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Post by songbirdsally on Jul 19, 2011 10:26:45 GMT -5
Just finished reading the NME interview and I was thinking: Noes doesn't sound too enthousiastic about his solo carreer  It's almost like 'I'm doing this cause everyone expects me to do it and I've got nothing else to do but I don't wanna do it really..'  Thoughts? Also: to the person who linked the pdf, where did you get the link from? Would love to have it every week  |
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Post by paranoidandroid on Jul 19, 2011 10:29:09 GMT -5
Well i must admit i too thought this from his press conference....he didnt seem very excited.
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Post by bonkers on Jul 19, 2011 10:30:29 GMT -5
maybe he has realised that every time a oasis alboom came out he said it was the best thing since sliced bread and they never were, and maybe with beady eye tanking a bit he doesn't want to talk it up
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Post by mezmerised on Jul 19, 2011 10:43:04 GMT -5
Yeah it's a bit weird. I mean he was the one who always wanted the 5 years off from Oasis to do a solo album and now he seems not that thrilled about it finally happening.
Maybe he never really wanted to tour with it (just release those songs that never really worked on Oasis albums) and now he has to. Or maybe he's just strategically trying to keep expectations low for once instead o the usual bigging it up.
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Post by deasy on Jul 19, 2011 10:48:47 GMT -5
He was excited about doing a solo album. Having a solo career scares him though. And I don't blame him, it must be hard becoming a solo artist after 18 years of being in a band where he wasn't even the front man. Not many non-frontmen embark on successful solo careers.
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Jul 19, 2011 11:07:41 GMT -5
True deasy. But Noel is more a frontman than most "non-frontmen"...if that makes sense. He has performed lots of songs alone with Oasis, and he's been more in the media than most frontmen over the past 20 years. I think Noel will do well. He's done this before, unlike a lot of other new solo-artists. I think he just lower the excpectations to lower the pressure on himself. This album will be mega, I know it!  |
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Post by Rifles on Jul 19, 2011 11:10:27 GMT -5
Yeah, he's made it pretty clear recently and over the years that he only ever wanted to release a solo album in between Oasis albums. He never wanted to fully commit to a solo career. I think he just wanted to spread his wings a bit musically and then get back to what he's comfortable with, but now he's unsure and doesn't seem to like the spotlight 100% on him. Liam grabbed a lot of attention but now there's no distractions...just Noel and his high flying birds.
Sounds like Beady Eye's lack of Oasis-esque reception has give him a wake up call and he's being more realistic about his goals.
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Post by matt on Jul 19, 2011 11:51:36 GMT -5
He seems worried about Beady Eye's reception, thinking his singles will chart the same. I don't think he should worry - these are Noel Gallagher written tunes at the end of the day. He appeals more to the music lover than Beady Eye. And three of the most radio friendly Oasis songs (Don't Look Back In Anger, Little By Little, Importance of Being Idle) are sung by him.
He'll do better than Beady Eye for sure. As for the the interview it's quite poor, I really wish there wasn't so much emphasis on the split and Liam. Interesting to see songs like Millionaire were meant to be on DOYS, but look forward and talk about his solo album! And no mention of the Amorphous Androgynous album either!
He might eventually love having a solo career though and only saw Viva Hate as more of a stop gap before they reunited, not being especially keen on a it. Morrissey never wanted The Smiths to split up and initially, he wanted somebody to replace Johnny Marr (!) but look at him now - he loves being solo.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 19, 2011 12:38:49 GMT -5
Liam and co. seemed to be quite in for starting small and growing. They didn't really have significant media push for singles or even the album. But maybe I just stopped paying attention. They seemed to be more promoting the band as opposed to promoting a specific single or album. I honestly don't think they were that bothered about charting.
Noel seems to place a bit more stock in them...if not for quality @ least an indication of success. But then every album he has ever penned has been #1 and every single he has penned in 15 years has been top 10, so even with the apparent modesty you can imagine him thinking that it'll be different for him. I'm hoping he'll at least make the point to not to do the stuff like having the digital sales and vinyl sales count on separate weeks.
