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Post by Silence Dogood on Jul 26, 2011 16:39:11 GMT -5
so anyone else caught the "sunshine followed by thunder" line? sneaky sneaky.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 26, 2011 17:08:42 GMT -5
Still loving it.
The more I've listened to it the more it sounds like New Orleans than TIOBI. The TIOBI references really are superficial. The whole Noel-by-numbers thing is lazy and untrue IMO.
I'm looking forward to the rest of the album. Especially since the MOJO magazine interview makes it clear that there is a wider variety of tunes. This is a very good song...everyone knows it. Just not to everyones taste. (Everyone that dislikes it seems to be less than a massive fan of TIOBI so it's obviously musical tastes)
The rest of the album apparently doesn't have the same feel. So I don't think anyone need worry as of yet.
Also...Noel hit out against people making a point to change their styles. Noel was always a believer that you follow the inspiration. If this is what inspires him...I am happy with it. Sorry that everyone else isn't.
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Post by ctmazin on Jul 26, 2011 17:41:38 GMT -5
Just got home from work after 15-16 hours away from TDOYAM and have listened to it a few more times.
Like all great Noel tunes, this one is getting better and better with each listen imho. I think when it is all said and done, it will be considered one of his best post-MG tunes. It's got all sorts of neat touches-the strings at the beginning are great and the brass solo is cool.
But the key is that like all great Oasis tunes, it's anthemic. I love that moment when the verse segues directly into the chorus in the same sentence-that's when I feel the song in my gut (that and when Noel repeats the chorus at the very end with different lyrics).
Lyrically, it starts poorly, but gets much better. The first four lines are weak, but the rest are really good. Really, were you expecting a Noel Gallagher song without a few bum lyrics?
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Post by Riverman on Jul 26, 2011 17:57:32 GMT -5
it's just classic Noel fucking Gallagher. His melodies are second to none I mean who even thinks of these melodies? They just soar above the chords. This is what i wanted from Noel. It's a bit odd, its kinda groovin, kinda western, kinda jazzy, and that chorus pop stomp A soaring melody. It's sgt pepper mixed with Magical Mystery Tour but its so Noel. Its similar to TIOBI but its got its own twist. It's better than anything Beady Eye has put out. A summer day dream. This
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Post by cloudburster on Jul 26, 2011 18:26:08 GMT -5
Is it wrong that I get shivers listening to a kinda goofy, silly track? The "Let's run away together you and me, forever we'd be free, free to spend our whole lives runnin', from the people who will be the death of you and me" gets me every time I don't know why. I'm a not a "fanboy" btw just cause I fucking love this song. Noel is such a great songwriter and he is absolutely bang on with the idea of song he was going for. A fun, upbeat single with lyrics that actually mean something. Also love the bit where he goes "I can feel the storm clouds, coming" and it goes into a new 'version' of the chorus. Noel getting 'lazy'? 'Uncreative'? Umm most of the time in Oasis, even in 1994, he just repeated the 1st verse twice, he isn't getting lazy man. Can tell he is really passionate about these songs and the album is going to be effing mega
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Post by (The One And Only)Jesus Christ on Jul 26, 2011 19:18:31 GMT -5
You all should become fanboys of Christ.
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Post by manualex on Jul 26, 2011 19:25:57 GMT -5
Whenever you came back alive J.C.
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Post by sonlc on Jul 26, 2011 19:57:50 GMT -5
I don't think it's very good. It's not bad but after 7 or 8 listens (which I've only done because it's Noel), I've decided that I have no need to hear it again really. The chorus sucks and it really is a poor version TIOBI. Give that song a listen right after DOYAM and you'll see how much better TIOBI really is.
Hoping that his other tunes are better because this sounds like an average post SOTSOG B Side.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 26, 2011 20:23:36 GMT -5
i've listened to TDOYAM about 100 times and've officially overdosed on it but i still like it.
8/10
God bless Noel Gallagher.
