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Post by joeyfrancis on Aug 13, 2011 10:53:56 GMT -5
Assuming that everyone agrees Oasis was the best britpop band, who do think wins the silver medal? The definition of britpop here is rather loose, so the Stone Roses, Manic Street Preachers, and the Verve are all in there, despite their non-britpop beginnings. I couldn't include all of them, so my apologies to all you huge Menswear fans.
I went for the Manics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 10:58:14 GMT -5
Went for Blur, songs like No Distance Left To Run, Your So Great, Sweet Song, Out Of Time, in the later albums they really upped Their game. When Blur made bad song they were awful but when the got it right they were MEGA good
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Post by BlueJay on Aug 13, 2011 11:01:57 GMT -5
Pulp. Babies. Lipgloss. Do You Remember the First Time. Jarvis. Cock.
The Roses shouldn't be here, classifying them as Britpop is an insult to their intelligence.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 13, 2011 11:05:28 GMT -5
Yeah, The Stone Roses aren't Britpop.
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Post by joeyfrancis on Aug 13, 2011 11:19:53 GMT -5
They weren't completely britpop and they predated the movement, but you can't deny the fact that songs like Ten Storey Love Song or How Do You Sleep are completely britpop.
The same can be said for earlier songs like Sally Cinnamon or She Bangs The Drums.
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Post by manualex on Aug 13, 2011 12:58:32 GMT -5
I dont think that the manics fit in the britpop 'scene' but I'll vote for them because they did a very good albums runs in the 90's(The Holy Bible, Everything Must Go and This is my thruth)
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 13, 2011 14:53:26 GMT -5
Pulp, no competition
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Post by putthisin ® on Aug 13, 2011 15:54:34 GMT -5
Suede
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 17:38:43 GMT -5
Oasis = BritPop like Nirvana = Grunge
There are no other artist that fit the mold. Why is there no "I abstain" option?
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Post by BlueJay on Aug 13, 2011 21:58:02 GMT -5
Oasis = BritPop like Nirvana = Grunge There are no other artist that fit the mold. Why is there no "I abstain" option? Wrong. I agree with John Harris when he describes Oasis' arrival as that of a gatecrasher on an already flourishing party. Oasis represent nineties music and modern British music, but they don't embody the Britpop aesthetic. They didn't sound anything near as British or indie as all of the other major bands from the time, they stood out because they refused to follow the typical conventions of the Smiths and Joy Division influenced bands around them. Suede and Blur are the only bands that are inseparable with the Britpop tag. They are Britpop, Oasis were merely around at the time that it was taking place. |
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Post by good-rebel on Aug 14, 2011 4:08:02 GMT -5
Stone Roses in there  But why The La's is not getting any love?  I know they've done only one album, but they're good. Could be better.. If Mavers act like he ACTUALLY gives a fuck.. I want some new stuffs from him! Anyone? |
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Post by styles on Aug 14, 2011 7:12:12 GMT -5
Oasis = BritPop like Nirvana = Grunge There are no other artist that fit the mold. Why is there no "I abstain" option? Being British I can categorically tell you, that there were plenty of other relevant bands at that time who fit the "brit pop" mould. Dismissing everything and everyone other than Oasis at that time is ultimately doing a complete dis-service to how good those times were in England. |
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 14, 2011 11:40:32 GMT -5
The Roses aren't Britpop, they came way before the movement
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Aug 14, 2011 11:59:53 GMT -5
The Roses are definitely the best out of this bunch, but I'm really surprised to see them in here...not a real britpop band.
Apart from them, my favorite is Blur. They have at least 10-15 really, really good songs and Modern Life Is Rubbish is one of my favorite albums of all time.
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Post by matt on Aug 14, 2011 17:19:29 GMT -5
Second best band? I'd have to say Blur - they are just fantastic, and as supersonic26 states, Modern Life Is Rubbish is one of my favourite albums ever. The 90s were just great for guitar music - we've never had it so good.
