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Post by Headmaster on Mar 19, 2011 22:08:32 GMT -5
Look at this NME blog talking about best ever songs rejected from albums, many people cited a bunch of Oasis songs like LAMB, Acquiesce, The Masterplan, Stay Young e many many others. www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=10&p=7597&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1Sometimes I cringe knowing that Oasis might have been bigger and better if Noel knew how to manage his songs, mainly at the 90's Listen to this and think how it not has ended on SOTSOG, it's unbelievable. But don't worry, we got I Can See A Liar instead.   Yeah, I'm a foking genious!! |
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Post by ben2011 on Mar 19, 2011 23:23:49 GMT -5
who gives a shit just buy the b sides.
ive never seen a pic with noel smiling untill now lol
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Post by gdforever on Mar 19, 2011 23:46:10 GMT -5
There are a few out there. He is never seems to smile in photos he is posing for...but there are many candid photos of him smiling and laughing.
As for the b-sides stuff...who cares?
It is all water under the bridge. He did give them to us...it unfortunately didn't benefit THEM any...but I have the music so what do I care. Oasis were big enough...it's not like they will ever be lost in obscurity...
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 19, 2011 23:58:32 GMT -5
The thing is that many casual fans don't know about these great rejected Oasis songs, this is a real shame, some of them don't even listened TM to have an idea of what they are missing.
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Post by BlueJay on Mar 20, 2011 2:18:34 GMT -5
I agree with Headmaster. Although for die-hard fans it doesn't matter. For casual listeners and the music press alike albums like Be Here Now, SOTSOG and even What's the Story? would be a lot better and make Noel even more well-known and praised as a musical god.
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 20, 2011 4:02:32 GMT -5
One of my most favourite B-sides!  Should've definitely been on an album! |
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Post by futchduck on Mar 20, 2011 6:28:41 GMT -5
maybe it was all part of his masterplan, to save the best songs for the real fans and thus keep a loyal fan-base? |
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Post by oneeye on Mar 20, 2011 6:49:06 GMT -5
Well Noel has said himself that he wished he had saved 1 or 2 b-sides for albums, but the b-sides are one of the things that made Oasis great.
No one has ever had b-sides which were as good as the album tracks like Oasis - not even The Beatles!
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Mar 20, 2011 8:49:22 GMT -5
From one of the comments: "(In My) Mind - Amazing Oasis track, heard live at Knebworth and something of a live favourite of the time, but strangely, left off Morning Glory  " What's that supposed to mean? Never heard of it. |
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Post by barnafin95 on Mar 20, 2011 10:29:06 GMT -5
Maybe a working title?
But anyway, theres plenty of bootlegs so if it really was a 'live favourite' surely it would've surfaced on one? But it does seem strange that a coupel of songs leaked from the soundchecks in 2008 yet there are none from previous years: did Noel always soundcheck new material? If so, there must surely be some other stuff from down the years...
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 20, 2011 10:31:27 GMT -5
I agree with Headmaster. Although for die-hard fans it doesn't matter. For casual listeners and the music press alike albums like Be Here Now, SOTSOG and even What's the Story? would be a lot better and make Noel even more well-known and praised as a musical god. This. |
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Post by oneeye on Mar 20, 2011 10:36:09 GMT -5
Setlist from Knebworth - there are only 3 songs in there which were b-side for Morning Glory.
Maybe your source is just getting mixed up!
1. The Swamp Song
2. Columbia
3. Acquiesce
4. Supersonic
5. Hello
6. Some Might Say
7. Roll With It
8. Slide Away
9. Morning Glory
10. Round Are Way
11. Cigarettes & Alcohol
12. Whatever
13. Cast No Shadow
14. Wonderwall
15. The Masterplan
16. Don't Look Back In Anger
17. My Big Mouth
18. It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)
19. Live Forever
ENCORE
1. Champagne Supernova
2. I Am The Walrus
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Post by gdforever on Mar 20, 2011 10:47:40 GMT -5
Don't you guys ever get bored of lamenting this?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 20, 2011 11:43:43 GMT -5
I fully understand what Headmaster is getting at. Noel's major weakness throughout his career was picking the tracklistings. No idea what he was thinking regarding songs like ICSAL, PYMWYMI, BM, FON, ABWR, TNOR, etc when he had all those fantastic b-sides at his disposal.
But at the same time, it makes Oasis even more special for us, the die hard fans - finding those hidden gems....
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 20, 2011 12:03:48 GMT -5
But at the same time, it makes Oasis even more special for us, the die hard fans - finding those hidden gems.... When I found 'Let's All Make Believe' that totally made my day! Put the song on repeat for the rest of the day! Liams voice and the arrangement is really great! |
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Post by oneeye on Mar 20, 2011 12:59:10 GMT -5
But at the same time, it makes Oasis even more special for us, the die hard fans - finding those hidden gems.... When I found 'Let's All Make Believe' that totally made my day! Put the song on repeat for the rest of the day! Liams voice and the arrangement is really great! Yeh Love when that guitar comes in with the drums |
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Post by cliffriff on Mar 20, 2011 16:57:25 GMT -5
When i bought SOTSOG though, here in America, it had Lets all make believe inside the CD case as a seperate disc. on the fron was a sticker "Includes bonus track " lets all make believe" its like noel was scrambling to get it on the disc after the fact. it is the best song from that period FOR SURE.. liams singing, everything
lil trivia: did you guys know at one point it was going to open the album?!
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Post by definitivt on Mar 20, 2011 17:12:12 GMT -5
The B-sides from the era is a big part in what makes Oasis special. No band has ever released B-sides as good as Oasis 94-96. End of.
But Be Here Now could've been absolutely massive, a classic equal to WTSMG, with The Masterplan, Rockin' Chair, Aquiesce, Talk Tonight, Half the World Away etc.
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 20, 2011 17:35:38 GMT -5
The third Oasis masterpiece was always there, but Noel didn't know how to pick the right songs. It just bugs me.  |
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Post by cliffriff on Mar 20, 2011 17:52:37 GMT -5
The third Oasis masterpiece was always there, but Noel didn't know how to pick the right songs. It just bugs me. i think he seriously thought that the hits would never stop coming. so it didnt matter that masterplan was a bside as they were coming so fast and consistant. until the bottom fell out and they were basically all gone |
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 20, 2011 19:55:49 GMT -5
lil trivia: did you guys know at one point it was going to open the album?! I sure did. And then he wrote FITB and bumped the song back on the tracklisting. And then he wrote another song and bumped the song further back again and again until its gone. And then decided to put ICSAL to even out the rocky/mellow factor. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 20:16:39 GMT -5
Fans should be greatful that they are the ones who know these songs as opposed to the entire shite world of popular music. They are treasures to me, that others don't know about.
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Post by NYR on Mar 20, 2011 20:29:43 GMT -5
who gives a shit just buy the b sides. amen, brother. +k |
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Post by BagItUp11 on Mar 21, 2011 13:05:44 GMT -5
Well Noel has said himself that he wished he had saved 1 or 2 b-sides for albums, but the b-sides are one of the things that made Oasis great. No one has ever had b-sides which were as good as the album tracks like Oasis - not even The Beatles! Yep |
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 21, 2011 14:25:20 GMT -5
I know that these great b-sides was part of their success, but wouldn't they be more successfull if these songs were on their albums instead of being b-sides??
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