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Post by spaneli on Jul 27, 2011 12:10:30 GMT -5
I played the best songs on DGSS after listening to TDOYAM and I still enjoyed the DGSS more. I think I've racked up about 5 or 6 plays or Noels new one so far, when The Roller came out that figure was more like 20. I guess I just prefer rock and roll rather than Noel by numbers. I'm really hoping it's not the best thing he's got on his album. I'm also with GDForver on this. Since when did song like POTQ & TIOBI, or TDOYAM, become Noel by the numbers. The main reason that most people don't like Lyla, or the TSOTL, is because people consider it Noel by the numbers. By the definition that some people have, it seems like every Noel song is Noel by the numbers. |
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Post by good-rebel on Jul 27, 2011 13:50:48 GMT -5
It's pointless comparing BDI to Noel. They're both different.
I'm not comparing here, when I first heard Bring The Light, I knew something was missing. And it is the lyrics obviously. FLW, Kill for a dream and The Beat goes on are mega though IMO. I've always prefer Noel as a songwriter, and with The Death of You and Me, I liked it on the first listen itself. That chorus, come on, it's incredible.
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 9:13:21 GMT -5
My list of songs on DGSS better than TDOYAM:
End of list.
Noel's rectum > BDI's entire collective history
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Post by starwillshine on Jul 28, 2011 9:49:37 GMT -5
Thats a bit far is it not Mongobrow? I bet you wish Noel had sung all of DM and WTSMG as well yeah?
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 9:56:12 GMT -5
 I am rating Liam, Andy and Gem based on their output from BDI, not on their contributions to Oasis. BDI's collective history. BDI. Everything they have done has been generally poor.  |
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Post by starwillshine on Jul 28, 2011 10:01:39 GMT -5
So every single song they have done including b-sides and covers has been poor? Including the most Oasis-esque songs ie Four letter word and Three ring circus? Strange. I am not saying that everything they have done has been brilliant but don't get how a Oasis fan like yourself doesn't like the 'familiar' sounds.
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 10:05:37 GMT -5
Noel's songs made Oasis. To have Liam's fucked mediocre, snarling, throaty, froggish vocals on a shit Gem-penned tune is NOT Oasis, and not even a familiar Oasis sound.
Noel's songs with Liam's vocals from 1992 - 2000 is Oasis.
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Post by starwillshine on Jul 28, 2011 10:12:00 GMT -5
I agree every single song apart from Noels after 2000 has been awful! Liam and Gem should have just signed on the brew......
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Post by Leezy on Jul 28, 2011 10:13:04 GMT -5
Don't think its to do with the sound, more to do with the quality of the songwriting. Nothing against Beady Eye, their song ideas themselves are really good, but difference between them and Noel is that Noel knows how to develop and make best use of them ideas, he'll spend a lot more time working on lyrics, structures etc, whereas Beady Eye haven't quite mastered that yet. I'm not saying what they're doing is bad, they've given us an album thats better than the majority of Oasis-era material they wrote. I'm sure their next album will be stronger in terms of songwriting, they'll learn in time how to develop the songs more. The one really good thing I can say about Beady Eye is that they definitely seem to be enjoying what they're doing, their relationships between each other seems quite strong as well.
In answer to the original topic question, Noel's TDOYAM vs Beady Eye's music... Yeah, as a song TDOYAM is stronger than the majority of Beady Eye's album, and I'm sure the best of Noel's tracks are yet to come.
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 10:13:13 GMT -5
So every single song they have done including b-sides and covers has been poor? Including the most Oasis-esque songs ie Four letter word and Three ring circus? Strange. I am not saying that everything they have done has been brilliant but don't get how a Oasis fan like yourself doesn't like the 'familiar' sounds. 'Sons of the Stage' and 'Blue Moon' were alright. But that's what they are. A band who can do a decent job on a handful of covers. Their songs are generally poor and definitely lacking real quality. 'In The Bubble With A Bullet' is their only good song, in my opinion. |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 28, 2011 10:16:28 GMT -5
'In The Bubble With A Bullet' is their only good song, in my opinion. i like that song as well, though i don't like the ending. obviously they should start having Noel fix their songs before releasing them. just kidding, kind of. fuckers!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 10:18:16 GMT -5
I agree every single song apart from Noels after 2000 has been awful! Liam and Gem should have just signed on the brew...... I love Boy With The Blues, Soldier On and Love Like A Bomb from Liam. But basically the rest of the Oasis songs from Liam, Gem and Andy are decent at best, and total shite at worst. |
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 10:19:21 GMT -5
'In The Bubble With A Bullet' is their only good song, in my opinion. i like that song as well, though i don't like the ending. Agreed. So even their best song is still deficient to us.  |
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Post by starwillshine on Jul 28, 2011 10:44:46 GMT -5
What about songbird, Outta time? Even Noel was taken back when he heard Born on a different cloud. With your opinion on Liam's singing, you mean live? or studio?
We all know Noel will blow Beady eye out the water when it comes to songwriting/Structure. Infact he would blow most in the music business just now out the water.