One of DGSS's biggest flaws is the lack of big singles. Noel probably won't have that problem. He wrote all the biggest singles for Oasis.
Anyone counting Noel out as being doomed to the same fate as BDI is forgetting that A) Noel Gallagher is a still an immediately recognisable brand, not as big as Oasis but bigger than Beady Eye, and B) Noel is capable of writing and recognizing a stand out single or something that is radio friendly.
I think he was a lot more deliberate in building his album. I think he knows what the singles are going to be.
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 19, 2011 12:56:19 GMT -5
Yeah, it was weird reading that because it's the first time I've seen Noel be even a little bit humble in an interview.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 19, 2011 14:03:38 GMT -5
Fuck that, the biggest news is that he now owns a computer.
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Post by putthisin ® on Jul 19, 2011 14:07:06 GMT -5
What he really wanted to do was the AA album. High Flying Birds is just the "safe" one that his management begged him to do. Probably just an attempt of not alienating Oasis fans
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 19, 2011 14:28:39 GMT -5
What he really wanted to do was the AA album. High Flying Birds is just the "safe" one that his management begged him to do. Probably just an attempt of not alienating Oasis fans I was thinking about this the other day, i wonder if Noel quickly put the first one together around the time we were hearing rumours that Marcus Russell and co were worried about what he was doing at that particular time was not commercial at all, cant remember who we got the info from (jamie maybe?) Anyway, does anyone think that he originally intended on doing the AA album and not putting 2 out? And that as soon as his management started putting pressure on he used as many of the more commmercial - demos, soundcheck and a few new songs together to make an album to please the masses? I hope it isnt the case, but either way i still believe both albums will be brilliant, got alot of faith in him. |
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Post by gaspanic23 on Jul 19, 2011 14:28:51 GMT -5
Fuck that, the biggest news is that he now owns a computer. Was just about to comment on that |
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Post by The Morning Son on Jul 19, 2011 14:55:11 GMT -5
What he really wanted to do was the AA album. High Flying Birds is just the "safe" one that his management begged him to do. Probably just an attempt of not alienating Oasis fans Anyway, does anyone think that he originally intended on doing the AA album and not putting 2 out? And that as soon as his management started putting pressure on he used as many of the more commmercial - demos, soundcheck and a few new songs together to make an album to please the masses? At this moment in time I think its exactly what happened. I think his initial plan was to have a year off from Oasis and do an experimental album that he could put out as his own work that he wouldn't have to tour and then be back with the band after some time off and make more Oasis records that would chart well and could play on mass to millions again with a band. Obviously it didn't go to plan so he put together this second record, hence why a third of the album and the majority of b-sides (i am presuming) will have been mentioned before with Oasis. This is probably half the reason he isn't as enthusiastic as he didn't plan on touring as a solo artist or making 4 or 5 albums in a solo career. May be the wrong end of the stick but from the way he is talking, it makes me think that this is the case, I'm sure they will both be great though. |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 19, 2011 14:58:51 GMT -5
Liam and co. seemed to be quite in for starting small and growing. They didn't really have significant media push for singles or even the album. But maybe I just stopped paying attention. They seemed to be more promoting the band as opposed to promoting a specific single or album. I honestly don't think they were that bothered about charting. Noel seems to place a bit more stock in them...if not for quality @ least an indication of success. But then every album he has ever penned has been #1 and every single he has penned in 15 years has been top 10, so even with the apparent modesty you can imagine him thinking that it'll be different for him. I'm hoping he'll at least make the point to not to do the stuff like having the digital sales and vinyl sales count on separate weeks. One of DGSS's biggest flaws is the lack of big singles. Noel probably won't have that problem. He wrote all the biggest singles for Oasis. Anyone counting Noel out as being doomed to the same fate as BDI is forgetting that A) Noel Gallagher is a still an immediately recognisable brand, not as big as Oasis but bigger than Beady Eye, and B) Noel is capable of writing and recognizing a stand out single or something that is radio friendly. I think he was a lot more deliberate in building his album. I think he knows what the singles are going to be. Completely agree. Beady Eye didn't get a Top 10 song because The Roller wasn't radio friendly enough, they didn't get it because they had a pretty bad release for it. They had a staggered release for it, with the first initial release being a limited edition vinyl. If they had one release date for all the formats, then The Roller would have been very close to being a Top 10 hit. I expect Noel to get 1 hit. Mainly because I don't think he'll do the staggered release date, plus I believe that the interest will definitely be there. I don't know about the singles after the first, but I do expect his debut single to have a chart position. Probably not Top 5, but close to the Top 10 imo. |
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Post by gdforever on Jul 19, 2011 15:12:24 GMT -5
I don't think that is true. That he only made this because the management wanted him to, i mean.
