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Post by start at the end on Jul 28, 2011 9:23:26 GMT -5
Not to be the turd in the punch bowl, and I'm glad it hit a million, but on a globe with 6+ BILLION it's hard to say just how "big" it is, you know? I mean Lady Gaga's excruciating "Judas" has over 80 MILLION views since May and had over 10 million in its first week. "Bad Romance" has a half billion. That's BILLION. Just saying. Who cares. Compare TDOYAM to The Roller, Falling Down etc., that's what really counts - or did you expect Noel to trump Justin Bieber or fuckin Lady Gaga? I sure didn't... All three DOYS singles have approximately 3,5 million views. They were released three years ago, under the name Oasis. TDOYAM got to 1 million in three days... No, I didn't expect it to "trump" anything, I'm just perhaps cautioning those who may be getting a bit overly-excited. It didn't trump gaga...it didn't get half the views...or 1/4...it's about 1/10th. I think Coldplay was 3-4 million in their first week with Every Teardrop and that's dreadful AFAIC. Take it as you will. |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 28, 2011 9:28:22 GMT -5
NEVER compare Noel Gallagher to Lady Gaga. Well seeing there's a few billion measures by which to, surely some of them are valid: like who's more globally popular right now? Or better, is there a reasonable gauge to measure another's popularity against hers, seeing she's right near or at the top of the list? Seems pretty reasonable and valid to me. And if you think I'm contrasting them on an artistic validity level, there's not a lot I can do for you. I personally think they should use her garbage to interrogate al Qaeda prisoners. |
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Post by gdforever on Jul 28, 2011 9:31:42 GMT -5
Coldplay is massive. Of course they got viewed more.
It's better than most of us expected. Who made you the reality police?
It's better than bands like The Stokes or BDI which are more to Noel's level.
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 28, 2011 10:33:40 GMT -5
Not to be the turd in the punch bowl, and I'm glad it hit a million, but on a globe with 6+ BILLION it's hard to say just how "big" it is, you know? I mean Lady Gaga's excruciating "Judas" has over 80 MILLION views since May and had over 10 million in its first week. "Bad Romance" has a half billion. That's BILLION. Just saying. Let's see what kind of numbers Lady Gaga gets when she is 44, like Noel is. THEN I will be impressed.  |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 28, 2011 10:38:44 GMT -5
Coldplay is massive. Of course they got viewed more. It's better than most of us expected. Who made you the reality police? It's better than bands like The Stokes or BDI which are more to Noel's level. no dick, I'm not the reality police, just trying to enlighten ill or uninformed dipshits that a million views in a week for the lead single from the leader of a band from England with (7) number one albums and ~20 top ten singles isn't something to get in a twist over. and yeah coldplay garnered more..at nearly a 4/1 clip. that's beyond substantial last time I checked and even more "disheartening" when you consider the mediocrity of the tune...even by the last half decade of coldplay's standards. Never said it was anything other than that. Such is life. "Success" will be viewed through a million different prisms and this board will be no different. It'll be "bad" considering..."good" considering...or total shit considering... it's all relative to the point of comparison. |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 28, 2011 10:48:36 GMT -5
to be quite honest, I'm not sure if it's done an inch better or worse than I expected.
this man has MILLIONS of hard core fans in England ALONE and if just a % of them popped on youtube to watch the video, I'd imagine it could quickly pace towards a million.
I think using this figure to point to a new breed/generation of fans is a bit much at this point.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 28, 2011 10:57:27 GMT -5
It is very hard to get excited over YouTube hits. Especially when the video was featured on YouTube which lets millions of eyeballs see it with easy access that normally wouldn't give it the time of day. Am I glad it hit a million yes but I am not sure of the significance or impact when if you take a look around YouTube so many crap artists have videos with 30, 40, 50, 100 million views for their videos. Compared to those videos Noel would have a long way to go for a 44 year old man. Let's all just be happy that the music is quality and he keeps pumping it out regardless if it becomes a hit or not.
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Post by darkside on Jul 28, 2011 11:01:22 GMT -5
fucking love it! the Chief is back, that's for sure
great news, the single is fantastic and the video is fucking great
already like a million views and was released 4 days ago! amazing!!
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Post by gdforever on Jul 28, 2011 11:09:18 GMT -5
Coldplay is massive. Of course they got viewed more. It's better than most of us expected. Who made you the reality police? It's better than bands like The Stokes or BDI which are more to Noel's level. no dick, I'm not the reality police, just trying to enlighten ill or uninformed dipshits that a million views in a week for the lead single from the leader of a band from England with (7) number one albums and ~20 top ten singles isn't something to get in a twist over. Never said it was anything other than that. You don't think that we should be impressed? Oasis were hardly casting an impressive shadow over the internet. It's impressive that Noel is even making a dent...let alone a dent bigger than Oasis did with DOYS. This wasn't a comparison to the general musical landscape. Justin Beiber and Lady Gaga are internet sensations. You could compare them too anyone and the other person would lose. If you use the google insight feature...there are more searchs on google of Justin Bieber than God over the last 12 months and Lady Gaga is right there amongst them. But honestly...the most interesting part about it is that if you open the trend boxes on the video it's amazingly widespread. I expected the concentration to be all in the UK. But it's showing up with views globally! N. America, Europe, Australia, parts of Asia (although I just noticed that Japan seems weirdly white...strange), S. America That is the coolest thing about it IMO |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 28, 2011 11:11:36 GMT -5
gdforever's awesome.
