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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2011 7:04:37 GMT -5
Would it be possible to limit who can comment in a thread? Say, no one with less than 250 posts!
Fucking hell.
The song is still quality listening after a number of days off.
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Post by keazu on Jul 28, 2011 7:14:23 GMT -5
That's discriminatory, jerk.
But yeah, the song has done nothing but grow on me, really. Still don't think it's anything amazing, but it is pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2011 7:26:29 GMT -5
That's discriminatory, jerk. This is why I made the comment. The unnecessary use of name calling seems to stem from those who are not as engaged in the community as others.
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Post by martinpaul on Jul 28, 2011 7:35:50 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times yesterday and today still can't remember a single thing about it. Not the tune, not a line. You'll get away with posting that because you have 1,833 post so you're an accepted member of the 'community' Jesus some posters make out like this forum is a cult, someones 1st post or opinion is just as valid as someone else's 500th or 5000th. (Not refering to you at all Tomlivesforever obviously)
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Post by martinpaul on Jul 28, 2011 7:39:05 GMT -5
That's discriminatory, jerk. This is why I made the comment. The unnecessary use of name calling seems to stem from those who are not as engaged in the community as others. The name calling/abuse/bullying call it what you want comes (mostly) from those posters who are established members of the community because they don't like others having an opinion that contradicts theirs. Spending every other waking minute posting about a brass section or a specific lyric doesn't make anyone more relevent or knowledgeable than someone who posts less often
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 28, 2011 7:49:20 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times yesterday and today still can't remember a single thing about it. Not the tune, not a line. You'll get away with posting that because you have 1,833 post so you're an accepted member of the 'community' Jesus some posters make out like this forum is a cult, someones 1st post or opinion is just as valid as someone else's 500th or 5000th. (Not refering to you at all Tomlivesforever obviously) yes, this is a cult, or more so a glorified cult, just like every other club/organization/religion. it's great that you don't like it, i couldn't care less. but you complain like Noel should do what you want him to do or something, or what's expected. i don't know. but it does rub me the wrong way. Noel can do whatever he wants, just like me and just like you. Aloha!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2011 7:51:12 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times yesterday and today still can't remember a single thing about it. Not the tune, not a line. You'll get away with posting that because you have 1,833 post so you're an accepted member of the 'community' Jesus some posters make out like this forum is a cult, someones 1st post or opinion is just as valid as someone else's 500th or 5000th. (Not refering to you at all Tomlivesforever obviously) I think you are missing the point, mate. It's all about the way that Tomlivesforever said his statement. I don't mind comments from anyone (loads of posts or not), but I take exception to reading opinion stated as fact, bullying, name calling, or any other kind of bull speech coming from people who obviously failed their grammar classes in school. Some people appear to take themselves a bit too seriously. Let's have some fun whilst respecting others. Thats all. LetItBleed you're awesome! Cheers!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 28, 2011 7:53:02 GMT -5
You'll get away with posting that because you have 1,833 post so you're an accepted member of the 'community' Jesus some posters make out like this forum is a cult, someones 1st post or opinion is just as valid as someone else's 500th or 5000th. (Not refering to you at all Tomlivesforever obviously) yes, this is a cult, or more so a glorified cult, just like every other club/organization/religion. it's great that you don't like it, i couldn't care less. but you complain like Noel should do what you want him to do or something, or what's expected. i don't know. but it does rub me the wrong way. Noel can whatever he wants, just like me and just like you. Aloha! Our cult needs more blondes.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 28, 2011 7:54:36 GMT -5
yes, this is a cult, or more so a glorified cult, just like every other club/organization/religion. it's great that you don't like it, i couldn't care less. but you complain like Noel should do what you want him to do or something, or what's expected. i don't know. but it does rub me the wrong way. Noel can whatever he wants, just like me and just like you. Aloha! Our cult needs more blondes. fuck. yeah. aloha!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2011 7:54:39 GMT -5
^Agreed!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 28, 2011 12:27:04 GMT -5
Oh you're a real good debater yourself. You are allowed not to like it, you are allowed to like but arguments like "if this was on an Oasis album...." like it's the almighty truth is so fucking useless. If you like it, why? If you don't like it, why? That's the only argument adequate for a discussion about a pop song. I really like the song, love the melody in the chorus and think the brass is a really nice touch which elevates the song into something more than just a Kinksesque tune. I would have liked a bit more brass in the last chorus but that's pretty much the only problem i have with the song. Exactly my point - you haven't discussed it you've abused me because I don't agree with your opinion. I don't like it because it's exactly the same song he was writing 6 odd years ago and if it's taken Noel 6 years to add some brass and different percussion then he is ridiculously lazy. Noel has been banging on for years about wanting to do a solo album, all his crap about RM and STC not suiting an Oasis album is absolute bollocks he has been keeping them for a solo record then releases a song that sounds almost identical to an old Oasis song in TIOBI. Why release a song from a solo album if it is going to sound exactly like an Oasis song from 6 years years ago. Noel split the band up and is the one bleating on about it the others have moved on, don't need him anymore and it is clearly pissing him off because he keeps digging about it. Clearly you haven't been paying attention. His second album is the experimental solo record. He's releasing this first one because he has the tunes that he thinks are good and doesnt want to waste them, in addition to not wanting to shock us (the fan base) with his experimental experiment. All in good time.
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Post by thuperthonic on Jul 28, 2011 13:08:29 GMT -5
It sounds like TIOBI only in a very, very superficial way. Open your ears.