I still believe BDI'S 2nd album will be a lot better than DGSS. They are showing glimpses of class ie ITBWAB, Different vocals etc.
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 28, 2011 10:54:34 GMT -5
What about songbird, Outta time? Even Noel was taken back when he heard Born on a different cloud. With your opinion on Liam's singing, you mean live? or studio? We all know Noel will blow Beady eye out the water when it comes to songwriting/Structure. Infact he would blow most in the music business just now out the water. I still believe BDI'S 2nd album will be a lot better than DGSS. They are showing glimpses of class ie ITBWAB, Different vocals etc. My opinion: Born A Different Cloud is a cool song to just zone out to. Songbird is Liam's finest hour, and I cannot fucking stand I'm Outta Time. As for Noel's songwriting sensibilities, he can't be compared to ANYONE in pop music right now, in my opinion. And I also think BDI's 2nd album will be way better than DGSS...I would be shocked if it wasn't. |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 28, 2011 11:02:26 GMT -5
And I also think BDI's 2nd album will be way better than DGSS...I would be shocked if it wasn't. well it certainly couldn't be much worse.... they wanted to distance themselves as far from Oasis as possible, in every way it seems. Oasis albums went downhill, BDI's will hopefully go uphill. i shouldn't say things like that, it's not a very christian thing to say and i like BDI, well kinda. i just wish theywould take the time to write great songs, they have it in them, i know. good things. |
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 11:30:59 GMT -5
What about songbird, Outta time? Even Noel was taken back when he heard Born on a different cloud. With your opinion on Liam's singing, you mean live? or studio? We all know Noel will blow Beady eye out the water when it comes to songwriting/Structure. Infact he would blow most in the music business just now out the water. I still believe BDI'S 2nd album will be a lot better than DGSS. They are showing glimpses of class ie ITBWAB, Different vocals etc. SB is decent but IOT is one of the weakest tracks on DOYS. BOADC is alright, although it is a poor vocal with questionable production. |
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Post by heathenchemistry02 on Jul 28, 2011 11:32:04 GMT -5
I think it's better than anything on DGSS.
I'm sorry, but it's just the truth for me. Maybe The Beat Goes On is equal? Maybe 1 song is equal, but NOTHING is better
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 11:33:24 GMT -5
And I'd be shocked if there aren't at least 4 or 5 other songs on Noel's new album that are better than TDOYAM. The quality of Noel's album will be superior in every single aspect.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 28, 2011 11:43:10 GMT -5
I would put it on level with the best of BDI (FLW, TR, WOMR) I don't know that I would put any BDI song significantly above it right now. FLW, I might down the road though I think 4 days in that I can safely say I will not be rating any BDI songs above TDOYAM. |
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Post by Bampot on Jul 28, 2011 11:44:11 GMT -5
I would put it on level with the best of BDI (FLW, TR, WOMR) I don't know that I would put any BDI song significantly above it right now. FLW, I might down the road though I think 4 days in that I can safely say I will not be rating any BDI songs above TDOYAM. Correct answer. |
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Post by oasis6 on Jul 28, 2011 12:18:10 GMT -5
I enjoy both very much
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Jul 28, 2011 14:10:50 GMT -5
The problem with these comparisons is this for me: Noel's in such a higher class than LAG that I'd rather just enjoy Beady Eye for what they are, an occasionally tuneful, mostly solid (if wandering) rock 'n' roll band. If I start comparing them to a songwriter who always has and always will be miles ahead of them it just ruins my enjoyment of BDI, which it shouldn't.
Let's just enjoy BDI and enjoy Noel. Comparisons will only hurt ourselves (and BDI, but you know what I mean).
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 28, 2011 14:32:31 GMT -5
i think this is also why i feel how the way i feel about the song. Beady Eye is first and foremost a real rock and roll band. We don't know what Noel'l High Flying Birds album will sound like, though we have heard several songs in some way shape or form. Now, when BTL was released i was very concerned, a lot of people(myself included) were very underwhelmed/disappointed, but most of all, fearful of what DGSS might sound like. thankfully it turned out to be a very good album. I'm sure Noel's album will also be good but if he stays on this route(Idle/Falling Down), i will be very unhappy. Some will love it no doubt, but i will not, im not saying i will dislike it but i wont be overly excited about it either. Canyoupleaseusespacestoseparateparragraphs.It'sreallyannoyingreadingablockoftext. kthanx I think I'm actually starting to like you ;D |
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Post by heathenchemistry02 on Jul 28, 2011 17:26:57 GMT -5
it's going to happen.
Beady Eye is Oasis from 2001 - 2009 without Noel
Noel is the lead guitarist/main songwriter (remember he wrote the first 3 album alone)/part vocalist.
So we're taking the best part of Oasis and comparing him to everything else without him
SO we will get comparisons, so everyone needs to except that.
Noel is going to eat up BDI's first album. Maybe their 2nd album will be better? As it stands it's a good album, but Noel's first single is beyond good.
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