aloha!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 28, 2011 11:18:37 GMT -5
Again...a big part of the reason it got so many views so fast is it's placement as a featured video. YouTube gets 100 million video views a day. Being featured is huge in spreading the links globally. It is no surprise the video has been viewed in all those countries. Practically every music video that gets featured hits a million plus views. Very rare when that does not happen so let's all be glad Noel didn't fall into that camp.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jul 28, 2011 11:21:06 GMT -5
It's interesting looking at the Youtube statistics. According to that, this video has only skyrocketed up since debuting. Popular in Western Europe, the Americas, Australia, Eastern Europe, South Africa, and surprisingly....Burundi. Ok, just kidding about Burundi. Honors: #34 - Most Discussed (This Month) - Music - United Kingdom #61 - Top Favorited (This Month) - Music - United Kingdom #27 - Top Rated (This Month) - Music - United Kingdom #129 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Tunisia #120 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Yemen #44 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Australia #18 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Ireland #64 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - India #42 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - New Zealand #79 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - South Africa #129 - Most Viewed (Today) - Argentina #26 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Argentina #135 - Most Viewed (Today) - Italy #21 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Italy #75 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - South Korea #91 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Netherlands #156 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Poland #129 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Brazil #73 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Russia #43 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Sweden #173 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Hong Kong #85 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - Taiwan sad to not see the U.S. there. actually disappointing since the freaking thing was featured on the home page but whatever... most idiots will only watch Justin Bieber's crap and Lady Gaga. oh well... at least it did good just about everywhere else. |
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Post by gdforever on Jul 28, 2011 11:22:50 GMT -5
He got featured because he was getting big enough views.
I believe he was featured on the third day wasn't he? He was in the top 10 most viewed music videos worldwide on the 26th...the second day.
Although the featuring undoubtably helped.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 28, 2011 11:31:07 GMT -5
To be featured on YouTube takes a lot of work. It requires your PR people to lobby hard with YouTube editors for placement. Only they decide. Once featured you are locked in to get a million hits while being featured. It is the nature of the beast. That being said at the end of the day a million, two million or five million ain't shit in the YouTube world.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 28, 2011 11:44:03 GMT -5
To be featured on YouTube takes a lot of work. It requires your PR people to lobby hard with YouTube editors for placement. Only they decide. Once featured you are locked in to get a million hits while being featured. It is the nature of the beast. That being said at the end of the day a million, two million or five million ain't shit in the YouTube world. But I do think that it's a good sign, in that Noel's management were willing to lobby for it and able to get it. I think that shows more than whatever number Youtube hits he has. It shows that there is a bit of a drive in the Noel camp to succeed. And it did get the video out to casual Oasis fans. Which was the thing that Beady Eye was missing. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 28, 2011 11:59:34 GMT -5
Yes it is better to be featured than not be featured and I like that he got a million views and not 70,000. We shall see how it develops and impacts album sales. The top selling artist in the US thus far in 2011: is
1. Adele 2.5 million
2. Lady Gaga 1.5 million
3. Mumford & Sons 982,000
4. Jason Aldean 763,000
5. Bruno Mars 686,000
All these artists have videos with views into 100 plus million range. If Noel's video is a "hit", what the hell are these videos considered? Even with all those views gained on youtube it doesn't really translate into huge album sales. If Adele has 140 million views for Rolling in the Deep (and thats just one song's views) and it only gave her 2.5 million albums sold, I wonder what a million views will equal for Noel?
Just interesting stuff really. The wild west that is the internet. I stand by the fact that the words "hit" and "viral" are two of the most over used terms on the internet today. It is the equivalent of when record labels have a sticker on the album that says "featuring the hits singles...". Literally every album in a record store says that. They can't all be hits!
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Post by gdforever on Jul 28, 2011 12:13:37 GMT -5
You are taking this "hit" thread title too seriously.
Again...Noel reached 600K on his own...so more than half...before being featured.