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Post by Unlikely Lad on Jul 28, 2011 14:00:25 GMT -5
It sounds like TIOBI only in a very, very superficial way. Open your ears. Completely agree; people hear Noel's falsetto and inevitably think of TIOBI, even though I think the 2 songs are very different. TDOYAM lacks Idle's stomping feel (stolen from the La's Clean Prophet), and the brass pulls the songs further apart... To be honest I don't think its an incredible song; don't get me wrong, I do like it, but to me the 4 other songs we've already heard are better.. Really, really looking forward to If I had a Gun, that soundcheck snippet just sounds like it could be huge. With the steel guitar added to it, it could really reach incredible heights.
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Post by face on Jul 28, 2011 14:07:53 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times yesterday and today still can't remember a single thing about it. Not the tune, not a line. Yep, same here. It just isn't very catchy. Whereas both If I Had a Gun and Everybody's on the Run have been stuck in my head for weeks. And I've only heard them a few times on crappy cellphone audio.
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Post by alliwantisthetruth on Jul 29, 2011 17:10:43 GMT -5
I've just got back from holiday - heard DOYAM once on monday and its been stuck in my head ever since, I would say on par with the best beady eye stuff, beat goes on, wigwam and four letter word
My only worry is will it chart well? The UK charts are a mess at the moment
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 29, 2011 17:14:47 GMT -5
noel has lost it imo. its a nice song but tiobi is a different class and this one is pretty lame. no hookline, nothing special. utter bullshit after 3 years. BDI>>>>>>>>>>Noel
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Post by oasisnyk on Jul 30, 2011 9:04:51 GMT -5
I know this thread is about first impressions - implying the reaction you had after first listening, but I have given this track a few days to sink in before commenting.
I have been a fan since 94 so pretty much anything the Gallagher's put out is going to be on the top of my list. Like most of you, I was disappointed when Oasis broke up and wondered what would come out of it.
I have also always been more of a Liam fan in terms of vocals but I do appreciate Noel's voice and over time his voice has aged very well. He may not be a natural front man but he writes amazing songs and sounds fantastic live.
So I had high expectations when his solo album was announced (I also did for Beady Eye although I left more room for disappointment since Noel has been the song writer behind the majority of Oasis).
On first listen I thought the song was good - nothing great but a solid first effort. The comparisons to TIOBI are valid, although its more of a second cousin to the song than a direct relative in my opinion. As usually happens, after a few more listens the song has opened up more and I really like it.
If you recall when Beady Eye released BTL there was a sense of disappointment and I think that is happening with some here. Many want to hear more songs like early Oasis or something that doesn't remind them of DBTT or DOYS. I have no doubt there will be tracks that do this on his album and it will put some of you at ease.
I don't think the song is an instant classic but I do think it is very good. I don't consider it any better or worse than what Beady Eye has put out and I am equally excited to hear more music from both groups.
Mostly I am just glad to have Noel back producing new songs, I don't expect anything in particular - just to enjoy the ride, so far so good.
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Post by BEng on Aug 1, 2011 9:51:32 GMT -5
Was on holidays for the past 2 weeks without internet, I missed a LOT so it seems. =) Luckily I managed to download the video through my iPod Touch, and I loved it from the first moment I heard it, and it's still getting better with each listen.
It's a good song, the brass and trumpets make it a really great song. The same goes with the amazing guitar solo that makes TIOBI a great instead of 'only' a good tune.
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Post by Aman on Aug 1, 2011 12:18:05 GMT -5
Heard this last night, disappointing really.
I didn't expect much tbh, judging by most of his tunes that were on the recent Oasis albums (a few expections of course)...but still disappointing either way.
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Post by Aman on Aug 1, 2011 12:19:54 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times yesterday and today still can't remember a single thing about it. Not the tune, not a line. It does give off that same feeling for me, such an uninspiring and forgettable tune. I just knew it would been like that tbh before i played it, still annoying though.
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Post by J.B on Aug 1, 2011 12:24:31 GMT -5
noel has lost it imo. its a nice song but tiobi is a different class and this one is pretty lame. no hookline, nothing special. utter bullshit after 3 years. BDI>>>>>>>>>>Noel Refer to my post on The Beat Goes On chart position thread.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Aug 1, 2011 12:46:27 GMT -5
Inspiring, unforgettable and catchy as fuck.
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Post by bdiplayer on Aug 1, 2011 15:30:58 GMT -5
I honestly expected a brand-new Noel-ly tune to be radically different from Oasis, but clearly it would pass for an Oasis track without Liam and with session brass musos.
It's OK, but it's formulaic and 'heard-it-all-before': preaching to the converted.
I'd have preferred something more 'innovative' or at least in an unexpected direction.....the fact that it sounds like well-established Noel without any real surprizes is probably the biggest surprize.
I've heard it about 10 times now, and to my ears it's proficient and professional, but nowt to write home about.
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Post by deasy on Aug 1, 2011 15:37:55 GMT -5
I honestly expected a brand-new Noel-ly tune to be radically different from Oasis, but clearly it would pass for an Oasis track without Liam and with session brass musos. I'd have preferred something more 'innovative' or at least in an unexpected direction.....the fact that it sounds like well-established Noel without any real surprizes is probably the biggest surprize. That will be coming in The AA album next year. This is his safe "Don't scare the fanbase" album.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 1, 2011 15:40:07 GMT -5
With his comment about not wanting to "scare the kiddies" with the AA tunes yet I really think that one of the reasons that he picked this tune as the first one was because it was the one out of the 4 possible singles that is closest to something Oasis would have done with him on vocals
Certainly he loves it. But it sounds to me like he loves several of the tunes on the album though. I think he thought this would be the easiest transition from Oasis to NG solo before the onset of the saw solo, the wine glasses, the disco tunes
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