 3:52:25 GMT -5
can you explain the delusion of wanting a player who scores goals and also assists to other strikers ? Tevez came back and was pivotal in our run in.delusional ? yeah maybe if i supported the rags. He treated your club with absolute contempt. What's he done to earn your forgiveness? A hat-trick at Norwich? Wave about a silly banner? For the wages he's on you should demand far more of him. And don't kid yourself that he's any more committed to the cause than he was before he fucked off to Argentina. easy goals means points,points mean titles.how do you know how much wages hes on btw ? as its unknown between a lot of our own fans or are you just going by what you read in the press ? not commited ? sure about that ? |
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Post by gavincampbell on May 22, 2012 3:53:36 GMT -5
sorry was i being tested ? i thought i left all that pish in high school.sorry your majesty. can you explain the delusion of wanting a player who scores goals and also assists to other strikers ? Tevez came back and was pivotal in our run in.delusional ? yeah maybe if i supported the rags. do you not think you would have won the title had he not come back? well no. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 22, 2012 5:06:23 GMT -5
easy goals means points,points mean titles. Is it that easy to earn your respect? And without knowing the exact figure, I also think it's reasonable to assume that Tevez is on what you and I would consider to be a high salary. Quite a high salary. You might choose to defend a well-paid footballer's right to go AWOL for half of the season, and that's your right, although personally I find the concept somewhat baffling. |
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Post by Brenno on May 22, 2012 5:09:08 GMT -5
Fergie sign him up, Fergie Fergie sign him up!!!
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Post by gavincampbell on May 22, 2012 10:00:04 GMT -5
easy goals means points,points mean titles. Is it that easy to earn your respect? And without knowing the exact figure, I also think it's reasonable to assume that Tevez is on what you and I would consider to be a high salary. Quite a high salary. You might choose to defend a well-paid footballer's right to go AWOL for half of the season, and that's your right, although personally I find the concept somewhat baffling. True but you support a team who call themselves manchester i find find that baffling.also find it baffling that many of your lot say we bought the title. yes we bought expensive players but would we of had to if you ACTUALLY played young kids from your academy and nurtured them like fergie said previously during the season (who were they btw ? we had 1 in micah richards just incase you feel the need ask)your team was more expensive than ours so guess money cant buy titles after all.THE BLUE MOON HAS RISEN |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 10:54:14 GMT -5
Is it that easy to earn your respect? And without knowing the exact figure, I also think it's reasonable to assume that Tevez is on what you and I would consider to be a high salary. Quite a high salary. You might choose to defend a well-paid footballer's right to go AWOL for half of the season, and that's your right, although personally I find the concept somewhat baffling. True but you support a team who call themselves manchester i find find that baffling.also find it baffling that many of your lot say we bought the title. yes we bought expensive players but would we of had to if you ACTUALLY played young kids from your academy and nurtured them like fergie said previously during the season (who were they btw ? we had 1 in micah richards just incase you feel the need ask)your team was more expensive than ours so guess money cant buy titles after all.THE BLUE MOON HAS RISEN academy players include ryan giggs, paul scholes, darren fletcher, jonny evans, tom cleverley & danny welbeck. where is the proof that manchester united is more expensive? |
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 22, 2012 11:48:42 GMT -5
True but you support a team who call themselves manchester i find find that baffling. Fucking hell. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 22, 2012 12:16:40 GMT -5
Surprised to see that gavincampbell has been here since 2004. He posts like someone who just signed up and the way he talks suggests the naïvety of a 14 year old yet he was supposedly born in 1978. I'm a bit shocked tbh.
