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Post by spaneli on Mar 7, 2011 19:38:39 GMT -5
Just saw an update of the counting for this week's Billboard 200. 54.02% IS IN And this is how it stands.
CHART DATE: 03/07/2011
LAST UPDATE: 03/07/2011 11:48:41
NOW IN: 54.02%
LW TW artist / album label power index
1 1 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 125,455
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-- 2 MARSHA AMBROSIUS J RECORDS/RMG 41,070
LATE NIGHTS & EARLY MORNINGS
4 3 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 37 CAPITOL/EMI 36,443
VARIOUS ARTISTS
2 4 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 36,096
NEVER SAY NEVER - THE REMIXES
10 5 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 18,185
MY KINDA PARTY
5 6 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 17,327
MY WORLD 2.0
6 7 BRUNO MARS NEW ELEKTRA 16,820
DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS
8 8 NICKI MINAJ YM/CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 15,267
PINK FRIDAY
11 9 P!NK LAFACE/JLG 15,048
GREATEST HITS SO FAR
7 10 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 14,459
LOUD
-- 11 AARON LEWIS STROUDAVARIOUS 14,177
TOWN LINE
12 12 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 12,432
NEED YOU NOW
-- 13 BURLESQUE RCA/RMG 12,429
SOUNDTRACK
9 14 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 12,429
RECOVERY
3 15 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 12,415
SIGH NO MORE
20 16 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 11,093
ACOUSTIC
13 17 KATY PERRY CAPITOL/EMI 10,939
TEENAGE DREAM
14 18 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 10,629
SPEAK NOW
29 19 THOMPSON SQUARE STONEY CREEK/BROKEN BOW 10,182
THOMPSON SQUARE
-- 20 DROPKICK MURPHYS DROPKICK MURPHY/ILG 10,058
GOING OUT IN STYLE
24 21 KID ROCK ATLANTIC 9,513
BORN FREE
19 22 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 9,020
YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE
30 23 R. KELLY JIVE/JLG 7,522
LOVE LETTER
28 24 RASCAL FLATTS BIG MACHINE 7,270
NOTHING LIKE THIS
15 25 2011 GRAMMY NOMINEES JIVE/JLG 6,984
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 26 THE BAND PERRY UNIV REPUBLIC NASHVILLE 6,867
THE BAND PERRY
26 27 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 6,819
KIDZ BOP 19
44 28 WOW GOSPEL 2011 VERITY/JLG 6,469
VARIOUS ARTISTS
38 29 JAMIE FOXX J RECORDS/RMG 6,157
BEST NIGHT OF MY LIFE
43 30 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 6,148
PASSION PAIN & PLEASURE
-- 31 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 6,122
INCREDIBLE MACHINE
31 32 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 5,866
BEGINNING
45 33 KENNY CHESNEY BNA 5,784
HEMINGWAY'S WHISKEY
25 34 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 5,493
THE FAME
42 35 MIRANDA LAMBERT COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 5,431
REVOLUTION
23 36 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 5,060
MY WORLD
48 37 BON JOVI ISLAND/IDJMG 4,828
GREATEST HITS
17 38 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/IDJMG 4,821
MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED...
49 39 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 4,774
CANNIBAL
32 40 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 4,604
I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING
-- 41 LUCINDA WILLIAMS LOST HIGHWAY 4,532
BLESSED
41 42 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 4,502
GLEE: THE MUSIC, VOL. 4
35 43 BIG TIME RUSH COLUMBIA 4,415
BTR
-- 44 TRAIN COLUMBIA 4,278
SAVE ME SAN FRANCISCO
40 45 CEE LO GREEN NEW ELEKTRA 4,201
LADY KILLER
34 46 T.I. GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 4,028
NO MERCY
18 47 FLORENCE & THE MACHINE UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 3,921
LUNGS
21 48 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 3,336
BROTHERS
50 49 LINKIN PARK WARNER BROS. 2,512
A THOUSAND SUNS
-- 50 BEADY EYE BEADY EYE/DANGERBIRD 2,457
DIFFERENT GEAR, STILL SPEEDING
Still a little under 50% left to be counted, but it looks like this is gonna just barely make it. They were projected to sell between 12-15k. Looks like they're gonna come waaaaaaay under that, unless part of that 46% that's left is a good 10,000 of BDI's which hasn't been counted (which has happened before because it depends on where the 54% came from).
