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Post by revol on Jul 19, 2011 1:19:44 GMT -5
I think that "Forgive me if I spoke too soon..." part is not a chorus, but a bridge before or after the actual one. It just feels like that.
Anyway, good job, but I'm surprised how cheesy are the MIDI instruments on a 500$ software. Have you ever tried Sonar X1?
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Post by spaneli on Jul 19, 2011 1:49:16 GMT -5
I think that "Forgive me if I spoke too soon..." part is not a chorus, but a bridge before or after the actual one. It just feels like that. Anyway, good job, but I'm surprised how cheesy are the MIDI instruments on a 500$ software. Have you ever tried Sonar X1? No, that's the chorus. The melody makes that the chorus. It doesn't work any other way. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 19, 2011 2:07:17 GMT -5
wow, great stuff man. Hope it turns out a bit like this. Wel done, really impressed.
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Post by revol on Jul 19, 2011 3:05:01 GMT -5
I think that "Forgive me if I spoke too soon..." part is not a chorus, but a bridge before or after the actual one. It just feels like that. Anyway, good job, but I'm surprised how cheesy are the MIDI instruments on a 500$ software. Have you ever tried Sonar X1? No, that's the chorus. The melody makes that the chorus. It doesn't work any other way. What's that supposed to mean? Coz, I don't really get your point. Imagine you've never heard DLBIA and somebody played you an unfinished bit from a soundcheck, the "So I'll start a revolution from my bed" part would also sound like the chorus to you. We've heard only a rough sketch of "If I had a gun" so I would avoid definite statements, Mr. Lord Of The Songs Structure. |
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 19, 2011 3:07:30 GMT -5
i can't wait for the final version. i love it. thank you !
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Jul 19, 2011 3:08:35 GMT -5
Beatiful arrangements, it surely sounds like classic Oasis!!
It could be a new classic, it could be epic!!
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Post by spaneli on Jul 19, 2011 4:01:04 GMT -5
No, that's the chorus. The melody makes that the chorus. It doesn't work any other way. What's that supposed to mean? Coz, I don't really get your point. Imagine you've never heard DLBIA and somebody played you an unfinished bit from a soundcheck, the "So I'll start a revolution from my bed" part would also sound like the chorus to you. We've heard only a rough sketch of "If I had a gun" so I would avoid definite statements, Mr. Lord Of The Songs Structure. I'm not going to argue. But that wouldn't happen with Noel. Noel thinks how the melody first, then the lyrics. It's extremely rare for Noel to be missing a whole section of a song. He may be missing a section of lyrics (like DLBIA soundcheck), but the melody is usually there. The structuring of the melody determines what the chorus, verse, bridge are. Not the lyrics. This is especially the case with Noel. Noel's melodies are usually complete. If you look at the melody, you can usually spot the different sections of a song. The melody that's there, is basically the melody that you have. I doubt if it will change that much. The lyrics will change, but I'd be surprised if the melody changed, or if the melody is incomplete. This is all in my opinion of course. Hate how on this forum you have to state "imo" at the end of every statement, or someone automatically thinks that you're being some kind of know it all. |
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Post by kenneth on Jul 19, 2011 4:31:44 GMT -5
Really shows the potential in this fantastic song!! Really good work mate  I'd be pleasantly surprised if he has a orchestra on If I Had A Gun. Realisticly, I hope the Chrouch End Choir and The Wired Strings will feauture on the track. And yes, this could be the best track Noel has written in ages!! |
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Post by ksnoek on Jul 19, 2011 4:34:13 GMT -5
Second that! Cheers, guys! I really appreciate your generous feedback. I'll try 'Everybody's on the run as well.' But I have to say: after the first go I had at it, it sounded a bit cheesy. I guess Orchestra is a bit much on this one. I'll try out somm other instruments and get back to you. As the sun is shining today, it might take a while... |
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Post by revol on Jul 19, 2011 4:36:55 GMT -5
What's that supposed to mean? Coz, I don't really get your point. Imagine you've never heard DLBIA and somebody played you an unfinished bit from a soundcheck, the "So I'll start a revolution from my bed" part would also sound like the chorus to you. We've heard only a rough sketch of "If I had a gun" so I would avoid definite statements, Mr. Lord Of The Songs Structure. I'm not going to argue. But that wouldn't happen with Noel. Noel thinks how the melody first, then the lyrics. It's extremely rare for Noel to be missing a whole section of a song. He may be missing a section of lyrics (like DLBIA soundcheck), but the melody is usually there. The structuring of the melody determines what the chorus, verse, bridge are. Not the lyrics. This is especially the case with Noel. Noel's melodies are usually complete. If you look at the melody, you can usually spot the different sections of a song. The melody that's there, is basically the melody that you have. I doubt if it will change that much. The lyrics will change, but I'd be surprised if the melody changed, or if the melody is incomplete. I agree with you, but it's not Noel who is missing a whole section of the song, it's us. We really don't know which part he played at the soundcheck...We'll come back to this coversation in October  Anyway, it has the potential to be a classic. |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 19, 2011 4:58:07 GMT -5
What's the point of soundchecking a melodically incomplete song? That seems extremely random. Like I said, I'll be surprised if that song has changed drastically in terms of the melodic structuring from the soundcheck to the album.
