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Post by revol on Feb 22, 2011 13:07:21 GMT -5
...is that (because of his lack of talent laziness) he seems to be absolutely unable to write a song with a proper chorus. Now, I'm fully aware that a song structure is not a fixed formula, but that's not the case. Most of his songs are built around a vague idea and never fully developed to a point where you can say that he bloody nailed it. There's almost always something missing...
He tends to use his "la-la-la's" as a prosthetic of a chorus (Soldier On, TMS) or hide the weakness of the tune behind tons of psychedelic production (TMS is not great, because Liam wrote a kick-ass melody, it's great because of Lillywhite's production.)
"Wigwam" is the best example of Liam's pattern - 3 unfinished bits merged together by a skillful producer. However finely sewed up, it's still a Frankenstein of a song.
And don't get me wrong mates, listening to DGSS still gives me a fu*kton of pleasure. And also my 3 month old kid's second name is...Liam.
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Post by leongti on Feb 22, 2011 13:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 22, 2011 13:30:43 GMT -5
I guess you would have preferred his son's name to have been Noel? ;D |
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Post by putthisin ® on Feb 22, 2011 13:31:19 GMT -5
I agree. But I would argue that he sometimes comes up with a fantastic spot on chorus like I'm Outta Time.
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Post by revol on Feb 22, 2011 13:40:33 GMT -5
I agree. But I would argue that he sometimes comes up with a fantastic spot on chorus like I'm Outta Time. And according to Liam it took only nine years to finish the song  |
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Post by thuperthonic on Feb 22, 2011 13:52:56 GMT -5
For Anyone & Love Like A Bomb have great choruses as well. And while Guess God Thinks I'm Abel doesn't have a "proper chorus" as you lot like to say, it's a great song.
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Post by beadyeyeunofficial on Feb 22, 2011 13:53:19 GMT -5
There are no problems with Liam's songwriting. You just have problems with your mental capacity.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Feb 22, 2011 13:58:46 GMT -5
troll alert
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Feb 22, 2011 14:02:08 GMT -5
It's an interesting point, cos' we're all used to Noel's style which have heavy choruses.... I don't see it as a problem, it's his style and it's not a rule, since a lot his songs does have choruses indeed. And I don't consider For Anyone one of them. By the way I think that song is lame.
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Post by revol on Feb 22, 2011 14:07:48 GMT -5
There are no problems with Liam's songwriting. You just have problems with your mental capacity. Is this lad always like this? |
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Post by beadyeyeunofficial on Feb 22, 2011 14:09:15 GMT -5
There are no problems with Liam's songwriting. You just have problems with your mental capacity. Is this lad always like this? BAN THIS FUCK! |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 22, 2011 14:09:56 GMT -5
To the la la la bits.
I think the reason that that is is that, though Liam can play a guitar, his primary instrument is his voice. If Noel were writing a tune and he needed an extra something during a bit of a song he'd put in a guitar line because @ the end of the day he is primarily a guitartist. If Liam needs to add a little something he'll use his voice...and just singing nonsence like shalala or lalala for something to say because he can't come up with actual words to fit.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 22, 2011 14:14:02 GMT -5
For Anyone & Love Like A Bomb have great choruses as well. And while Guess God Thinks I'm Abel doesn't have a "proper chorus" as you lot like to say, it's a great song. For Anyone is just a chorus and Love Like a Bomb is co credited to Gem, so he probably wrote it. Doesnt solve the issue raised in this topic and i kinda agree. Liam's songs are underdevelopped. Sometimes it works (on HC, on DOYS), sometimes it dont. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2011 14:31:10 GMT -5
There are no problems with Liam's songwriting. You just have problems with your mental capacity. Is this lad always like this? Yes. |
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Post by revol on Feb 22, 2011 14:35:44 GMT -5
Is this lad always like this? BAN THIS FUCK! Over 630 posts of experience in being a cock and that's all you've got? |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 22, 2011 14:52:42 GMT -5
IOT has a nice chorus.
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Post by mad4it87 on Feb 22, 2011 17:26:02 GMT -5
I agree. But I would argue that he sometimes comes up with a fantastic spot on chorus like I'm Outta Time. yeah, and when he managed that, he then couldnt be arsed to write a second verse for it. |
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Post by NYR on Feb 22, 2011 18:08:34 GMT -5
Over 630 posts of experience in being a cock and that's all you've got? pretty much. |
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Post by thedon on Feb 22, 2011 18:22:59 GMT -5
I'm sure Noel writes songs like that all the time, it's just that he doesn't release them like Liam does.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Feb 22, 2011 18:46:28 GMT -5
Liam isn't a songwriter, plain and simple. He might make good attempts at being one, but at the end of the day his songs are nothing more than jingles. Liam's song writing process is basically him just playing a couple of chords and maybe making up a line or two, and then just basing the whole song around that. And really, anybody who has a good imagination can write a song like that. Songwriting is all about dedication, and that's something Liam obviously doesn't have.
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Post by thedon on Feb 23, 2011 8:48:37 GMT -5
I forgot to say, I agree entirely with the opening post. He does strike gold sometimes though. Songbird is a genuine classic.
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Post by face on Feb 23, 2011 10:42:01 GMT -5
has he actually ever written a chorus? the closest he's come are just simple refrains.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 23, 2011 12:18:10 GMT -5
has he actually ever written a chorus? the closest he's come are just simple refrains. Sure, he has the songs like Songbird which just have the refrain, but I'm Outta Time has a chorus, as does Boy With The Blues. |
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