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Post by stanncie on Jul 26, 2011 23:24:28 GMT -5
You all should become fanboys of Christ. Huge Fan JC! As far as the song it's okaish. Not great but decent enough. Unlike many people here the melody has not stuck to me. I listened to it yesterday about 5 times and I can't remember the chorus at all. I hope the rest of the album is better or I won't make the effort to travel to see him on tour. I'm not interested in hearing oasis songs as I've been to countless concerts. I'm hopeful that the rest of the album has songs that appeal to my tastes more so I can justify going out of my way to see him. I went to see beady eye and it was great not because the songs are anything spectacular just decent like this one but the whole experience was cool since it was a small venue with true fans. I don't know if it will be the same with just Noel and some backing musicians. We shall see though
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Post by noelliamnoel on Jul 26, 2011 23:33:41 GMT -5
A amazing accomplishment...the song feels happy, sad, jazzy, and psychedelic all at the same time!
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Post by martinpaul on Jul 27, 2011 3:29:23 GMT -5
Its funny that people can't debate on this forum, if you criticise Noel or the song then posters routinely jump on you and invite you to use other Oasis forums or get abusive and argue.
Posters quoting the odd lyric or saying it isn't like TIOBI because it sounds like something from New Orleans as proof its 'amazing' doesn't hold more sway than a poster explaining why he/she doesn't like it.
If this was on an Oasis album it would have been panned and resigned to the 'should have been a b side bin'
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Post by eminorseventh on Jul 27, 2011 4:40:00 GMT -5
I LOVE the song. It's an 8.5/10 for me. The one thing Noel does best (and better than most) is write a great melody. It's not the lyrics that drew me to Oasis, or virtuosic guitar playing. It was the powerful choruses on The Masterplan, and DLBIA. Now, it's true that Liam had a once in a generation voice, but it always came back to those fantastic melodies, and this song just does it for me.
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Post by pwntinator on Jul 27, 2011 4:48:39 GMT -5
I can't understand all the bashing. This song is simply great and also a very good choice as first single. Very radio friendly. All my friends that are not into Oasis at all thinks this song is great. 750 000+ views on YouTube pretty much say'n em all?
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Post by Tom on Jul 27, 2011 5:57:14 GMT -5
Its funny that people can't debate on this forum, if you criticise Noel or the song then posters routinely jump on you and invite you to use other Oasis forums or get abusive and argue. Posters quoting the odd lyric or saying it isn't like TIOBI because it sounds like something from New Orleans as proof its 'amazing' doesn't hold more sway than a poster explaining why he/she doesn't like it. If this was on an Oasis album it would have been panned and resigned to the 'should have been a b side bin' Oh you're a real good debater yourself. You are allowed not to like it, you are allowed to like but arguments like "if this was on an Oasis album...." like it's the almighty truth is so fucking useless. If you like it, why? If you don't like it, why? That's the only argument adequate for a discussion about a pop song. I really like the song, love the melody in the chorus and think the brass is a really nice touch which elevates the song into something more than just a Kinksesque tune. I would have liked a bit more brass in the last chorus but that's pretty much the only problem i have with the song.
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Post by Swarfiga on Jul 27, 2011 6:03:37 GMT -5
It's a good song. Nothing more. And I'm a big fan of The Importance Of Being Idle.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 27, 2011 12:12:27 GMT -5
But why? We've got hundreds of those types of songs with Oasis (and now Beady Eye are doing the same thing). You'd just want the same from Noel aswell? Now that would be boring. Noel is a 44 year old man, looking for a bit more sophistication and grandness to his tunes - just listen to the choirs and strings on Everybody's On The Run. That sounds mindblowing - I'd be disappointed if he just took the same Beady Eye formula with just guitars. I mean what is the point? Wasn't it Noel who criticized bands that changed their sound and what was obviously working(for them) and had got them the fans the had? i think he singled out The Killers in one interview... well, i don't know. There are other artists out there who are doing this type of music, maybe they don't have as high a profile as Noel but they exist and if i was interested in that genre or sub-genre of music i would look into finding it. I have no desire for that style of music so ... Im not saying this is bad, i never said i thought TDOYAM was a bad song because it isn't. I just said i didn't think it was all that good even thought i did like it. I actually think Noel's point was that artists shouldn't change their sound just for the sake of it or because they feel pressured to do so from the industry. I think Noel would be fine with artists (like himself) altering the sound as long as that was the true intention of the artist with no over riding principles dictating it to be done. But whatever.
