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May 26, 2015 21:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on May 26, 2015 21:37:26 GMT -5
Congratulations to James Jones on making it to five straight finals!
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May 26, 2015 22:59:13 GMT -5
Post by Cast on May 26, 2015 22:59:13 GMT -5
Props to Lebron for making 5 straight finals, that's an incredible achievement one that has no rival in the modern era. Lebron might not have the most storied or decorated career in terms of chips. I don't think he'll catch Jordan, but he's all around brilliance for these past five years has been amazing to watch. People were kinda wondering if Lebron was slipping. Seemed like he was operating around 90% for most of the season, but its pretty obvious he's still the best player in the world. The fact that he's taken this broken down Cavs team that plays too much iso ball and plays like a team from the 80's to a chip is kinda of insane. Yeah the East is weak, but I really thought the Bulls could have taken them down.
Doubt they beat GS but it's gonna be a hell of a series.
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May 27, 2015 2:11:18 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 27, 2015 2:11:18 GMT -5
I think pride alone will will Lébron to beat the Warriors and Steph Curry.
God bless.
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May 27, 2015 2:43:49 GMT -5
Post by sgtpeppr on May 27, 2015 2:43:49 GMT -5
lebron and pride in the same sentence? interesting...
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May 27, 2015 2:57:48 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 27, 2015 2:57:48 GMT -5
lebron and pride in the same sentence? interesting... Pride as in Lébron's the real MVP and how he turned it up against the Warriors in the regular season. And, pride in the sense the Warriors are young and need to earn it. It's like not letting anyone younger than you beat your ass, not gonna happen. If it means deflating basketballs, so be it. God bless. |
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May 27, 2015 6:44:52 GMT -5
Post by sgtpeppr on May 27, 2015 6:44:52 GMT -5
lebron and pride in the same sentence? interesting... Pride as in Lébron's the real MVP and how he turned it up against the Warriors in the regular season. And, pride in the sense the Warriors are young and need to earn it. It's like not letting anyone younger than you beat your ass, not gonna happen. If it means deflating basketballs, so be it. God bless. yeah, i get it. i just dont associate any of it with lebron...its never come across to me that thats something that can drive him. |
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May 27, 2015 15:14:23 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 27, 2015 15:14:23 GMT -5
Everyone's picking the Warriors to beat the Cavs, I just don't see it that way, the Cavs are good, I don't care that the East is weak. It's just me and you picking the Cavs, defmaybe00. Grazie. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 27, 2015 15:34:47 GMT -5
Did I ever say I'm picking the Cavs or...'cause I am actually,or at least I fucking hope they win,I can't stand the Warriors I'm not a big fan of the Cavs either,although I even had LeBron's shirt when I was younger,but I like some of the guys on their team: Kyrie is great and Mozgov is an underrated player in his position...oh,and Kevin love is probably the hottest player in the NBA  |
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 27, 2015 15:41:07 GMT -5
Did I ever say I'm picking the Cavs or...'cause I am actually,or at least I fucking hope they win,I can't stand the Warriors I'm not a big fan of the Cavs either,although I even had LeBron's shirt when I was younger,but I like some of the guys on their team: Kyrie is great and Mozgov is an underrated player in his position...oh,and Kevin love is probably the hottest player in the NBA Who's Kevin Love? God bless. |
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May 27, 2015 16:11:40 GMT -5
Post by sgtpeppr on May 27, 2015 16:11:40 GMT -5
cavs have a real shot...
i think kyrie, k.love & lebron is actually a better balanced trio than wade, bosh & lebron.
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May 27, 2015 22:48:13 GMT -5
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Post by glider on May 27, 2015 22:48:13 GMT -5
Rockets fans after tonight.  |
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May 27, 2015 23:38:33 GMT -5
Post by Cast on May 27, 2015 23:38:33 GMT -5
That lil B curse is real. Harden was terrible. 13 t/o are you kidding me?! Only got off like 10 or so shots. Pretty bad. Still the Rockets were down 2 starters and fought it a way that I didn't think they could. They'll be back next year with a couple of adjustments.