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Post by lastfanstanding on Mar 7, 2011 19:45:34 GMT -5
Why does anyone care? The band doesnt.They have plenty of money. They are playing small venues. It only matters if the music is good.Not if they chart good.People take it personally these days for some reason.BDI or OASIS or fill in the blank will never beat out the "Bieber" like acts. doesnt mean they(Bieber) are better than quality music acts.Kids love Bieber so what.When they get older they will like bands who won't chart in the top 20.
I wise man once said "it only matters if its real.."
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Post by gdforever on Mar 7, 2011 19:47:33 GMT -5
Yikes...
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Post by spaneli on Mar 7, 2011 19:51:01 GMT -5
Why does anyone care? The band doesnt.They have plenty of money. They are playing small venues. It only matters if the music is good.Not if they chart good.People take it personally these days for some reason.BDI or OASIS or fill in the blank will never beat out the "Bieber" like acts. doesnt mean they are better than quality acts. I wise man once said "it only matters if its real.." Do I care about the charts personally? Not really. But I do like to see when the band succeeds. And if it made top 20, it probably would've only been there for a week, but I would been happy that the band had that week. In the end the charts don't matter. If you like then like it, and that is all that should matter. But even with that, it does sicken me when I see the band that low on the charts.  |
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Post by supersonic8587 on Mar 7, 2011 20:10:22 GMT -5
It sickens that society buys enough Kid Rock albums to put him at 21 and Beady Eye are at 50.
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Post by jlzoasis on Mar 7, 2011 20:17:03 GMT -5
Clarify for me, are these just phyiscal sales, or digital combined?
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Post by gdforever on Mar 7, 2011 20:17:51 GMT -5
And for us N. American fans that few albums sold means limited touring potential, which means traveling hours for a show. I'm guessing the nearest show to me will be at least a 3 hour flight away and 8-10 hours driving.
It's all well and good for the Europeans or people in the UK where it is more condensed buy Western Canada is damn big...and the chances of them bothering to visit Alberta, let alone Calgary, with sales like this is pretty slim.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 7, 2011 20:30:12 GMT -5
Clarify for me, are these just phyiscal sales, or digital combined? Its both. They do count both, but like I said, there might be some lag time on some of the sales. The close to official one will prob be released tomorrow. The close to official one will have both digital and physical on them. Itunes is notorious for being a bit late with their numbers. So the overall numbers should take a good jump. I doubt if they up at #50, but I also doubt if they rise past #30. |
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Post by shoofee on Mar 7, 2011 20:32:54 GMT -5
Get over it. Chart sales mean diddley fucking squat. Good music rarely charts these days. Do you really put that much stock into the commercial aspect of music?
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Post by spaneli on Mar 7, 2011 20:46:33 GMT -5
Get over it. Chart sales mean diddley fucking squat. Good music rarely charts these days. Do you really put that much stock into the commercial aspect of music? Apparently you didnt read the "the charts don't matter to me personally part" |
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Post by shoofee on Mar 7, 2011 21:19:11 GMT -5
Yet you post a thread entitled "Kinda sickened..." and its all about the charts.
You do care or you'd not have bothered. You dont get sickened by shit you dont care about.
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 7, 2011 21:21:14 GMT -5
Thanks for finding the info anyhow Spaneli.
I don't know how sickened I might feel if Beady Eye fit snugly in there with the 4 Justin Bieber albums at the top of the charts....