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Post by manualex on Jul 27, 2011 12:27:31 GMT -5
If this was on an Oasis album it would have been panned and resigned to the 'should have been a b side bin' Right because it would be a curveball, but then you have the image of 'Oasis' behind it and this is the debut single from the guy who wrote the songs of that band. You can recall elements from Going Nowhere, Underneath The Sky and Importance of Being Idle while having a whole different feel in it, so it could have been released under Oasis moniker but that is fiction because there's no Oasis and this is the debut of Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 14:28:28 GMT -5
must be on 30th listen now, still love it
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Post by globe on Jul 27, 2011 15:44:49 GMT -5
Crap lyrics, was kind of hoping that after all his time off, Noel might be inspired enough not to use the word "soul" in any of these new songs.
Still a good wee tune though, love the brass bit.
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Post by martinpaul on Jul 28, 2011 5:34:16 GMT -5
Its funny that people can't debate on this forum, if you criticise Noel or the song then posters routinely jump on you and invite you to use other Oasis forums or get abusive and argue. Posters quoting the odd lyric or saying it isn't like TIOBI because it sounds like something from New Orleans as proof its 'amazing' doesn't hold more sway than a poster explaining why he/she doesn't like it. If this was on an Oasis album it would have been panned and resigned to the 'should have been a b side bin' Oh you're a real good debater yourself. You are allowed not to like it, you are allowed to like but arguments like "if this was on an Oasis album...." like it's the almighty truth is so fucking useless. If you like it, why? If you don't like it, why? That's the only argument adequate for a discussion about a pop song. I really like the song, love the melody in the chorus and think the brass is a really nice touch which elevates the song into something more than just a Kinksesque tune. I would have liked a bit more brass in the last chorus but that's pretty much the only problem i have with the song. Exactly my point - you haven't discussed it you've abused me because I don't agree with your opinion. I don't like it because it's exactly the same song he was writing 6 odd years ago and if it's taken Noel 6 years to add some brass and different percussion then he is ridiculously lazy. Noel has been banging on for years about wanting to do a solo album, all his crap about RM and STC not suiting an Oasis album is absolute bollocks he has been keeping them for a solo record then releases a song that sounds almost identical to an old Oasis song in TIOBI. Why release a song from a solo album if it is going to sound exactly like an Oasis song from 6 years years ago. Noel split the band up and is the one bleating on about it the others have moved on, don't need him anymore and it is clearly pissing him off because he keeps digging about it.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 28, 2011 5:45:43 GMT -5
Oh you're a real good debater yourself. You are allowed not to like it, you are allowed to like but arguments like "if this was on an Oasis album...." like it's the almighty truth is so fucking useless. If you like it, why? If you don't like it, why? That's the only argument adequate for a discussion about a pop song. I really like the song, love the melody in the chorus and think the brass is a really nice touch which elevates the song into something more than just a Kinksesque tune. I would have liked a bit more brass in the last chorus but that's pretty much the only problem i have with the song. Exactly my point - you haven't discussed it you've abused me because I don't agree with your opinion. I don't like it because it's exactly the same song he was writing 6 odd years ago and if it's taken Noel 6 years to add some brass and different percussion then he is ridiculously lazy. Noel has been banging on for years about wanting to do a solo album, all his crap about RM and STC not suiting an Oasis album is absolute bollocks he has been keeping them for a solo record then releases a song that sounds almost identical to an old Oasis song in TIOBI. Why release a song from a solo album if it is going to sound exactly like an Oasis song from 6 years years ago. Noel split the band up and is the one bleating on about it the others have moved on, don't need him anymore and it is clearly pissing him off because he keeps digging about it. Noel can do whatever the fuck he wants, just like me. and you can't stop us. Aloha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by BlueJay on Jul 28, 2011 5:55:22 GMT -5
Just keeps getting better. It makes me feel the same way I felt when I heard Half the World Away or Talk Tonight or The Importnace of Being Idle for the first time. It just takes me to that place and I strangely feel nostalgic about it already I've listened to it that many times.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 28, 2011 6:53:00 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times yesterday and today still can't remember a single thing about it. Not the tune, not a line.
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Post by ctmazin on Jul 28, 2011 6:58:32 GMT -5
You must have a really poor memory, then. ;D
The thing that is annoying me about this track is that I can't get the chorus out of my head.
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