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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jul 26, 2011 4:24:26 GMT -5
Let me see.. FLW, Millionaire, TR, Wigwam, TBGO, TMS.
Recently I came to like DGSS again. Could have been much better if some songs were replaced with others better. TDOYAM is good but in no way a good lead single; I have to wait till the album is released because I usually tend to rely heavily on the position a song is located within the album to judge it.
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Post by BlueJay on Jul 26, 2011 5:05:06 GMT -5
Not one song off DGSS even equals TDOYAM. And Hey, I'm not biased. I like junior Gallagher just as much as elder Gallagher.
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Post by definitivt on Jul 26, 2011 5:19:56 GMT -5
Difficult to compare since no song from DGSS is similar to TDOYAM. However, I prefer at least Morning Son to TDOYAM.
But if the Hong Kong-soundcheck songs is featured on the album, it's blowing all of DGSS far, far away.
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Post by thestellasarecold on Jul 26, 2011 5:31:44 GMT -5
Gotta agree with you here BlueJay. I don't mind DGSS but as time passess it feels more and more like an album that one of the many second fiddle 'Brit Pop' bands would have released in the wake of Oasis' enormous success in 1995/96.
TDOYAM, whilst not an instant classic as many have said, has a certain effortless class and a carefully measured sheen; a cannily melodic touch of class that only Noel Gallagher can provide.
Most of Beady Eye's tracks are compartively 'servicable' but quite obvious homages to a particular era. Yes, BE's songs are well produced and exceptionally well played but not neccessarily conceived by inate creative minds- the 'sha la las' and 'na na nas' and beats going on and wind up dreams and killing for dreams etc. etc.- not bad but hardly world beating stuff. More often than not, Noel is able to evoke an era and a feeling without it being too explicit. His songs always have that extra "something" that is hard to pinpoint.
I feel that Beady Eye's best track is Four Letter Word and that has little in common with Noel's current musical direction.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 26, 2011 5:44:31 GMT -5
Gotta agree with you here BlueJay. I don't mind DGSS but as time passess it feels more and more like an album that one of the many second fiddle 'Brit Pop' bands would have released in the wake of Oasis' enormous success in 1995/96. TDOYAM, whilst not an instant classic as many have said, has a certain effortless class and a carefully measured sheen; a cannily melodic touch of class that only Noel Gallagher can provide. Most of Beady Eye's tracks are compartively 'servicable' but quite obvious homages to a particular era. Yes, BE's songs are well produced and exceptionally well played but not neccessarily conceived by inate creative minds- the 'sha la las' and 'na na nas' and beats going on and wind up dreams and killing for dreams etc. etc.- not bad but hardly world beating stuff. More often than not, Noel is able to evoke an era and a feeling without it being too explicit. His songs always have that extra "something" that is hard to pinpoint. I feel that Beady Eye's best track is Four Letter Word and that has little in common with Noel's current musical direction. thestellasarecold is now my official spokesperson.
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 26, 2011 5:50:51 GMT -5
Gotta agree with you here BlueJay. I don't mind DGSS but as time passess it feels more and more like an album that one of the many second fiddle 'Brit Pop' bands would have released in the wake of Oasis' enormous success in 1995/96. TDOYAM, whilst not an instant classic as many have said, has a certain effortless class and a carefully measured sheen; a cannily melodic touch of class that only Noel Gallagher can provide. Most of Beady Eye's tracks are compartively 'servicable' but quite obvious homages to a particular era. Yes, BE's songs are well produced and exceptionally well played but not neccessarily conceived by inate creative minds- the 'sha la las' and 'na na nas' and beats going on and wind up dreams and killing for dreams etc. etc.- not bad but hardly world beating stuff. More often than not, Noel is able to evoke an era and a feeling without it being too explicit. His songs always have that extra "something" that is hard to pinpoint. I feel that Beady Eye's best track is Four Letter Word and that has little in common with Noel's current musical direction. thestellasarecold is now my official spokesperson. true. except that my favourite beady eye song is the roller. and for me the only one which is better than TDOYAM. but well said
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Post by thestellasarecold on Jul 26, 2011 6:13:52 GMT -5