But like you said, we'll find out in October.
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Post by vito81 on Jul 19, 2011 5:19:36 GMT -5
Man, what a great job, love it , K+
It reminds me SOTSOG era, I don't know why.
Try to put some strings on Record Machine...
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Post by revol on Jul 19, 2011 5:37:18 GMT -5
What's the point of soundchecking a melodically incomplete song? That seems extremely random. Like I said, I'll be surprised if that song has changed drastically in terms of the melodic structuring from the soundcheck to the album. But like you said, we'll find out in October. That's not what I mean. Probably Noel did play the whole song, the point is that we've heard "only" 1 minute and 58 seconds of it. And I bet that it's not even half of it. You assumed that the most "melodic" part is the chorus - alright, it may be, but you just don't know, me neither and that's why I used phrases such as "I think". |
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Post by Noel_ on Jul 19, 2011 5:41:34 GMT -5
Sounds great!!! Thanks!
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Post by Level 03 on Jul 19, 2011 6:26:11 GMT -5
Imagine the song like this in the RHA with the orchestra. Could be fuking heaven.
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Post by revol on Jul 19, 2011 6:51:17 GMT -5
Imagine the song like this in the RHA with the orchestra. Could be fuking heaven. You mean RAH? |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 19, 2011 7:13:15 GMT -5
What's the point of soundchecking a melodically incomplete song? That seems extremely random. Like I said, I'll be surprised if that song has changed drastically in terms of the melodic structuring from the soundcheck to the album. But like you said, we'll find out in October. That's not what I mean. Probably Noel did play the whole song, the point is that we've heard "only" 1 minute and 58 seconds of it. And I bet that it's not even half of it. You assumed that the most "melodic" part is the chorus - alright, it may be, but you just don't know, me neither and that's why I used phrases such as "I think". You're assuming that it's more than 1:58.  It probably has become longer, but that may have been done by just adding verses, rather than whole section of unknown melody. All I can recommend is learning how to play the song, and playing it to yourself on guitar. Anyways I'm done debating it. This guy does a pretty good cover of it: |
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Jul 19, 2011 7:15:43 GMT -5
That's not what I mean. Probably Noel did play the whole song, the point is that we've heard "only" 1 minute and 58 seconds of it. And I bet that it's not even half of it. You assumed that the most "melodic" part is the chorus - alright, it may be, but you just don't know, me neither and that's why I used phrases such as "I think". You're assuming that it's more than 1:58. It probably has become longer, but that may have been done by just adding verses, rather than whole section of unknown melody. All I can recommend is learning how to play the song, and playing it to yourself on guitar. Anyways I'm done debating it. This guy does a pretty good cover of it: This guy is a legend for (very) amateur players like me |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 19, 2011 7:26:45 GMT -5
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jul 19, 2011 7:45:27 GMT -5
I really hope it does have strings after listening to the chorus
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Post by masterplan2011 on Jul 19, 2011 7:57:59 GMT -5
That's a great version, this song will be emotional
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 8:08:24 GMT -5
very well done, nice one!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2011 11:21:20 GMT -5
This was great. Added so much depth to it. Cheers
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 19, 2011 12:27:06 GMT -5
So when I heard the first minute or so of this soundcloud remix you did, ksnoek, I actually was a bit bored by it, felt it was a little cheesy, and was hoping that Noel made the album version better.
BUT then the strings came in and the "Forgive me if I spoke too soon" part started, and THAT's when I realized I was listening to something really beautiful. Excellent job!!
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Post by Praetor on Jul 19, 2011 12:27:15 GMT -5
Very well done.
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