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Post by matt on Aug 14, 2011 17:23:19 GMT -5
Stone Roses in there But why The La's is not getting any love? I know they've done only one album, but they're good. Could be better.. If Mavers act like he ACTUALLY gives a fuck.. I want some new stuffs from him! Anyone? Good point, The La's album is one of my favourite albums ever also, but like The Stone Roses, they came a bit before britpop. Like yourself, I'm itching for new stuff from Mavers. Anyone know what he's up to? I remember a couple of years back there were reports he was ready to record - have no idea what happened next. |
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Post by paranoidandroid on Aug 15, 2011 4:00:57 GMT -5
well i liked Blur before i got into Oasis (dont shoot me) so blur get my vote.
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Post by lionsden® on Aug 15, 2011 18:39:58 GMT -5
Where is Bush?
Did anyone in the UK even like them? Do they even qualify as "BritPop" ?
I liked Sixteen Stone, but nothing much from them after that.
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Post by putthisin ® on Aug 15, 2011 19:49:03 GMT -5
Where is Bush? Did anyone in the UK even like them? Do they even qualify as "BritPop" ? I liked Sixteen Stone, but nothing much from them after that. Aren't they more like a grunge band? |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 16, 2011 18:34:58 GMT -5
I'll go with Blur, with Pulp at a close second. I can't discount Park Life, Modern Life Is Rubbish, nor Blur. That's just too impressive, especially when compared to other Brit-pop bands that bsacially only had 1 or 2 big or good albums.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 17, 2011 11:39:21 GMT -5
Probably his Texas ranch ;D |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 17, 2011 12:07:16 GMT -5
I picked Blur
I daresay they were even bigger proponents of Britpop than Oasis. I think that Oasis are the better band...but I think that Blur fit much more comfortably in the bracket of Britpop.
I never thought that Oasis fit that well into that first wave of Britpop exemplified by Suede, Blur, and Pulp. After Oasis came there were bands to bridge that gap but I don't really think of them belonging to a genre in that way.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 17, 2011 12:26:45 GMT -5
I never thought that Oasis fit that well into that first wave of Britpop exemplified by Suede, Blur, and Pulp. After Oasis came there were bands to bridge that gap but I don't really think of them belonging to a genre in that way. I guess. Brit Pop is a very wide sub-genre, that has more to do with the influence and components of the sound/band, than the actual sound itself. Even if one looks at the beginning definition of what Brit Pop was, one could say that Oasis fit that definition perfectly. A band that shows reverence for the great British guitar pop/punk bands of the past, that has guitar, bass, drum vocals. With vocals being done in the regional accent. Really any band during that time that showed a great reverence for the past, would be considered Brit Pop. Being a Brit Pop band has more to with the influences/components of the band, than the actual sound itself. I've always thought of Brit Pop as more of a movement than an actual genre or sub-genre. Just because the definition is so loose. I mean even if one takes the earliest definition of Brit Pop, they could make a case that even Radiohead were a Brit Pop band. But I get what you're saying, anyways. Because even when thinking about it like that, it's still hard for me to think of Oasis as part of Brit Pop. But clearly they were, if one looks at the earliest definition of what Brit Pop was. |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 17, 2011 12:46:50 GMT -5
But I think that generally the early bands seemed quite, maybe it's not the right word, subtle and nuanced in their music and lyrics. Oasis seemed brash and bombastic.
Britpop lyrics dealt so much with class and cultural commentary. Oasis' dealt with their own lives. They were of a class...but not actually talking about class or culture in an intentional way. Only in so far as their cultural and class background affected them.
I do find it easier to group Suede, Blur, Pulp, Elastica, etc. If Oasis and the bands that were signed because of their success weren't so firmly identified as Britpop I think that the definition of Britpop would be much more like that of a genre as opposed to as you say "a movement".
I think that the inclusion of Oasis and their progeny was a big reason that the Britpop label is wide to the point of meaninglessness.
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Post by NYR on Aug 17, 2011 22:58:08 GMT -5
i'm saying the la's because nobody else is. that album is amazing.
if not them, it's either the verve or pulp.
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I know they've done only one album, but they're good. Could be better.. If Mavers act like he ACTUALLY gives a fuck.. I want some new stuffs from him!
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