In the press conference he said that he started recording the HFB album in February 2010...the night of the Brit Awards. And he seemed to imply that the AA album happened after that.
He had first heard of the AA around the time of DOYS so chances are that wasn't the album that he had wanted to make as a solo album. I think that the reason that all those soundchecks are on the album is because they were already earmarked for the solo record and so he was working on them during the tour.
And RM and STC had been considered for the last couple Oasis album so it makes sense he would have considered them for the solo album...particularly since Oasis had split and this is the only way they'll ever be released now. We'll never know if he would have kept either of them for Liam to sing, as was originally intended, if Oasis hadn't split.
I think he is just nervous because it's beginning to sink in how difficult getting this project off the ground might be. Particularly since he has been watching his brother's band charting so poorly compared to Oasis the past 6 months.
As he said, this is the first time he doesn't know what is going to happen for the first time since putting out DM. That's bound to be a nervewracking prospect.
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Post by The Morning Son on Jul 19, 2011 15:17:04 GMT -5
Beady Eye didn't get a Top 10 song because The Roller wasn't radio friendly enough, they didn't get it because they had a pretty bad release for it. They had a staggered release for it, with the first initial release being a limited edition vinyl. If they had one release date for all the formats, then The Roller would have been very close to being a Top 10 hit. I expect Noel to get 1 hit. Mainly because I don't think he'll do the staggered release date, plus I believe that the interest will definitely be there. I don't know about the singles after the first, but I do expect his debut single to have a chart position. Probably not Top 5, but close to the Top 10 imo. The Roller release really annoyed me, it had the potential but it just turned out to be wasted. Noel has the benefit of seeing Beady Eye before him so he'll learn from their mistakes. I'm confident his first single will chart Top 15, maybe even Top 10 and his album will break the Top 2. After that who knows, the market is poor for rock at the minute so his other singles may struggle to make Top 30 or even Top 40. Will all depend on the strength of his b-sides. |
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Post by Rifles on Jul 19, 2011 18:08:51 GMT -5
I don't think that is true. That he only made this because the management wanted him to, i mean. In the press conference he said that he started recording the HFB album in February 2010...the night of the Brit Awards. And he seemed to imply that the AA album happened after that. Let's also not forget that he's mentioned RM and STC for the last few years and even during the DOYS tour he mentioned releasing them on a solo album since they'd been knocking around for so long. I think the AA stuff is obviously fresher so he's probably more excited about that. It's also totally different, whereas HFB seems to be a little more familiar. You're bound to be looking forward to something new and fresh more than something you're used to. Maybe the rumors of management being unhappy etc were just them voicing their concerns that the AA album probably won't be a commercial success, thus they'll focus most of their energy on HFB? I don't fucking know...all this speculation is gonna make my head explode. |
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Post by rupertg on Jul 19, 2011 18:35:11 GMT -5
He's been threatening to release a solo album since after SOTSOG. Seems like he was purposely stockpiling songs too. Plus having that acoustic tour with Gem as 'Noel Gallagher' instead of 'Oasis'. Noel will do just fine. I think it's a win win situation for everybody. Plus a great thing with Beady Eye I'm sure it made Noel to put some music out relatively quick otherwise we would prob have to wait til 2012 or 2013 to hear his music.
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