And YouTube hits more likely translate into singles sales than album sales anyways. In the days of the internet very rarely does anyone buy albums when they only know that they like 1 song. Particularly in the case of artists with radio hits like Adele and Lady Gaga
That being said I bought both the Bruno Mars and Adele albums and love them.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 28, 2011 12:20:20 GMT -5
You are taking this "hit" thread title too seriously. Again...Noel reached 600K on his own...so more than half...before being featured. And YouTube hits more likely translate into singles sales than album sales anyways. In the days of the internet very rarely does anyone buy albums when they only know that they like 1 song. Particularly in the case of artists with radio hits like Adele and Lady Gaga That being said I bought both the Bruno Mars and Adele albums and love them. Agree. (well except on the Bruno Mars  ) Some people in this thread are acting as if someone said that Noel was about sell 10 million albums around the world, and have number 1 hits in the US. No one has said that he'll sell Gaga albums, or Adele albums. Or that he'll be the next Youtube sensation and take the world by storm. People have only said that this is a very good sign, especially considering Noel's artist profile. That being that he's a 44 year old artist, who has his debut song out. This is a hit in terms of "Noel standards". |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 28, 2011 12:21:10 GMT -5
I am sorry If I am being a downer, just trying to curb some enthusiasm on this news. I do not take much stock in this video being a self proclaimed YouTube "hit" by the Noel camp. I hope it does translate into very good single or album sales. I only wish the single didn't come out 4 weeks from now! It should have come out this coming Monday or Tuesday. A week after the video/radio debuts. Most Oasis/Noel/Liam fans already bootlegged a copy of the single. Granted I know we will all still buy the single I hope, there are still many out there who will not because they can get it free in two seconds online. Same with the b-side when it eventually leaks. Noel has got to update his esoteric music releases. It worked in 1995. Not in 2011.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 28, 2011 12:23:25 GMT -5
I am sorry If I am being a downer, just trying to curb some enthusiasm on this news. I do not take much stock in this video being a self proclaimed YouTube "hit" by the Noel camp. I hope it does translate into very good single or album sales. I only wish the single didn't come out 4 weeks from now! It should have come out this coming Monday or Tuesday. A week after the video/radio debuts. Most Oasis/Noel/Liam fans already bootlegged a copy of the single. Granted I know we will all still buy the single I hope, there are still many out there who will not because they can get it free in two seconds online. Same with the b-side when it eventually leaks. Noel has got to update his esoteric music releases. It worked in 1995. Not in 2011. When has the Noel camp even said that it was hit? Like I said, no one on this thread has had delusions of grandeur. It's not like people are creaming on themselves about Noel breaking America or something. And I don't think the release date matters as much as some are saying. The people who want to buy, will buy it. The people who won't buy, probably would have downloaded anyways and not bought it. Even if it was ready to sell today. |
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 28, 2011 12:25:24 GMT -5
why is it so important that noel grabs huge success in the u.s? i don't see the point. oasis as a europe supergroup didn't hit the u.s after be here now. so i don't think noel will. it's a good thing seeing his video gets so much attention but that doesn't mean anything and it will not effect the album sales.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 28, 2011 12:27:47 GMT -5
Well on his website someone posted under news that it had hit one million plays. I guess I assumed they considered it a hit or a milestone of some sorts for youtube videos. I say it is a very good start and am happy with the music that was released. Excited for more!
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Post by gdforever on Jul 28, 2011 12:27:51 GMT -5
I am sorry If I am being a downer, just trying to curb some enthusiasm on this news. I do not take much stock in this video being a self proclaimed YouTube "hit" by the Noel camp. I hope it does translate into very good single or album sales. I only wish the single didn't come out 4 weeks from now! It should have come out this coming Monday or Tuesday. A week after the video/radio debuts. Most Oasis/Noel/Liam fans already bootlegged a copy of the single. Granted I know we will all still buy the single I hope, there are still many out there who will not because they can get it free in two seconds online. Same with the b-side when it eventually leaks. Noel has got to update his esoteric music releases. It worked in 1995. Not in 2011. When has the Noel camp even said that it was hit? Like I said, no one on this thread has had delusions of grandeur. It's not like people are creaming on themselves about Noel breaking America or something. And I don't think the release date matters as much as some are saying. The people who want to buy, will buy it. The people who won't buy, probably would have downloaded anyways and not bought it. Even if it was ready to sell today. I think he is preoccupied with the word "hit" in the title. We do celebrate the small things. Like a video taking off well. We also celebrate airplays far below the likes of the "every hour on the hour" airplays of Justin Beiber and Lady Gaga. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. We want Noel to be a success...but I doubt anyone here thinks he is going to be massive in the mainstream. |
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Post by bwilder on Jul 28, 2011 12:53:53 GMT -5
Let's get one thing straight: I (along with the majority of supporters on this forum) have absolutely no expectation in the vicinity of Noel having a chart-topping hit or even a gold record in the US. But it was pretty remarkable how many views TDOYAM got in just three days. That's a fact and that's all we're saying.
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Post by start at the end on Jul 28, 2011 13:11:06 GMT -5
Again...a big part of the reason it got so many views so fast is it's placement as a featured video. YouTube gets 100 million video views a day. Being featured is huge in spreading the links globally. It is no surprise the video has been viewed in all those countries. Practically every music video that gets featured hits a million plus views. Very rare when that does not happen so let's all be glad Noel didn't fall into that camp. You may as well fill both your eyeballs with toothpicks my friend. You're hitting on very sensical points to a numbered few that have not only drank the kool-aid, but are ransacking the cabinets for more mix. |
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