Gotta agree with you here BlueJay. I don't mind DGSS but as time passess it feels more and more like an album that one of the many second fiddle 'Brit Pop' bands would have released in the wake of Oasis' enormous success in 1995/96. TDOYAM, whilst not an instant classic as many have said, has a certain effortless class and a carefully measured sheen; a cannily melodic touch of class that only Noel Gallagher can provide. Most of Beady Eye's tracks are compartively 'servicable' but quite obvious homages to a particular era. Yes, BE's songs are well produced and exceptionally well played but not neccessarily conceived by inate creative minds- the 'sha la las' and 'na na nas' and beats going on and wind up dreams and killing for dreams etc. etc.- not bad but hardly world beating stuff. More often than not, Noel is able to evoke an era and a feeling without it being too explicit. His songs always have that extra "something" that is hard to pinpoint. I feel that Beady Eye's best track is Four Letter Word and that has little in common with Noel's current musical direction. thestellasarecold is now my official spokesperson. Thanks man- I am happy to stand upon the Let it Bleed soapbox and scream primally. I'm available as a mouth piece on all manner of subjects: the privitization of space travel, the exceptional zest of Paul Newman's mighty fine range of salad dressings, recent computer problems in the Pretty Green dispatch warehouse, the current high price of Australian grown bananas- anything really. My current thesis is titled, "ZZ Top: Are the Beards Still 'Beardy' Enough?" Although I am available to hire for speaking engagements in other states and countries, my minimum accomodation requirement is a Hyatt Penthouse with a panoramic window view overlooking a much lower and lowly Holiday Inn style structure. The Holiday Inn should have a rooftop pool so that I can flick the bird from my window at the frollicking minyons who unlike me, cannot afford top shelf digs. My rider for public speaking services should consist of a range of Paul Newman Salad Dressings and several bunches of overpriced Australian grown bananas.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 26, 2011 6:21:25 GMT -5
thestellasarecold is now my official spokesperson. Thanks man- I am happy to stand upon the Let it Bleed soapbox and scream primally. I'm available as a mouth piece on all manner of subjects: the privitization of space travel, the exceptional zest of Paul Newman's mighty fine range of salad dressings, recent computer problems in the Pretty Green dispatch warehouse, the current high price of Australian grown bananas- anything really. My current thesis is titled, "ZZ Top: Are the Beards Still 'Beardy' Enough?" Although I am available to hire for speaking engagements in other states and countries, my minimum accomodation requirement is a Hyatt Penthouse with a panoramic window view overlooking a much lower and lowly Holiday Inn style structure. The Holiday Inn should have a rooftop pool so that I can flick the bird from my window at the frollicking minyons who unlike me, cannot afford top shelf digs. My rider for public speaking services should consist of a range of Paul Newman Salad Dressings and several bunches of overpriced Australian grown bananas. i. love. you. wow. i'm willing to pay any price for your services. Paul Newman salad dressing, bananas, hookers, doritos, whatever you want. you are awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 7:01:06 GMT -5
It's on par with the best of DGSS imo. Maybe The Roller just shades it because of that last verse after the solo
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Post by Lundblad on Jul 26, 2011 7:02:21 GMT -5
4LW TBGO MLN TR 3RC WW
Are definitely better, in my opinion. But TDOYAM is definitely better than BTL, B&S and FA.
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Post by deasy on Jul 26, 2011 7:05:02 GMT -5
although I love BDI.... the only BDI tune i like more than this is World Outside My Room This
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 26, 2011 7:35:20 GMT -5
I hate this comparing shit.
Beady Eye's record was great - Four Letter Word, The Roller, Bring The Light, Beatles And Stones, Kill For A Dream, Wigwam, The Beat Goes On and The Morning Son along with World Outside My Room, Man Of Misery and In The Bubble With A Bullet all great in their own little way and I enjoy them all and some of these I prefer to The Death Of You And Me.
I'll bet that when the dust settles and at the end of the day both albums will be missing something and what that is is the other Gallagher.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 26, 2011 7:50:21 GMT -5
I'll bet that when the dust settles and at the end of the day both albums will be missing something and what that is is the other Gallagher. true. and it'll be age old debate/topic from now until forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 7:55:52 GMT -5
Just get over it, Liam fanboys.
The Chief has made him and his cronies look like vaginas.
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Post by alwaysnow on Jul 26, 2011 10:22:21 GMT -5
I hate this comparing shit. Beady Eye's record was great - Four Letter Word, The Roller, Bring The Light, Beatles And Stones, Kill For A Dream, Wigwam, The Beat Goes On and The Morning Son along with World Outside My Room, Man Of Misery and In The Bubble With A Bullet all great in their own little way and I enjoy them all and some of these I prefer to The Death Of You And Me. I'll bet that when the dust settles and at the end of the day both albums will be missing something and what that is is the other Gallagher.This is about it.
