No. Just no.

What, pray tell, is the criteria for a song to "crack" America?

(not flaming, genuine question)

I would take "crack" as actually charting. Probably on the Modern Rock chart or Adult Alternative in the Top 20. I would qualify that as "cracking". At least that would be cracking for a small time, beginning band.

The criteria for "cracking" changes from band to band. For Oasis it would've been getting a Top 5 or 3 hit on the Modern Rock chart or getting a Top 10 on the Hot 100. For Beady Eye, its showing up on the chart and having a respectable position, like Top 20 on the Modern Rock or Adult Alternative.

At least that would be "cracking" imo

You still need to find an audience. You can pour all the money you want into a song, but if people don't want to listen to it, then they don't want to listen to it.

I'm sure Oasis' label poured money into their single releases, but that didn't translate into Top 10's, now did it ffs. Money and promotion helps to a point, but please don't act like its the ONLY thing that counts, and you automatically get hits if you have the two. The music reflects the times, when Justin Beiber's time passes, there won't be enough money that he'll be able to give radio stations. There's a long list of artists who are big for a time and are "mainstream", but still fall off. Going by your theory, major artist would always have hits because they use large sums of money and promotion. But that doesn't happen.

I can think of a long list of flops by major artists who had those two things.

You're looking at people after they become big and then associated that the record companies paid for them to be on the radio. Blackeyed Peas are a piss poor example. They didn't have a first hit until they were lucky enough to get Justin Timberlake on their first hit single, and even on that song they didn't credit him. They didn't even show him in the video. I hate the blackeyed Peas, but their rise was legit. Believe me. I saw them bouncing around for too damn long. It wasn't until they had a hit and basically won the lottery that they got big.

You're looking after the fact.

And again, you're assuming that everything that gets played on a "mainstream" station becomes a hit. It doesn't. In the end, the people still have to like it. They still have to some what want to listen to it. That's why you make music to fit a certain audience, if was as easy as just promoting and putting something on "mainstream" radio, then everyone would do it. When the days comes that record labels don't make music for a certain audience, then what you say will be true. The record automatically admits that it can't just feed stuff down people's throat by trying to gear their music to a certain audience. And even then, there's still a good chance that it doesn't become a hit. The people have to choose to like it some what.

And for Oasis and appearances and what a record label is suppose to do: that works hand in hand. You have to be getting hits and Oasis stopped getting hits. If we apply you're theory, in 2000 they did TRL and did the late night shows, but it didn't lead to hits. You're assuming that one comes before the other, it doesn't. In the end, you have to be getting hits. When you can tell me of an unknown artist getting pushed into the VMA' without having a hit, then you'll be right, but until then, you're wrong. You have to get a hit first, before anyone is willing to invest in you. Are their groups created by lables, yes. But you're acting as if 90% of music is dominated like that. You have to be marketable, and that's decided the songs that you and the audience that you fit. You just freely admit that the record label turned their back. There's a reason for that. They weren't marketable. And I don't see BDI being considered marketable in the US. In the end it does depend on the songs and the audience in which those songs fit.

Theres no way Beady will break America with this album.. Like someone said before the album is solid at best with no breakout songs. Also by reading some reviews off off Itunes US, people dont like it..

I havent even really listen to the album since it was officially released. Four Letter gets you in the mood but everything else except a few songs like The Roller kinda are just fillers

i did admit that the music has to be decent...
you've admitted that the album is good. the point is the label has to do their job. In BDI's case, there's not much that can't be done because they're signed to an indie label. I still think they'll make a couple of tv appearances though.
Oasis could've had a handful of very good songs(post 2000) that could've been hits if they had been marketed, correct? why didn't they?
THE LABEL DIDN'T DO ITS JOB. get that in your head.
With BDI we'll never know, not because the music is bad or anything but because the label is an indie label and there's only so much they can do(this wasnt the case with Oasis).
You said yourself not everything that gets played in mainstream radio catches on, well... how the fuck do you think we'd know if BDI or latter Oasis could've had success in the mainstream if the label never even tried?
"comes down to wethre people want it" , "people have to want it"
LMAO what a load of horseshit.
Haven't you ever heard of hype? how creates the hype? the MEDIA!!! the media tells people what they should want, it's the way it works in this day and age.
If ESPN anchors say on every fucking SportsCenter that this is high school kid going to the nba is "the chosen one" and "the next big thing" that he's a "stud" , "man-child" and nicknames him "the king", people will be anxious to see who this Lebron James kid is and what the hype is all about.
sure, the player fails to make the playoffs for several years, then when he finally gets there, he can't win and finally has to leave town to join someone else's team cos he couldn't do it on his own. but it's too late, he's already KING JAMES.
did he eventually become good, even great? yes, but the point is, there was some hype behind him and he was marketed the right way.

the rest of the world has no problem enjoying Oasis & Beady Eye music why is that? because they play their songs on the god damn radio! Not everything has to be an anthemic Wonderwall or Champagne Supernova it just has to be catchy well hell i think DGSS is pretty god damn catchy. I've played some of the album to my fellow employees they think it's pretty good & they don't even know who BDI even are.

I can hear the first verse being played at the end of those awful American TV shows, when something sad has happened.

lgfaver,

BDI is appealing to the people that I thought it would, Oasis fans like us!! We may think its good but people outside our circle most likely don't.. I let a few people that semi like Oasis listen to this album and they thought it was just ok but something they probvaly wouldnt listen to much.

I'am trying to take an unbiased approach. I'am not saying the album is bad but it doesnt have the songs to capture an audience outside the Oasis fanbase

Can't speak for America, but Oasis are/were huge here in Canada. I don't think Beady Eye will reach the same level of success with DGSS. But The Roller is getting a lot of airplay on Toronto radio stations and their June concert is sold out.

This thread is funny.