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Post by gavincampbell on May 23, 2012 4:21:22 GMT -5
True but you support a team who call themselves manchester i find find that baffling.also find it baffling that many of your lot say we bought the title. yes we bought expensive players but would we of had to if you ACTUALLY played young kids from your academy and nurtured them like fergie said previously during the season (who were they btw ? we had 1 in micah richards just incase you feel the need ask)your team was more expensive than ours so guess money cant buy titles after all.THE BLUE MOON HAS RISEN academy players include ryan giggs, paul scholes, darren fletcher, jonny evans, tom cleverley & danny welbeck. where is the proof that manchester united is more expensive? giggs came from city scholes came from oldham fletcher came from scotland you bought evans cleverley and welbeck last season. do the maths look at the 11 players on the park for you against sunderland.look at the 11 we had on against qpr and compare.simple really oasistoonfan am a bit shocked at your problem with me now unless your gonna discuss football fuck off |
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 23, 2012 4:34:29 GMT -5
Dogma.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 4:35:37 GMT -5
academy players include ryan giggs, paul scholes, darren fletcher, jonny evans, tom cleverley & danny welbeck. where is the proof that manchester united is more expensive? giggs came from city scholes came from oldham fletcher came from scotland you bought evans cleverley and welbeck last season. do the maths look at the 11 players on the park for you against sunderland.look at the 11 we had on against qpr and compare.simple really oasistoonfan am a bit shocked at your problem with me now unless your gonna discuss football fuck off you said academy not that they are from manchester, evans was at the club for more than a season, cleverly and welbeck came back from loan spells. As for giggs he joined united at 14 i think we can claim him as our own. I'll let you go back to rewritting history. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 23, 2012 4:42:44 GMT -5
you said academy not that they are from manchester. Judging by his position on Paul Scholes I think he's after a list of players that were born in the training ground car park. |
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Post by gavincampbell on May 23, 2012 10:54:35 GMT -5
giggs came from city scholes came from oldham fletcher came from scotland you bought evans cleverley and welbeck last season. do the maths look at the 11 players on the park for you against sunderland.look at the 11 we had on against qpr and compare.simple really oasistoonfan am a bit shocked at your problem with me now unless your gonna discuss football fuck off you said academy not that they are from manchester, evans was at the club for more than a season, cleverly and welbeck came back from loan spells. As for giggs he joined united at 14 i think we can claim him as our own. I'll let you go back to rewritting history. bought from other academys ? no re writing of history go look at your history .no supersonic i wasnt saying you need be manchester but products of your OWN academy and not poached or bribed to come to salford. sorry i dont pay attention much to your club signings but am sure all those listed came from elsewhere. back to point about tevez.sure i am happy for him to stay would rather he went off and played golf than shagged his brothers wife or had sex with pensioner prostitutes while his wife was pregnant. guess we all have different morals |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 12:12:57 GMT -5
you said academy not that they are from manchester, evans was at the club for more than a season, cleverly and welbeck came back from loan spells. As for giggs he joined united at 14 i think we can claim him as our own. I'll let you go back to rewritting history. bought from other academys ? no re writing of history go look at your history .no supersonic i wasnt saying you need be manchester but products of your OWN academy and not poached or bribed to come to salford. sorry i dont pay attention much to your club signings but am sure all those listed came from elsewhere. back to point about tevez.sure i am happy for him to stay would rather he went off and played golf than shagged his brothers wife or had sex with pensioner prostitutes while his wife was pregnant. guess we all have different morals the difference is the wife's should divorce the unfaithful husband's the club should sack tevez as he breached his contract with them. just another case of you attempting to change the subject away from the problems at man city. |
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Post by gavincampbell on May 23, 2012 13:19:32 GMT -5
bought from other academys ? no re writing of history go look at your history .no supersonic i wasnt saying you need be manchester but products of your OWN academy and not poached or bribed to come to salford. sorry i dont pay attention much to your club signings but am sure all those listed came from elsewhere. back to point about tevez.sure i am happy for him to stay would rather he went off and played golf than shagged his brothers wife or had sex with pensioner prostitutes while his wife was pregnant. guess we all have different morals the difference is the wife's should divorce the unfaithful husband's the club should sack tevez as he breached his contract with them. just another case of you attempting to change the subject away from the problems at man city. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 13:44:29 GMT -5
the difference is the wife's should divorce the unfaithful husband's the club should sack tevez as he breached his contract with them. just another case of you attempting to change the subject away from the problems at man city. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are: 1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official. 2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him. 3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club. 4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute). 5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club. from www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2011/october/club-statement-carlos-tevez-oct-25 |
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 23, 2012 16:48:07 GMT -5
sure i am happy for him to stay would rather he went off and played golf than shagged his brothers wife or had sex with pensioner prostitutes while his wife was pregnant. To be clear, you just compared Ryan Giggs, a decorated club legend of 20 years, and arguably our greatest ever player, whose philandering had no effect on either his or his club's performance, with Carlos Tevez, an overpaid sulk in the third year of his contract who abandoned his team in the middle of a title challenge. Unless it interferes with his football a player's private life is exactly that; private, and therefore irrelevant. And it's for that reason, amongst others, that I have almost no respect for Wayne Rooney. I won't forgive him for allowing the Jennifer Thompson affair to take a serious toll on his form, nor will I forgive him for using City's apparent interest as a means of securing a more lucrative contract last October. Therein lies the difference. All I'm suggesting is that you set your standards a little higher and demand a little bit of professionalism. You shouldn't be defending Tevez. You should be fucking furious at him. |
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Post by gavincampbell on May 23, 2012 19:07:27 GMT -5
how about your manager when his son got the sack from (doncaster ?) straight away pulled his loan players back is that professionalism of the highest order ? the team subsequently got relagated.