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Post by spaneli on Mar 7, 2011 21:22:12 GMT -5
Yet you post a thread entitled "Kinda sickened..." and its all about the charts. You do care or you'd not have bothered. You dont get sickened by shit you dont care about. "Do I care about the charts personally? Not really. But I do like to see when the band succeeds. And if it made top 20, it probably would've only been there for a week, but I would been happy that the band had that week. In the end the charts don't matter. If you like then like it, and that is all that should matter. But even with that, it does sicken me when I see the band that low on the charts." This was also in this thread. If you took the time to read, you might have found it. I think you're taking the word "sickened" a bit too literally. I would just have liked for the band to have a small bit of commercial success, that doesn't mean it hampers what I think of the album or my appreciation. You can keep those 2 things seperate. You can hope the band does well on the charts, but still not really care about the charts. They aren't mutually exclusive. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 7, 2011 22:15:59 GMT -5
i remember when DOYS came out, there was a website reporting(day to day) the sales numbers and up to the last minute the album was @ #15 or some shit like that, then when they finally released the official numbers, Oasis had jumped 10 spots and it charted @ #5.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 7, 2011 22:44:51 GMT -5
i remember when DOYS came out, there was a website reporting(day to day) the sales numbers and up to the last minute the album was @ #15 or some shit like that, then when they finally released the official numbers, Oasis had jumped 10 spots and it charted @ #5. Great example. Thanxs. I thought, that happened during the DOYS dales, but I didn't want to put it down without knowing for sure. Like I said, its happened before. And when you get between 20-50, its a tightly packed bunch. Still don't see them getting to that top 20, nor the top 30, but I could (probably) be wrong about the top 30. |
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Post by Rifles on Mar 7, 2011 22:55:34 GMT -5
We need to find something new to talk about. Ever since Oasis dropped out of the mainstream we all talk about how sad the music scene is. It's been this way for a long time and doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon. I hope as much as everyone else that guitar driven music returns to the mainstream, but this subject is surely played out beyond belief now, no?
The funny thing is, we all root for our guys to score big on the charts, but you know as well as I do, if that shit happened, this place and more importantly, the gigs would be overrun with a bunch of little shit-heads riding the new fad. Then we'd complain about how much better it was when they were unknown.
I find it slightly interesting that Beady Eye have sold so little though. Oasis get no publicity in the US but still managed over 100,000 first week sales the last couple albums. I would assume a majority of those are the hardcore fan base, but where are they now, and why aren't they supporting Beady Eye? Is it because it's just not Oasis? Is it the music?
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Post by shoofee on Mar 7, 2011 23:06:45 GMT -5
Yet you post a thread entitled "Kinda sickened..." and its all about the charts. You do care or you'd not have bothered. You dont get sickened by shit you dont care about. "Do I care about the charts personally? Not really. But I do like to see when the band succeeds. And if it made top 20, it probably would've only been there for a week, but I would been happy that the band had that week. In the end the charts don't matter. If you like then like it, and that is all that should matter. But even with that, it does sicken me when I see the band that low on the charts." This was also in this thread. If you took the time to read, you might have found it. I think you're taking the word "sickened" a bit too literally. I would just have liked for the band to have a small bit of commercial success, that doesn't mean it hampers what I think of the album or my appreciation. You can keep those 2 things seperate. You can hope the band does well on the charts, but still not really care about the charts. They aren't mutually exclusive. Asking this completely seriously and not intending to be snarky: What does the band's chart success do for you? Meaning what do you get out of a multimillionaire making more money? You say you want to see them do well, why? Are you worried about them not making more music or touring? The only thing the charts are about is money. The only immediate impact on us as fans is the possibility of shows in markets that may not get one, and an increased demand for access in markets they're already set to visit, possibly pushing us out so some casual can go to the show and talk through the whole thing or texting his/her friends that they're at a show the whole time. However, even if shows were the only reason, they're going to come to the states regardless and unless it was a huge smash it wouldnt affect their itinerary in a major way. Yea, they may play a show in Grand Rapids or Tim-buk-fucking-tu that they'd not have played otherwise, but if they come in at 31 or 22 it makes no fucking difference, especially considering the state of the industry today. It'd have to be #1 for weeks for it to have a broad affect on us. Unless you still care about commercial radio, so you may hear Bring The Light or The Roller 10 times a day competing with Nickelback and Usher for airplay. I never understood why fans of bands take the charts into any consideration whatsoever. If this was a legitimate new band with no preset fanbase, Id see a point. This is the ashes of Oasis that have an already established almost 2 decades been there fanbase. The plethora of Oasis chart examination threads, while completely fucking off analysis wise 99% of the time was some of the most mindnumbing shit ever. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 7, 2011 23:13:33 GMT -5
100k on the first week??
nah man, you're sadly mistaken.
