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Post by davidjay on Aug 1, 2011 16:15:28 GMT -5
What about the 2009 vinyl version of DBTT, does it sounds better than the overly loudness CD version? Yes, a lot better to my ears - wish they'd mastered the CD like that to begin with! The improved dynamics really help the album. Turn up the Sun, The Importance of Being Idle, and Guess God Thinks I'm Abel are some of the most improved. The info on the following page shows the improved dynamics of the DBTT vinyl compared to the CD: dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=10377And here's a direct link to the other Oasis listings: dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=Oasis&sort=year&order=desc |
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 1, 2011 17:08:10 GMT -5
^^ At least the vinyl version sounds great. DBTT need desperately some remastering edition, it's the Oasis album which suffers the most from loudness, however SOTSOG sounds great.
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Post by forestfan on Aug 1, 2011 17:36:52 GMT -5
so what are some definitive things weve recognised on the be here now mix?
ive noticed the improvement in the drums on magic pie and the seperation of instruments on all around the world( which feels more like 'whatever' than the over-blown thing it sounds like on CD)
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Post by manualex on Aug 1, 2011 20:49:07 GMT -5
There are strings on Magic Pie!!!
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Post by idledreamer on Aug 2, 2011 8:54:17 GMT -5
reading these posts i can't help but imagine how great a remastered box set with all the oasis studio albums would be.... (similar to the one the did for the beatles)
i know the demand wouldn't be nearly as high as the beatles, (especially on a world-wide scale), but do you folks gather it may be possible? i'm talking 10, 15, maybe even 20 years down the road...
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Post by davidjay on Aug 2, 2011 12:27:07 GMT -5
reading these posts i can't help but imagine how great a remastered box set with all the oasis studio albums would be.... (similar to the one the did for the beatles) i know the demand wouldn't be nearly as high as the beatles, (especially on a world-wide scale), but do you folks gather it may be possible? i'm talking 10, 15, maybe even 20 years down the road... I can imagine a box set happening some way down the line - something like the Oasis equivalent of the Neil Young Archives collection would be amazing. Maybe a box containing a Blu-ray edition of each album with extensive extras - remastered album, demos, alt mixes, music videos, live versions and a making of documentary (following a similar format to the DM DVD) Also, I saw recently that Warner Music Group have just started to offer music from their labels as audiophile quality 24-bit downloads: www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=warnerGiven that Warners has the rights to distribute Oasis in North America, it's possible that they might offer high-quality Oasis remasters via HD Tracks at some point. |
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Post by adam78 on Aug 3, 2011 2:53:00 GMT -5
If you get a chance to listen to the instrumental version of The Masterplan it has a very wide dynamic range, allowing the music to soar in a way that it can't on the brickwalled CD single & album. The 09 vinyl captures more of that contrast in the sound, thanks to it being much less compressed. i have the instrumentals from the promo cd. mp3 only but yes, totally agree. the masterplan sounds amazing. i also think slide away sounds fantastic. everything has room to breath and yet still sounds powerful. slide away during the chorus is pretty majestic to me. people spend all this time mixing left to right, and getting each instrument to sit in the mix to get the right seperation, then screw it all up by killing all that space by mastering it into one big noise. i've listened to the new be here now so many times in the last few days and i'm still hearing parts i didn't know existed before. it just sounds amazing now. and those intrumentals were great for the same reason...... ...although, i firmly believe cigs and alcohol came alive with over compression. without it, it just wouldn't be a big as it is. the instrumental sounds very weedy and more of a t-rex rip off than ever. |
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Post by davidjay on Aug 3, 2011 14:40:38 GMT -5
If you get a chance to listen to the instrumental version of The Masterplan it has a very wide dynamic range, allowing the music to soar in a way that it can't on the brickwalled CD single & album. The 09 vinyl captures more of that contrast in the sound, thanks to it being much less compressed. i have the instrumentals from the promo cd. mp3 only but yes, totally agree. the masterplan sounds amazing. i also think slide away sounds fantastic. everything has room to breath and yet still sounds powerful. slide away during the chorus is pretty majestic to me. people spend all this time mixing left to right, and getting each instrument to sit in the mix to get the right seperation, then screw it all up by killing all that space by mastering it into one big noise. i've listened to the new be here now so many times in the last few days and i'm still hearing parts i didn't know existed before. it just sounds amazing now. and those intrumentals were great for the same reason...... ...although, i firmly believe cigs and alcohol came alive with over compression. without it, it just wouldn't be a big as it is. the instrumental sounds very weedy and more of a t-rex rip off than ever. Yes, the Slide Away instrumental sounds excellent. You can hear the different guitar parts more clearly and the extended solo at the end is sublime. I think that this is the only recording from the Dave Batchelor sessions to make it to the finished album (albeit remixed by Owen Morris). Here's a YouTube upload of it, in case anyone's not heard it: I think the instrumental of Cigarettes and Alcohol could be from those sessions too. I agree that it's a bit thin and bass-shy compared to the raw energy of the album mix. It could be that, with that instrumental at least, we're hearing some of the problems that prompted the band to scrap the Batchelor/Monnow Valley version and re-record the album at Sawmills Studios, with Noel and Mark Coyle co-producing. There are some quotes in the DM DVD documentary and Paolo Hewitt's first book on the band explaining that Batchelor went for a much cleaner, drier sound than heard on the finished album -and that Bonehead and others complained that his mixes didn't capture the band's live sound. Despite some of the scathing comments made about it by the band, I'd love to hear that version, though... Slide Away sounds great judging from the backing, and it'd be good to hear the version of Up in the Sky with backwards guitars that's meant to be on there. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Oct 6, 2019 20:18:32 GMT -5
best album EVAH
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Post by pliolite on Oct 16, 2019 12:45:20 GMT -5
I'm listening to a vinyl rip of BHN right now and it's still distorted as hell, a la the original CD master. Especially the likes of Magic Pie and It's Gettin Better Man. So whatever vinyl people earlier in this thread had been listening to...I just don't know. Cause this clearly isn't the same thing!
Does anyone have the new remastered vinyl? What does that sound like??
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