Have to give props to Harrison Barnes tonight. Dude had an extremely lackluster career at UNC, and he doesn't really have a natural feel for the game as a basketball player, but he is developing nicely. His handle and he's movements are becoming a lot less jerky. One of the best games I've seen from him. He'll continue to grow, he could yet become something special.
I think this Cavs/Warriors series is gonna be fantastic. It will go at least 6. If Lebron can beat this Warriors team, which is a top 10 team of all time, statistically in the top 5, that would be incredible. I just don't see how the Cavs can beat a team that has lost 3 home games the ENTIRE season. They will at least have to get 1 and most likely they'll have to win two in GS if they are gonna have any chance.
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May 28, 2015 5:28:46 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on May 28, 2015 5:28:46 GMT -5
He had to leave the first time. If he didn't they would not be where they are today. All those first round picks from losing got them Kyrie and Thompson and the assets to trade for Love. The team never showed him they could make the right moves in FA for him in the past and now players will want to play in CLE because they know they can win with him. The move definitely hurt his image but I doubt he'd be on his way to his fifth straight final if he stayed in CLE. It'll be interesting to see how his legacy will be seen when he retires. I don't see them winning against the Warriors. If he does lose he will have lost four finals appearances and won two. I always think it's better to get to the finals and lose then lose in the earlier rounds but look at Jordan's legacy. He's 6-0 in the finals. Nobody talks about the years he didn't get to the finals as negatives but they will talk about James losing all those finals as negatives. Detroit and Boston were allowed to play MJ HARD , the way the game was originally intended and as great as MIKE was they ground CHICAGO down in the mid to late 80 s when the the rules really loosened up JORDAN was a able to play his style and the results are legendary I think that hurts Lebron legacy even more , the fact he has lost in finals in the looser than ever rules where you sneeze at a superstar and your getting a foul called against you . Would love to have seen the bad boys and Boston of the 80 s be able to pound on Lebron , would be interesting to see if he could get by them ....I doubt it , if game was called like old times .. and nd i do realise MJ beat Detroit , but that was not the Pistons at there height , and the calls loosened up I think he would have been fine because he would have been playing that style his entire career. I think the bigger question would be who would guard him in that era. In that era the only one that athletic was Jordan. The players then were not as fast or athletic as they are now. It's just impossible to compare eras. |
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May 28, 2015 5:50:38 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on May 28, 2015 5:50:38 GMT -5
Props to Lebron for making 5 straight finals, that's an incredible achievement one that has no rival in the modern era. Lebron might not have the most storied or decorated career in terms of chips. I don't think he'll catch Jordan, but he's all around brilliance for these past five years has been amazing to watch. People were kinda wondering if Lebron was slipping. Seemed like he was operating around 90% for most of the season, but its pretty obvious he's still the best player in the world. The fact that he's taken this broken down Cavs team that plays too much iso ball and plays like a team from the 80's to a chip is kinda of insane. Yeah the East is weak, but I really thought the Bulls could have taken them down. Doubt they beat GS but it's gonna be a hell of a series. He's still the best player in the world but he's definitely not operating at 100% or something else is going on. He's filled out the stat sheet but this is the worst I've seen him play since the 11 finals. In the overtime win he took 37 shots to make 37 points. That's not the player I watched in Miami for four years. He's shooting 17% from three for the playoffs taking more threes than he ever did in the four years in Miami. He not the efficient player he has been for the last four years. |
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May 28, 2015 9:13:46 GMT -5
Post by Cast on May 28, 2015 9:13:46 GMT -5