ryan giggs a city academy boy if i remember rightly ?
of course i was furious at the time but life is strange.he scored a great hat trick against norwich and assited 2 others.5 of the 8 goal difference that gave us the league.so yes hes forgiven.
a bit off topic here but was reading this morning that both our teams share of tv revenue (champions league)is being cut as chelsea are getting 30% same as us (we should of recieved 40% as champs)and yourselves 25% that must be a bit of a blow for yous considering its start of audit for ffpr ? considering your lack of trophies and poor CL run along with current debts will yous be making enough cover it ? no digs just curious.
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Post by gavincampbell on May 23, 2012 19:10:43 GMT -5
how do you know what his contract says ? or is that just a guess ?no problems at eastlands were the champions of england. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are: 1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official. 2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him. 3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club. 4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute). 5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club. from www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2011/october/club-statement-carlos-tevez-oct-25again where does it say sackable offence ? do you really believe we wouldnt of sacked him if it was legal to do so ? |
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 24, 2012 3:27:23 GMT -5
of course i was furious at the time but life is strange.he scored a great hat trick against norwich and assited 2 others.5 of the 8 goal difference that gave us the league.so yes hes forgiven. Alright, I think you're letting him off easily though. You could just as easily argue that the title was won in the last five minutes at Old Trafford. That alone accounts for six of the eight goals. We won't know exactly how badly United's finances have been affected by on-field performance until the next quarterly results are published in August. I don't think the club is in any danger of breaking the rules on FFP, but with a stock market flotation planned I am curious to see what the Glazers do with the money they raise, especially as the squad needs some serious investment if United are going to remain competitive. |
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Post by gavincampbell on May 24, 2012 3:44:33 GMT -5
of course i was furious at the time but life is strange.he scored a great hat trick against norwich and assited 2 others.5 of the 8 goal difference that gave us the league.so yes hes forgiven. Alright, I think you're letting him off easily though. You could just as easily argue that the title was won in the last five minutes at Old Trafford. That alone accounts for six of the eight goals. We won't know exactly how badly United's finances have been affected by on-field performance until the next quarterly results are published in August. I don't think the club is in any danger of breaking the rules on FFP, but with a stock market flotation planned I am curious to see what the Glazers do with the money they raise, especially as the squad needs some serious investment if United are going to remain competitive. is this the asian market plan ? i thought it was scrapped due to lack of interest ? Yeah think the Glazers will need put their hand in their pockets and not just on Hazard(if he picks you out of the three)Am under no illusion that yous will be chasing for the title again and along with Chelsea and Arsenal will be our biggest rivals.If yous dont get a trophy next season i can see Fergie packing in. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 4:34:44 GMT -5
The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are: 1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official. 2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him. 3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club. 4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute). 5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club. from www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2011/october/club-statement-carlos-tevez-oct-25again where does it say sackable offence ? do you really believe we wouldnt of sacked him if it was legal to do so ? they could have sacked him for breach of contract, they didn't because they wanted to make more money by selling him. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/city-will-only-get-17m-if-they-sack-and-sue-tevez-6262698.html |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 4:36:31 GMT -5
Alright, I think you're letting him off easily though. You could just as easily argue that the title was won in the last five minutes at Old Trafford. That alone accounts for six of the eight goals. We won't know exactly how badly United's finances have been affected by on-field performance until the next quarterly results are published in August. I don't think the club is in any danger of breaking the rules on FFP, but with a stock market flotation planned I am curious to see what the Glazers do with the money they raise, especially as the squad needs some serious investment if United are going to remain competitive. is this the asian market plan ? i thought it was scrapped due to lack of interest ? Yeah think the Glazers will need put their hand in their pockets and not just on Hazard(if he picks you out of the three)Am under no illusion that yous will be chasing for the title again and along with Chelsea and Arsenal will be our biggest rivals.If yous dont get a trophy next season i can see Fergie packing in. i can't see fergie leaving without winning something the season he leaves, unless health stops him. |
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