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Post by supernovadragon on Jul 26, 2011 10:34:53 GMT -5
Right now, proberly because it is fresher and brand new, am rating it above the whole of DGSS... however, that being said, by the time the album comes out, I may not do.
Do think it's a great summer song though
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Jul 26, 2011 10:35:18 GMT -5
Noel's songs won't make you long for Liam's voice. Maybe 1995 Liam's voice, but Noel is a better vocalist all-around as of this moment. Up until DGSS Liam still had more power in his voice even if he was losing range, but that album made it apparent that he can either:
A) sing with grit but with little range or ability to sustain notes (see: Liam live)
B) sing ultra-clean and nasally with a bit of range and ability to sustain notes (see: DGSS)
I like the Beady Eye record, but I love TDOYAM. It's a complete song, the total package.
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Post by supernovadragon on Jul 26, 2011 10:37:08 GMT -5
Gotta agree with you here BlueJay. I don't mind DGSS but as time passess it feels more and more like an album that one of the many second fiddle 'Brit Pop' bands would have released in the wake of Oasis' enormous success in 1995/96. TDOYAM, whilst not an instant classic as many have said, has a certain effortless class and a carefully measured sheen; a cannily melodic touch of class that only Noel Gallagher can provide. Most of Beady Eye's tracks are compartively 'servicable' but quite obvious homages to a particular era. Yes, BE's songs are well produced and exceptionally well played but not neccessarily conceived by inate creative minds- the 'sha la las' and 'na na nas' and beats going on and wind up dreams and killing for dreams etc. etc.- not bad but hardly world beating stuff. More often than not, Noel is able to evoke an era and a feeling without it being too explicit. His songs always have that extra "something" that is hard to pinpoint. I feel that Beady Eye's best track is Four Letter Word and that has little in common with Noel's current musical direction. Absolute BRILLIANT post!! K+
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Post by vito81 on Jul 26, 2011 10:38:34 GMT -5
I'd have it third behind TBGO and Wigwam.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 26, 2011 10:40:36 GMT -5
Noel's songs won't make you long for Liam's voice. Maybe 1995 Liam's voice, but Noel is a better vocalist all-around as of this moment. Up until DGSS Liam still had more power in his voice even if he was losing range, but that album made it apparent that he can either: A) sing with grit but with little range or ability to sustain notes (see: Liam live) B) sing ultra-clean and nasally with a bit of range and ability to sustain notes (see: DGSS) I like the Beady Eye record, but I love TDOYAM. It's a complete song, the total package. yes. good things.
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Post by Leezy on Jul 26, 2011 11:02:20 GMT -5
For me, the reason I liked DGSS wasn't so much that it had that many stand out tracks, it was that the majority of the songs on it worked well together and almost all were fairly good.
Even though I like what Liam & co doing with Beady Eye, I do prefer Noels song more. Its not that its necessarily a better 'song' as an idea, but Noel knows how to develop that idea into something more full and complete than Liam & co do. Noels a fussy fucker that spends years re-working lyrics and structures, whereas I get the feeling Liam Gem n Andy tend to just throw the songs together quicker, and it shows, e.g. Beatles & Stones, I love the vibe and sound of it, its like a bluesy My Generation, but I find the vocal parts at the end ('whats that you say, get out the way') really random and it kills it for me.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 26, 2011 11:07:51 GMT -5
I would put it on level with the best of BDI (FLW, TR, WOMR) I don't know that I would put any BDI song significantly above it right now. FLW, I might down the road though
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Post by futchduck on Jul 26, 2011 11:12:13 GMT -5
DGSS is good @ first listen... then over time it becomes boring and blant and today i can't even listen to a single song.
like most Noel songs they become stronger after each play and for me this is the case for DOYAM aswell.
if anyone saw a retard driving in a van today in .nl blasting out DOYAM singing along as a retard then that was me
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Post by bwilder on Jul 26, 2011 11:17:19 GMT -5
Noel's a better songwriter than anyone in BDI. This song is a better song than anything on DGSS. Love it. The chorus is fantastic. And the lyrics are better than anything on DGSS.
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Post by starwillshine on Jul 26, 2011 11:19:28 GMT -5
The Morning son and Millionaire for me are better. Can't really compare TR & FLW as they are completely different type of songs. Still need to hear what DOYAM will be like live as well. Regarding all the hate for Bring The Light, it is an amazing live song, 1 that has the place bouncing. What more can you ask for?
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