Props to Lebron for making 5 straight finals, that's an incredible achievement one that has no rival in the modern era. Lebron might not have the most storied or decorated career in terms of chips. I don't think he'll catch Jordan, but he's all around brilliance for these past five years has been amazing to watch. People were kinda wondering if Lebron was slipping. Seemed like he was operating around 90% for most of the season, but its pretty obvious he's still the best player in the world. The fact that he's taken this broken down Cavs team that plays too much iso ball and plays like a team from the 80's to a chip is kinda of insane. Yeah the East is weak, but I really thought the Bulls could have taken them down. Doubt they beat GS but it's gonna be a hell of a series. He's still the best player in the world but he's definitely not operating at 100% or something else is going on. He's filled out the stat sheet but this is the worst I've seen him play since the 11 finals. In the overtime win he took 37 shots to make 37 points. That's not the player I watched in Miami for four years. He's shooting 17% from three for the playoffs taking more threes than he ever did in the four years in Miami. He not the efficient player he has been for the last four years. I'm not gonna say its the worse I've seen him in three years, because the Cavs and Lebron have been grinding out wins. Game 3 against ATL was inefficient but he was another game where lebron just took over, those 37 shots are kinda misleading. He was ice cold missing his first ten shots then he got hot. I mean its pretty clear to me that Lebron won't play like he did in Miami, for better or worse. He's gonna function as a ballhandler and top of the key pick/roll or iso player, like how he played from 03-09. The heat used him brilliantly at the 4 on the offensive end with his post up game, but its pretty clear that Lebron doesn't want to bang down there as much anymore. I could see over time Lebron becoming more efficient as Kyrie and other develop, but this year he is battling a lot in terms of just getting his team over the hill. I'm worried about his jumper for the finals, but lebron is actually an underrated shooter. He is just going through an extremely dry spell. |
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May 28, 2015 16:57:01 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 28, 2015 16:57:01 GMT -5
Today Dan Le Batard, unshockingly enough, was saying this Cavs team is the worst team Lébron's been in the Finals with - I disagree. I think this Cavs team would beat last year's Heat team simply because of Tristan Thompson's rebounding and Mozgov actually playing the center position. If those Heat teams with Lébron had a center they would've won at least three Finals and Lébron would still be there. defmaybe00, get your game face ready. I like Dan Let Barard, by the way, his show with his dad is great. #Cavsin6 |
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May 28, 2015 21:29:35 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on May 28, 2015 21:29:35 GMT -5
Today Dan Le Batard, unshockingly enough, was saying this Cavs team is the worst team Lébron's been in the Finals with - I disagree. I think this Cavs team would beat last year's Heat team simply because of Tristan Thompson's rebounding and Mozgov actually playing the center position. If those Heat teams with Lébron had a center they would've won at least three Finals and Lébron would still be there. defmaybe00, get your game face ready. I like Dan Let Barard, by the way, his show with his dad is great. #Cavsin6 Lebetard is one of the biggest lebron supporters on national radio I don't know why you think it's an unshocking position. The Heat didn't need a center. They didn't want to play with a center. Not having a true center was partly why they were so successful. Last year he shot over seventy percent in the paint this year in the fifties. Part of that is because he has big bodies in his way clogging up the paint. The Heat were always near the bottom of the league in rebounding but because they were so efficient offensively it didn't matter. They wanted to space the floor with shooters to keep the lanes open for James and Wade. No center is not why they didn't win three rings. They should have won year one and they would have if lebron played to his averages. He was so passive in that series and it cost them. Last year they ran out of gas and came across a spurs team that was clicking on all cylinders and was out for revenge. James was great in that series but the rest of the team was on fumes from all the extra games over the years. |
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Post by Cast on May 28, 2015 21:48:00 GMT -5
LeBron is at he's best when he is playing in the post ala Miami, but I can appreciate the challenge of him wanting to do something different. Lebron's evolution is pretty much nonstop even as he ages. This playoffs has been pretty rough on him and his %'s but he's winning and that's all that really matters. Plus, this is probably the best thing about Lebron he makes other people so much better. Thompson, TM, JR, Delly and Iman are all significantly better players when they are playing with Lebron, it's just such a unique trait, sort of like Magic but lately he's been gunning and carrying a team like a T-Mac, Kobe, or AI.