DOYS sold just over 50k copies, the week after that, the album was nowhere to be found on the Billboard 200
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Post by shoofee on Mar 7, 2011 23:17:05 GMT -5
We need to find something new to talk about. Ever since Oasis dropped out of the mainstream we all talk about how sad the music scene is. It's been this way for a long time and doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon. I hope as much as everyone else that guitar driven music returns to the mainstream, but this subject is surely played out beyond belief now, no? The funny thing is, we all root for our guys to score big on the charts, but you know as well as I do, if that shit happened, this place and more importantly, the gigs would be overrun with a bunch of little shit-heads riding the new fad. Then we'd complain about how much better it was when they were unknown. I find it slightly interesting that Beady Eye have sold so little though. Oasis get no publicity in the US but still managed over 100,000 first week sales the last couple albums. I would assume a majority of those are the hardcore fan base, but where are they now, and why aren't they supporting Beady Eye? Is it because it's just not Oasis? Is it the music? Oasis has NEVER sold 100,000 in a week in the US, except for possibly BHN. DOYS sold 53,000 its first week out of the gates in the US and then plummeted like a rock and the previous three didnt even do that much its first week. Thing is. Music is not sad. Commercially its a fucking joke, but there is great music being released every year. Until people are willing to dig deeper, broaden their horizons, and not keep feeding into the corporate schlock that the majority of major labels feed us, you're going to think music is in a bad place. Id think that too if I couldnt get past the Billboard top fucking 40. |
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Post by Rifles on Mar 7, 2011 23:51:57 GMT -5
I stand corrected apparently. Not sure why I thought they sold over 100,000? That puts things in a little better perspective I suppose.
I agree with you sameole, I don't think music in general is sad. I think everyone hopes rock music will make a comeback because that means more bands that play music we like will get signed and be heard. As it stands now you have to dig to find the good stuff. It would be nice to see some real guitar bands get some recognition.
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Post by deasy on Mar 8, 2011 4:29:25 GMT -5
Just because it says 54% doesn't mean 54% of it's sales have been counted  I wish people would actually have some knowledge about these things before posting  It just means 54% of retailers have sent data. That 54% could be the tiny shops that sell 3 albums a week for all we know  |
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Post by start at the end on Mar 8, 2011 8:15:40 GMT -5
Over 350 million people living in the US.
2,500 sales of DGSS...5,000...whatever.
Sounds about right to me. I could sell more of me on an acoustic out of the back of a van in downtown Chicago.
beyond pathetic.
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Post by jlzoasis on Mar 8, 2011 8:44:45 GMT -5
[quote author=rifles board=factsandfictionbe thread=65475 post=835666 time=1299556534 Oasis has NEVER sold 100,000 in a week in the US, except for possibly BHN. DOYS sold 53,000 its first week out of the gates in the US and then plummeted like a rock and the previous three didnt even do that much its first week. . See Oasis has always been a disappointment in the US. Music sucks here..its simple... Anyways DM debuted at 58 on the charts and went on to sell 1 million copies...so who knows. |
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Post by spaneli on Mar 8, 2011 9:52:57 GMT -5
Just because it says 54% doesn't mean 54% of it's sales have been counted I wish people would actually have some knowledge about these things before posting It just means 54% of retailers have sent data. That 54% could be the tiny shops that sell 3 albums a week for all we know I know. I think I said that 46% is a big chunk and it all depends on where they've counted. Like I said, there are large record stores which are notorious for late sales number. In terms of lateness in the digital (cough cough Itunes). But yeah you're right. I should've put that more clearly in my post. I assumed that most people knew it was 54% of shops I was talking about, and not 54% of total sales. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 8, 2011 10:03:39 GMT -5
We need a thread that discusses WHY the music scene has pushed out guitar rock in the last decade or so, and why it's not returning any time soon.
The fact that it took me ages to find The Hold Steady is a crime, and I'm sure there's other top rock bands kicking around that would have been played 10 years ago, but are not given the chance now because of the Lady Gaga's and Justin Bieber's of the industry.
I would like an explanation to why this is the case. What led to the downfall, and why no resurrection? It's not for lacking guitar bands, that's for sure.
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