Can you imagine at the start of the season that a team with a 50% Kyrie, no Love, and a inefficient Lebron with a bunch of misfit, castaways, role players would make the NBA Finals? Its pretty crazy. Also amazing that the Cavs have only lost 2 games this post season. Yeah the East sucks, but Bulls and Hawks didn't show up each of those series should have been 6-7 games.
Also what do you think about the Wade/Heat disagreement reports dude?
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May 29, 2015 1:27:43 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 29, 2015 1:27:43 GMT -5
Today Dan Le Batard, unshockingly enough, was saying this Cavs team is the worst team Lébron's been in the Finals with - I disagree. I think this Cavs team would beat last year's Heat team simply because of Tristan Thompson's rebounding and Mozgov actually playing the center position. If those Heat teams with Lébron had a center they would've won at least three Finals and Lébron would still be there. defmaybe00, get your game face ready. I like Dan Let Barard, by the way, his show with his dad is great. #Cavsin6 Lebetard is one of the biggest lebron supporters on national radio I don't know why you think it's an unshocking position. The Heat didn't need a center. They didn't want to play with a center. Not having a true center was partly why they were so successful. Last year he shot over seventy percent in the paint this year in the fifties. Part of that is because he has big bodies in his way clogging up the paint. The Heat were always near the bottom of the league in rebounding but because they were so efficient offensively it didn't matter. They wanted to space the floor with shooters to keep the lanes open for James and Wade. No center is not why they didn't win three rings. They should have won year one and they would have if lebron played to his averages. He was so passive in that series and it cost them. Last year they ran out of gas and came across a spurs team that was clicking on all cylinders and was out for revenge. James was great in that series but the rest of the team was on fumes from all the extra games over the years. I think they would've been better served with a true center. Oh well... God bless. |
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Post by Cast on May 29, 2015 22:21:17 GMT -5
I think you're right in thinking that this Cavs team would beat last year's heat team Let It Bleed. Both teams are/were beat up but this cavs team has a grind to them that would give them the edge. |
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May 30, 2015 9:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on May 30, 2015 9:16:52 GMT -5
Also what do you think about the Wade/Heat disagreement reports dude? Fuck him. Let him go. He's washed up anyways.  Jk Wade needs to be realistic. He's not getting max money but the Heat owe him. He's never been the highest paid player on his team. Arguably the third best shooting guard of all time and the face of the franchise has never garnered the highest salary on his team. He orchestrated the four greatest years in the teams history making the team millions upon millions of dollars. He took a pay cut to bring James and Bosh in. Opted out of a guaranteed forty million dollar contract to allow the team to resign James and will be paid less than Goran Dragic next year. If they don't resign him they'll lose James and Wade in consecutive years and will show potential future free agents they are not a franchise to sign with. |
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May 30, 2015 9:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on May 30, 2015 9:26:55 GMT -5
I think you're right in thinking that this Cavs team would beat last year's heat team Let It Bleed. Both teams are/were beat up but this cavs team has a grind to them that would give them the edge. Let's see how they do in the finals. Last year's lebron was way better in the playoffs than this year's lebron. The rest of the team wasn't great. If Irving is healthy I'd probably begrudgingly agree with you. |
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May 31, 2015 18:30:39 GMT -5
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 31, 2015 18:30:39 GMT -5
By the time the Finals start, Kevin Love will be healthy enough to play.
God bless.
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May 31, 2015 18:33:34 GMT -5
Post by glider on May 31, 2015 18:33:34 GMT -5
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May 31, 2015 18:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 31, 2015 18:48:22 GMT -5
Warriors in 4... OK, what the hell's going on around here!? @wadfalkirk says the Rolling Stones have no classic albums, and now this?  Thanks. |
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